Yep. People believe the most amazing shit.
Or drinking the blood of Christ. Sure it's a symbol... sounds more like vampirism to me.
@beldath Gives meaning to the statement "Eat me".
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Yeah, well... No. I guess that's fine if you believe that. I feel it was used to scare people, especially the kids. Like that believe or burn thing. Belief systems based on threats just don't make sense to me. Why does God need anything?
ManySimms: The cross is forgiveness and reconciliation, that brings God and man together, as well a man and man together. Nothing there that is to scare anybody. And the burning in hell for all eternity, that simply is not in the bible. People read the texts, and think the burning forever means will burn through all eternity. What it means, is will burn forever, in the sense, that if you burn a match, it burns forever. It is gone, as in no more. The same will be for people who chose evil. Gone forever, not tormented forever. A merciful God, which Jesus is, would never have people burn through all eternity.
Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Manny: Yes, Matthew 25:46, says eternal punishment. Just as when someone who is a serial killers is executed, it's permanent. Done. Over. They will not be back to murder again. This does not mean they will be executed every day for eternity. It means the punishment is eternal, as in there is no changing it.
Well, that's your take. I'll go with the accepted take.a : having infinite duration : everlasting eternal damnationb : of or relating to eternityc : characterized by abiding fellowship with God good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life? — Mark 10:17 (Revised Standard Version)Sorry man but I have enough problems with Christians picking and choosing. Making up definitions? No. No more from me to you here as you'ce strayed from the theme of the thread. Good luck.http://kaliemkinzo.com Research!
Manny: You said you will go with the accepted take. It's not a matter of the 'accepted take', but of what the bible actually says. The bible also says the wicked will be stubble, as in burned stubble, as in burned up. And it again, has nothing to do with the 'accepted take'. Why would you want to go with the 'accepted take', if it's not actually what the bible says? And the wicked burned up, is a lot more in line with the loving God in the bible, than burning on and on through all eternity. Any why would you characterize it as 'picking and choosing'? It's simply what the bible says.
You never answered my question: Why does God need anything? As for the Bible, please explain this rather than stating standard answers. Noah.
I had no problem with the fish symbol but a sculpture of a corpse on an instrument of ultimate torture just doesn't make sense. Imagine how aliens feel about that. I'm sure when kids are first exposed to it they can't help but feel that love, right? Really now...
Sure it does. This instrument if death is how Christ conquered the power of sin and eternal death over us. St. Paul tells us that "we preach Christ crucified...". That being then, would it not be appropriate to revere this symbol upon which we were redeemed?
Appropriate? No. I was raised Catholic so I understand the supposed symbolism. I don't buy it. It's a tortured corpse.
Of the Son of God.Here. Here are a couple of presentations that might help clear things up...https://youtu.be/v1yAvrVoYzohttps://youtu.be/6RpOTjfNCbQ
Sorry, but it's STILL a statue of a tortured corpse. It might not bother you but try explaining it to people (like kids) seeing one for the 1st time. About the bible, the word of God, right? Please explain the Noah's ark thing.
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