So how do all of y'all talk about going to hell for eternal torture and pain?
Am I missing something
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now! So... catholic priests who got over friendly with altar boys. Heaven or Hell?
They will have asked for forgiveness
@ChrisMaster69 honestly if you’re the type to rape an innocent child, chances are you aren’t truly sorry. Plenty of false teachers out there that will play the Christian game.
What about a rapist, serial killer, the person that kills you mum, sister etc?
You happy for them to beg forgiveness and go up rather than burn in the flames of hell
@ChrisMaster69 dude who said I’m happy for any of those people? I’m answering the question that the asker has because, she wants to know how forgiveness works. If you have an issue with the topic and have several questions then I advise you to talk to a Priest who would have great and more in depth answers that you want.
A priest?
No don’t really like sucking cock, that’s the only reason a person would see a priest.
However you seem confident that forgiveness is for everyone that repents, I don’t and I think it’s people that say forgiveness is possible that perpetuate the likes of abuse in the church and other walks of life, why bother with things, just say sorry snd mean it like your soul depended on it...
@ChrisMaster69 so every Catholic Priest is a child abusing pedophile? You seem pretty confident in that statement so I assume you have the utmost knowledge on the topic. Also I already answered the askers and your question. I guess I’ll have to go more in depth for you to understand. A “priest” who molests children isn’t one to ask for forgiveness. If you use the word and name of God to do a horrific act then you are not one who fears God resulting in you not even wanting forgiveness. Someone who knows the word of God and still commits such an act is someone who does not even strive for forgiveness since they do not fear God. I never heard of a story where a Priest who molested a child said “sorry” and if he did then that’s an obvious lie if you’ve gone to an extent such as that while knowing the word of God. It seems like you have more of an issue with the Catholic Church if that’s the case then confront them about that not me. I’m not even Catholic.
Wait so you can murder someone and ask for forgiveness, then essentially get into heaven?
So in short if I want to be sure to not go to hell I just believe in jesus and I'm home free... neat...
@Virgo31 yeah I really don't know I just heard this preacher (or something) on tv and I went to change the channel but I got the part about forgive everything and I remembered a long fight with this guy who said I can't fuck my boyfriend. I didn't for a week but that turned my current life to hell...
Yea, something like that.
Although there is also a part where God will still judge you.
I don't know the specifics and stuff is contracting each other.
If you google on it or ask someone who works in the field (preacher, monk, w. e.) you'll probably find more than you will get from here.
Yeah well... I don't really... but I just got confused and I learned quite enough from this lol. But thanks again
You sound like a 13 year old wannabe atheist that just discovered Richard Dawkins. Your explanation is extremely simplistic, to say the least. At no point in the Bible does God support violence. It is also older than the Christianity, it even warns about the rise of organised religion.
Hell is also a metaphor if anything. That's where you get in life when you stray from your true nature. Also, you can think of God's punishments of the masses of people as Natural selection. In fact, to think of a God as a person is extremely childish, since God IS the world
Aside your pointless invectives, you didn't even tried to hit the core message of my opinion above. God is god and he didn't wrote the bible, specific group of people wrote and modified that book over millennia. Now explain me who gains advantages with hell/heaven concept? Is this omnipotent god who can seemingly do and act like he wants, or mortal and presumptuous "shamans" who crave to have control about what people think and do?
@EssenceOfLight "God" is simply a term used to personify the existence itself. Naturally, if you think of humans as something that is different than the nature, then God didn't wrote the Bible.
Heaven is called many different things in different cultures and religions (Nirvana, Valhalla, Aaru...). And it's a state of peace, when an individual accepts his/her role in life and mortality. Hell is a state of mind that's in constant battle with itself. A mind that is always seeking the escape from the inevitable. Those concepts are much older than the Christianity. People were always craving power and control, and they would use any excuse gain it, even Bible. Obviously, it was used by organised religions for at least one millenia to control people. But that has nothing to do with the concepts in the Bible. If anything, it warned us about tyranny with the stories about Herod and Moses. I'm not even religious, but your statements are pure misunderstandings of what is arguably the greatest book ever. I also don't get why you call priests shamans... Very different professions...
You took the words right out my mouth. Just because God forgives, doesn't mean you accept it and receive it. There are a LOT of people who simply don't believe God exists. It's people like those that will (unfortunately) discover Hell IS real and never experience God's full Love and forgiveness.
@Goforit1010 is it bad that the first time I share my faith is with random people on the internet.
Nope, and you did fantastic! Exactly how it's written in the Bible! Never stop believing in Jesus. Never fear that others hate our faith. But that's specifically what God wants - those with faith, not robots to recite verses to people.
@Goforit1010 thank you maybe this will help me be able to share my faith with others maybe in person this time.
I recommend research İslam to you, bro. İslam is prohibit murder. Killing a person is the very big a sin. Allah send killers to hell
Do not look at the situation of muslim countries. Learn to İslam with Koran (tafsir) and the life of prophet Muhammad.
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