And if they take the time to check FBI crime statistics which Clearly shows Black on Black crime is no more prevalent than white on white crime hispanic on hispanic crime or Asian on Asian crime in America. Because as Any idiot knows, Murder by and large is a crime of Proximity and Passion. (basically you kill the people you are close to). The only reason why white people talk about Black on Black crime is because they dont want us to speak about the REAL issue. Which is Police Brutality that runs rampant in black communities. Because They know damn well, that if white teenagers get murdered by police by having a toy gun, or for Jay walking or for other minor offences, They wouldn't Stand for it. But they expect Us to. Im Done. Good bye.
I understand what your saying, but just because there are a few cops, all of them are bad? Why are BLM burning down there own town?
can't believe people still defend the moronic "BLM" movement
The problem is not "A few white copes doing bad-bad things! Boohoo!" The problem is that the system that the cops are apart of is corrupt and needs to be changed. What you probably do not realize, is that African Americans are an unwilling part of a Nationwide genocide due to us not being "Necessary" any more. We are ignored as People. And we have People like you asking us "Why are we so angry?" If you would take a moment to walk in our shoes for just A Day and just Listen without your groundless fear. Or by god, Imagine a white person in our scenario? Perhaps you will be less "confused"
@HonestWhiteGuy That's Riiight~ And 30 years, 40 years from now We'll still be lashing out against your unjust system. And We'll Still. Fucking. Be here. so prepare yourself "White Guy" your in for a world of stress and anger and I will laugh and relish it. love ya! ^-^
Plus you still have a tendency to Generalize us as a whole group. Out of sheer laziness or for baseless arguments I have no clue. But just as you separate a country bumpkin from You is the same way you have to see Us. The actions of a couple of morons does not reflect us as a whole, nor our movement.
"The actions of a couple of morons does not reflect us as a whole, nor our movement."What you just said can be applied to cops. "The actions of a couple moron cops does not reflect us as a whole, " because a few cops are racist, all of them are? ok.
This system isn't unjust against you. Asians make more income than Whites do. Other "minorites" are having no problems succeeding, maybe the problems in your community and not the system in which you keep thinking it is.I promise you, if you immigrate to another country where you are a minority you will not have the same opportunity and affirmative action/diversity quotas you have here
Black crime actually is more prevalent, that is not up for debate. Blacks at 12% of population commit roughly 50% of the murders, annually. That number increases when you realize its mostly young Black males, so maybe 5% of population comitting 50% of the murders? Thats a shit ton.Dont forget that Black on White crime is statistically a lot more common than White on Black
Yes! However! When the Racist Moronic Cop targets a black person? They don't hurt our feelings! They Murder and Get Away with it! The police officers specifically on the East coast are trained to "Patrol" predominantly minority/black neighborhoods as opposed to Protecting them. And with that comes Unnecessary Caution, Anxiety and Violence. Where your feelings are hurt and are preaching Kumbaya while you can walk safely down the street knowing you won't catch a bullet from a cop on a bad day? we have to watch our backs Everyday. I dont understand what You are not understanding yourself! Under the Justice System We are Target Practice. Under the Justice System You receive Justice. We Want Justice and Protection! Not to pay taxes to buy our Own Grim Reapers.
Once again twice as many Whites are killed yearly by police as Blacks. The things you are saying are simply exaggerations based on a liberal leaning media, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than randomly being shot by police.
@HonestWhiteGuy Mhm Uhuh Sure. You can say this, because you are a White Male. Our problem Is NOT Income. Our problem is NOT opportunity (Even though that Is a major Part) Our Problem is that People Like You Run the System, you still with me? And That System, Kills Us. Sorry if your butthurt friend, but pointing to Other Minorities having dough and a say and saying "But Im not getting paid as much as him!" Is not the Matter at hand. And by the way? The Affirmative action went to white women the moment they saw opportunity. We built this country and have Given you Many things as a Whole. And yet you still push Us to the side. But I digress. Are You with me still? Do you need to take notes? What are you not understanding here? 'Cop= 50% Kill for Blacks. Cop=9% Kill for Everyone Else. Change, Now. What so Hard? ' is that simplified enough? Or are you going to twist this into an insult selfishly and ignore my Entire paragraph because your offended? By Me not wanting to Die by people I pay?
And when you say things as dumb as that I'm glad you are only 12% of the population :P Yea man, I'm sure it would be soooo much better if you were running things and not Whites, right?
Also you didn't build the country, that line might work on other White guilt people but it doesn't on me, someone whos studied history extensively.
if you are so mad about all of this, why don't you become a cop, or apart of the criminal justice system and TURN IT AROUND?
@HonestWhiteGuy And Just for kicks and giggles what do YOU interpret as Justice my friend? What part of "We black people do not want to get killed for nothing/ have a chance at trial under the Law" does not translate into Justice? One Nation Under God Indivisible with LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. That INCLUDES BLACK. PEOPLE. It's in your Fucking Pledge! You can't Pick and Choose Freedoms WhiteGuy. We demand the Same Dignity and Respect as Your "God Given Country" Blessed You with. And the Entire world for that matter. Because A white guy go ANY where in the world I GUARANTEE You will be treated Better than if a brown skinned person stepped into the same territory. INDIA was not even Called India until You guys showed up. Iraq and Iran Did not Exist. That SAYS Something. So Stop with this bullshit "Let them Eat Cake" Attitude because your testing my patience with your ignorance.
Likewise I dont want to be killed for nothing if I go into Oakland wit the 100+ murders a year, of which 90% are committed by Black males. So thats something we can agree on.Difference is you are much more likely to be shot by a gangbanger than a random policeman.
@HonestWhiteGuy 5% commiting 50% That Is Laughable dude! Can you even Do math? Its like the fucking welfare myth over here Probably written by the Same dude! In order for 5% of One minority community to commit 50% of the crime IN the Nation. EVERYBODY has to have robbed or killed somebody! That means My momma my grand daddy even the Baby gotta hold a glock! What the fuck? and let's say I even pretend to believe this White conservative written Bullshit. If a White Boy can shoot up a School, and get dropped off at Wendy's. And THEN get a fucking trial. We deserve A Trial of our peers. That does not give cops the Say so to start Blowing people away like the fucking Scarf Face you privileged Dick waffle. White on White Crime is just as High as Black on Black Crime and you Best be sure if a Black dude kills a white guy He will get put down however it is Not Vice Versa. That's the problem. You are not measuring the issue Equally among people Whiteguy You're Slipping.
So instead of pointing at timmy and Immaturely saying "w-well He did some bad stuff too!" How about Manning up and giving me a Real argument. Next.
And it Better be a good enough argument to refute what BLM stands for. I know You ran out of them along time ago, and are trying to Steer the conversation. But I'll give you a moment to look up some more Bullshit on Google. Take your time. Careful it says. org not. Trump
Fbi statistics show Blacks commit 50% of murders. When you take out Black women 12/2 is 6%, follow me?
Because One Black Person in the force does not account for a system that encompasses over 100,000 people! I don't know what Fantasy Unicorn world you live in, Or perhaps you are not older than the age of eight, but you can't just Walk up to the President of the United States and say "Hey Buddy... I want Ice cream Day!" That shit doesn't work. It takes majority voting and protests to get this shit started. Me putting on the devil's badge and becoming a 'Black Face' on the Historically racist task force does not fucking change anything. At best I'll get Fired. At worse I'll get killed by my own partner and it will be covered up. Welcome to the Black person's Reality. Power is only given once taken violently. Whereas People listen to you Presumably because you pass the Skin tone test.
@HonestWhiteGuy OHH Okay! Then Please tell me who picked the cotton that made the South such a lucrative spot in the U. S? Who actually had to work in the fields to pay for the Louisiana Purchase? Who Invented more shit than any other minority on average? What was Another Reason/ Real reason why the Revolutionary war was fought? Yeah "history" is written by the Victors. And trust me. Your Knowledge on White washed History Doesn't Impress me.
@HonestWhiteGuy Also Whoopsies! We're Off Subject again. Answer the Question. What Is a Logical reason to refute BLM? Go.
Explain why a Black cop shot a Black person then a few weeks ago and Black people rioted and were stopping peoples cars in streets trying to beat them up yelling "they White, get they ass" in Milwaukee? Nothing to do with Whites yet racist Blacks attacked wtihout thinking targeting Whites? Just another proof of what Im talking about and proof you dont get it.
@HonestWhiteGuy OOHH Really? Where'd you get that statistic from? Aliensbuiltthepyramids. to? Boy Please. Why do you still not actually go into In depth research instead of relying on Right-side Republican Bullshit? You are So invested into your Own lies you're too afraid and angry about the real and Honest Truth. You are Wrong. Your System is Wrong. Your Country is Fucked Up. So you can Pretend you have won, give your stupidly false facts, and Live with your head shoved firmly up your ass as you cover your ears and say "I Was Right". Because you're going to do it anyway and I can argue for weeks. But I encourage you actually, Oh I don't know. Read something Other than the tabloids and your false statistical websites and spout it. You will always be wrong. And I have had enough of your idiotic Company and Lame excuses and Avoidance of my Questions. So write what you want you idiotic fuck. I wish you a Long Useless life arguing with phantoms on the Internet. Enjoy your ignorance~ USA!
if you think the country is sooooo fucked up, why don't you leave the U. S? You say how terrible it is, and unjust, I just dont' get that.
Because the country isn't that bad, its great actually. Deep down they know that of course but they pretend it isn't so they can get more benefits, welfare and affirmative action...
@HonestWhiteGuy Yeah that's what happens when People feel Angry and Frustrated. they attack the oppressor indiscriminately the same way Police Officers attack Us Indiscriminately. Don't tell us how "We Should Play Fair" in a cheater's game or "What We Should do" Whiteguy as a violent white man, What Would You Do? The Same Goddamn thing. It's a part of your savage nature. Your Inner Animal that you want to pretend doesn't exist because you pillage and steal from the land around you. Instinct says Attack those who Attack Me and My Family. You will do the Same thing I do not care what "Statistics" you shove in my face scribbled in crayon. okay. Now I am done. Later~!
Fine. I want my family name stolen from me 500+ Years ago. I want my land and my mule promised by Abraham Lincoln (Of course translated into Present terms) Enough income to sustain me until I can Sustain myself. I want an apology and to get paid for all of the work my Direct Ancestors did on the average worker's wage. Oh and I want all of the shit you guys appropriated as well as the inventions that you stole without a thank you as well asker. What's That? You can't do it? Damn, well Guess you're great great great grand daddy bought something from Africa R Us and forgot the reciept. So you're Stuck with us. Why don't you go back to Your country? You stole that from the Native Americans but Hey! At least you can trace that back to the first Asker to ever be shat out on this planet.
If were violent (which we aren't) wouldn't attacking us randomly make us more violent and frustrated? Later~
@HonestWhiteGuy Uhuh. Hope you're ready to die then. This generation has made you soft. We've accepted death long ago. So go ahead, get violent. Your children and people you hold dear will be caught in the cross fire, whereas we were born warriors. (And you can't claim Warrior and Civilized in the same breath. They're two Very different things.) You have never beaten an enemy that has nothing to lose. Not someone that you people have treated this poorly. And there will not be a "later" in our interaction.
Lol calm down little girl
you do know, that there are movements for black crime?
@Bobbyhill1 There are some people that protest violent crime in some black neighborhoods. They are generally small groups within the community that are ignored by the community for the most part. Maybe you have 20 people that go out and talk to people about the problems the community is having. Then you have BLM shit where you have tens of thousands of people that act all mad and break their own city and jump/murder people of other races for no other reason than race... It's the same shit they did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s... The economy took a dive and here it comes again... The church ladies trying to promote community responsibility are on the right track, the problem is the community supports groups like BLM instead.
lol, no it does not involve 20 people marching buddy. there are many programs that get kids off the streets away from guns, drugs, gangs etc.. They educate them about the dangers and tell teach them right for wrong since a lot of their fathers are missing. I have a honest question, did you grow up in a ghetto? the best way to understand someones story is to have experienced it yourself
@Bobbyhill1 No I didn't grow up in the ghetto, but there plenty of ghettos around here... One of my closest childhood friends grew up in public housing projects. I use to hang at his house since I was 5 years old... I know about programs like that. So for example there is a group who runs a community center around here at the public housing projects. They do after school tutoring, run a food pantry, and stuff like that... They can sort of influence kids while they're in elementary school, but once they're in middle school they're running with PCB throwing rocks at anyone that enters the projects especially cop cars... Getting into shit, selling drugs, boosting cars, etc. I was friends with tons of them. When it came to gang prevention around here there were 3 people that ran a program. They worked their ass doing it, but still they were only three people. I was in that program. I've been to all the neighborhoods with cameras on the light posts and all that shit. I'm not fucking blind.
The reality though is that most of those groups are small projects. They aren't large community efforts. They have very little impact.
I get that, but when its a small portion of cops abusing there power, why are all of them targeted? There are bad doctors out there, bad dentists, bad lawyers, but not all of them are terrible.
Because it's 2 folded. For 1, the current economic state of Most inner city minorities are bad enough. That needs fixing. It's that much harder when the very system and institution you live under is also deterring from contributing to stopping said black on black crime, Hispanic on Hispanic crime, black on white, white on black, etc. Especially a country whose motto and the mantra we hold our hat on is "liberty and justice for all", "the land of opportunity", and all that jazz. Before you can clean up black on black crimes, you need help and cooperation from law enforcement whose job, again, is to also clean up the streets so black on black crime doesn't persist. They're law ENFORCEMENT
Enforce the law. Enforce the community. Not exploit and abuse it. It stretches far beyond the reach of the police level as it's more of a societal and governmental issue as well, such as actually investing in failing schools as well. Innercity socioeconomic problems are a result of governmental neglect as much as the individual person. You don't improve conditions and said areas and no matter what else you do, crime levels like the ones in Chicago, Compton, Camden, Detroit, New Orleans, etc will still exist
Thanky you. Well said. I am following you.
How about Black on White crime? Its statistically a lot higher than White on Black, why is it ignored and never mentioned in the media?
@HonestWhiteGuy maybe you should learn to read 😑
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BLM stands for Black Lives Matter NOT Black Lives shot by White Cops Matter. Therefore, if they're going to make a movement about black lives, then it should be about ALL black lives. And to say that they don't involve street violence proves the point of this movement's hypocrisy.
@Tinerr no not exactly, black lives matter is specifically for cop violence on blacks, not street violence. when a white person who isn't a cop kills a black they never make the protest, therefor your logic here is flawed. If they will talk about black on black violence then they should also talk about white on black except they dont because it is specifically for cops. its really that simple. I never said it was right or wrong, so your entire stance about hypocrisy is moot to me. all I am stating the purpose of the movement... I take no sides. and tinerr I am also assuming that you downvoted my reply? do you always do that when people tell you the honest truth?
Yes, I down-voted your comment. And when did BLM state that they only protest against cop on black violence? If that is their intention, then like I said they should've titled their movement as Black Lives shot by White Cops Matter and that way we would actually understand their "purpose".
@Tinerr they dont have to state anything because they already have hundreds of times. Anyone who doesn't know the purpose of blm must live under a rock. I will never get when people try to refute blm with ''oh well what about blacks killing eachother'' Your argument would hold true if of course you said, ''why dont they march for all the whites and latinos being killed by cops?'' We should stay on subject here. BLM is specifically for cops, so when you make an argument you must have a relevant point to it. their purpose is contradicting (which it is because whites and latinos are also killed by cops). so if you want to talk about black on black crime, then you would have to bring up a movement that actually deals with it. there stance has nothing to do with street violence, nor was it ever intended to be for that, just like put the guns down has nothing to do with police brutality. Different protests, different meanings. I didn't name it.
also, I think blm was originally named enough is enough or something like that. still dont understand why you downvoted my comment when I told you the blatant truth
You're still butthurt from the down-vote? And they still should've titled Black Lives shot by White Cops Matter when they made this movement and on top of that this movement has accomplished nothing so I still don't see their purpose. And we didn't point out Hispanics or Asian on black crimes because there are statistically low rates but yes, this should've been pointed out. But if I have to point out Hispanic and Asian on black crime, then BLM has to point out black on black crime since clearly the title says "Black Lives Matter"
@Tinerr no im not butthurt, but I am confused as to why you did downvote me when I did not give my personal opinion on the matter until a few replies in. you are basically downvoting a clear fact with no personal feeling involved. it makes no sense lol. you are focusing to much on the title and your argument literally makes no sense at this point. why would we point out inter racial crimes if black lives matter is specifically a cop brutality movement? your stance is illogical. the wording may not have been the best choice, but it has nothing to do with street violence nor is there no arguing that. your entire reply consists of ''well technically since the name of the group if black lives matter...'' you want to talk about black on black crime and white on black and black on white? go look up some other movements.
This is the first time I even down-voted a comment. BLM did not make a clear statement about their movement being strictly about police brutality which is why it makes no sense to not involve street crime. And just because there are other organizations that speak about black on black crime does it really excuse BLM to not bring up this issue? And the reason why we are mainly focusing on BLM than other movements is because this is the most violent one that needs to stop.
@Tinerr sigh, yes they did make it clear, after all thats all they marched about. you downvoted a comment with no personal objections in it, just hard facts. where is this going at this point? I am not defending it nor should you be trying to objectify it on my post when that clearly wasn't the point of the initial reply. look back at my answer, then realize that you are arguing about... nothing
God, again with the down-vote..."1. The movement doesn’t care about black-on-black crime. The idea that black-on-black crime is not a significant political conversation among black people is patently false" ("11 Major Misconceptions About the Black Lives Matter Movement" blacklivesmatter. com). But you just said they strictly protest against white cop on black crime so why would BLM clarify the black on black crime misconception on their own website?
@Tinerr all they said is that the notion of black people not caring about black on black crime is false. In no way, shape or form did they say black lives matter is about something else other than cops killing blacks. my point still stands. please re-read your link
@Tinerr Actually, you're the one who's butthurt here. You lost an argument, just admit it to yourself. BLM has published countless statements specifying that they fight against police brutality and white-against-black police brutality in particular. As for the title, your stubbornness about this is silly. Of course BLM could have named itself "Hereby We Proudly And Most Officially Declare That We, The Group Of African American Supporters Of Black Rights, Deem It Important To Focus In Our Campaign Exclusively..."Even if you don't work in marketing, I'm sure you've heard something about names and titles being catchy? That's the very point of having a name. The Republican party also doesn't have its whole party program as a name, it simply calls itself Republican party, relying on people being smart enough to see and understand what they're fighting for.
@BlueCoyote exactly, she is reading to much into the name and giving it her own meaning when the movement clearly states what they are about lol, so stupid...
Uhuh keep blaming your girlfriend for "attracting" your fist you fuckin moron.
@TokyoGhoulLover LOL mad?
I agree, good post!
Maybe this refresher will help...www.nytimes.com/.../police-videos-race.html
which is actually not the case at all.
@YourName123 What is not the case?
Oh good! The more male downvotes I get on my opinions, the more I know I am right.
cops aren't indiscriminantly murdering blacks and blacks in particular.White violent criminals are shot by cops more oftenOver 99% of blacks shot by cops brought it on themselves by resisting arrest, fighting, or running from cops. Hands up, dont loot.You can count the number of unjust shootings this year on ONE HAND and cops have thousands of interactions with blacks EVERY DAY.
its a completely false narrative by race hustlers to play black folks
@YourName123 Sure, white felons are definitely getting killed, but many of these blacks are being harrassed or killed at statistically abnormal levels. One gentleman - an older black man who is somewhat famous I believe (I wish I could remember his name), was stopped by cops for traffic offenses over 100 times in just a few years. I've been driving for 35 years and I've been stopped less than 20 times. Is this man a much worse driver than me? Absolutely not. What he is guilty of that I am not is "driving while black".Furthermore, any single person who is unarmed and shot in the back by a cop... and then the cop alters the crime scene to not make it look like a murder... that's not right. And that is just the sort of thing that has been happening for decades but, because of technology, now we are all becoming aware of it.Something better get fixed or blacks will start "exercising our 2nd Amendment rights" and there will be a lot more dead cops than just 5 in Dallas.