It's one thing to lie to someone about having HIV/Aids and then sleeping with them. That's a physical consequence someone will have to deal with for the rest of their life and depending on which country they live in (developed or developing) that could be a death sentence.Sleeping with someone because they said they love you or because they're rich, but lied about both? Well sorry, but that's just your own dumb ass luck. Learn from it. This is in no way a similar situation as someone being raped, drugged and then assaulted or fondled against their will.You openly consented to having mutual sexual relations with another person. Whether what you know of their background or their emotional state is true or not at face value is irrelevant.You made a dumb mistake and fk'd up by judging someone poorly and spread your legs for the wrong reason... Learn from it.Nobody forced you to have sex with the hopes of getting Money, and nobody can ensure someone will love you for the rest of your life.
I love you ma'am.
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Hahah right , I mean this is not funny but the amount of stupidity that brings on these types of things just blows my mind. These people are meant to be our law makers our helpers of the people there meant to be smart with a degree of intelligence. But far as I can see a monkey is better off slapping his Jaws together.
The people agreeing with it would probably say that you would not have had sex if they hadn't lied about loving you so that does not count as full consent similar how it is with people lying about their HIV status (which I think are drastically different things but ok).
I agree with your comments thank you
The human mind can and will be lead astray by words and by actions of others that fact alone is scary. So know before you engage in any sexual act. Since the world is to this point I would be needing a lot more time to be sure of there actions.
@morimeme1 If people who were only in love only ever had sex a lot of people would never ever be born. Ever. Not everyone who marries someone or who has kids with someone loves that person. Just ask around your school. Your work. Among your friends. Among your relatives even. You'll hear of plenty of people whose parents only got to together initially because of obligation (kids). They didn't exactly love one another at the start but they may now.I'm fortunate my parents married out of love. On the other hand a friend's parents married because she got pregnant and really they had to back then. I'm a realist. Adults are not supposed to be children. And this "law" were it to pass is compensating for children in adult bodies who can not think about whom they pick as a sexual partner. When a person loves you, after all, they won't simply say it but will do things to prove it. Actions as has always been said are stronger than words.
I wish your first statement was correct that every child was made out of love life for the child would be shown love and not 💔
The idea is absolutely insane.
Seriously? You are asking people to be smart as far as sex is concerned? Get outta here, you're pulling our legs! lol
@Daniela1982 well if you would wait till your married to have sex then this whole thing wouldn't be an issue
Waiting for marriage is very medieval and unrealistic. Parents need to teach their kids to be smart because it’s a cruel world out there.
Exactly, that is why girls don't need to get knocked up at 12 and have kids and be a housewife all her life. Plus kids are expensive. From infancy to 18 it will cost over $200,000 per kid to raise. I can't see you do that on a GED.
Yup, I know so many church girls who got married at 18-20 because they wanted to wait to have sex but couldn’t wait long enough to get a college degree, now they are passing on that same mentality to their kids and not encouraging them to go to college, trade school or anything useful. Think with your brain, people!
On neither side, but this comment raises this question for me; what if the emotional trauma one contributed was either a catalyst or late push to the suicide of the victim?
@Lightning8 that wouldn't be trauma at all, in my opinion it's not really a big deal at all. emotional pain shouldn't be an offence, it's subjective.
@NellyNarcotic but the same part of your brain that processes physical pain also prosseses emotional pain. At the very least you'd say mental trauma does affect quality of life right?
@Lightning8 firstly it's not rape. Rape is forcing someone against their will with physical force, grave threat or coersion. The victim will have stress reactions like flashbacks, intrusive images, panic attacks, persistant dissociation or fear, exc... the rapist gets sentenced because it ruins people's lifes in a horrific way mentally, physical damage, and it's a huge violation. Now some dude that's just with some chick cos she's hot and wants to fuck her and she learns he didn't actually like her isn't anything close to what rape is. How can you even call that sexual assault? She won't experience the same symptoms and her life won't be that much ruined. If you make that sexual assault, then you can make not being committed fully rape, sex without love illegal, exc.. It's totalitarian to make fucking someone and pretending to care illegal. doesn't hurt more than a normal breakup. It's the same thing exactly. So breakups should be illegal if the woman is in a bad place or sensitive? besides emotional pain (not trauma unless you mean ptsd. that's just cringe to me to call normal pain 'trauma') does affect people's lives a lot, but it's normal and there's nothing you can do about it by making normal things illegal.
Why do you assume it is the guy lying to a girl and not the other way around?
😂😂😂my words exactly up 9
Stop asuming that it was a guy.
Works both ways, I just refered to specific genders cause that is the most common situation.
Well that’s understandable
Exactly, one could say the "victim" shouldn't be so naive and should do their due diligence; it's obviously not something I'd want to do or wish upon someone else, but the world can be a cruel place!
I guess it could work if we made rules to what love itself is as an act or decision instead of it being a relative word that anyone can use in just about any context.
I don't know.
So let's get this straight it's abuse to LIE... ? Better haul in 80✓ of Washington
It is, especially if the like cause a big damage to the victim, some lies can even lead to death.
I agree , I don't know what the world is up to.
There was apparently a case a while back in China (maybe Korea?) where a couple had a child and the father was pissed. Apparently the woman had a bunch of surgeries to fix her look and he didn't know until the child came out. So he took it to court. This was something i vaguely remember seeing years ago and I dont know the outcome.Just wanted to toss that out there...
@kanelives True I remember that lol.
So if a girl says yes to dinner and has zero interest besides getting a free meal, should she be charged with fraud?
@westwordbound lol fraud for what? If a girl never explicitly states they want sex, then you're the idiot for buying her something with that expectation. And men think women want them to read their minds. Sheesh.
Yeah but plenty of women feign interest (or even outright LIE too) about the possibility of sex, enjoy the attention and free meals and conveniently friendzone after they are done milking the guy. I’m just saying your “entrapment” quote is bullshit. Both genders lie to get something out of people. And some women lie too to get sex by the way
Look at the double standard lol. You see it as emotional manipulation or entrapment. For whatever reasons you have.However for whatever reasons we see, we see a girl trying to get a free meal off you while giving you the impression that she likes you as a whore who should be taught a lesson. You always know you're doing it.You're not gonna be against what you want to keep lol.
@themaker39 Okay weirdo. Enjoy being seen as a creep then. If you know a woman is "using" you and yet still choose to partake in the event, then you're consenting to be manipulated. It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify yourself for being played.
He is not a weirdo. He’s just pointing out the incredible double standard you are embracing. A guy who lies through his teeth is guilty of entrapment. But a girl who lies through her teeth is never culpable nor at fault. So you are saying the girl is victim but the guy is a sucker. Why don’t you get that? You are either willfully blind or just that stupid. But it doesn’t surprise me you think that way though. This double standard applies quite often to how society treats men and women. Girls usually get a pass on their bullshit while guys are held to a much higher standard. And feminist wonder why men dominate leadership roles. It’s simple, we were taught to be self accountable for our actions from an early age.
@westwordbound The girl isn't "lying through her teeth" in the scenario we're talking about. From the point of view of someone who isn't antisocial, the woman might just be enjoying your company and you're buying them drinks so they're like "hey, can't pass this up". From the point of view of the antisocial "mickey mouse" fairly tail, this is suppose to mean they are pretending they want something sexual? How is a woman suppose to "read your mind" and know what you think? Your mentality is the same as people who ridicule women for wearing clothes that are too revealing. It's not your problem, yet you make it your problem. My "kindness" is suddenly an invitation for being sexually assaulted? Now I have to act as some random guy I don't even know wants? Nobody owes you anything and neither do you owe anybody else anything. If you're dumb enough to buy a random girl a drink, especially at the age 38 which means you would think you would have learned by now, then it's your own fault. If you want to date a girl, then try being more up front or finding ways to be up front instead of being a coward, or go move to Saudi Arabia.
You don't know how you sound when you make it look like we buy stuff for every girl that crosses or path, whether we like her or not.
Lied about lying
Not if we create a mind reading device.
I have one 😏
Oh no. You know what I'm thinking😱😱😱I swear it was a long time ago and only happened once.
I'm honestly shocked 😲
I'm sorry☹ please don't tell.😶
Emotional abuse shouldn't be illegal. + how would you prove that? Some people are overly emotional and even if you can show they emotionally abused you, if they can prove that they were even slightly being emotionally abused they could likely avoid it. Most cases of abuse, and likely emotional abuse too have both parties doing it.
Screenshots, witnesses and so on. Emotional abuse is just as bad, so why should it be legal? If you can prove it then why shouldn't the attacker be judged? And betrayal is not something you can anticipate.