Should serving in the military be mandatory?

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I'm talking about able bodied people and not people with disability or other conditions.
Should serving in the military be mandatory?#Military #MilitaryService #MandatoryMilitary

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  • Yes (Explain why, please)
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  • It should be a choice between military or alternative civilian service
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  • Nobody should be forced, but they who won't join should be treated as 2nd class citizens
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  • No. People should be allowed to decide over themselves.
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  • Other (Explain what and why)
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  • No. No one should be forced to risk their life. And what if they don't agree with the war or what the war is for in the first place? No one wants to risk their life for a cause they don't believe in. let the people that want to fight fight. I'd rather immigrate to another country than be forced to join the military.

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    • I would also rather immigrate to another country than joining the military - as a pacifist. As long my country have the policy that says autistic people aren't allowed to serve I'm all good and don't need to serve. Nowadays only volunteers serves, but it certain circumstances it can change I guess. If Russia attacked Norway I'm not surprised if our country forced people to join.

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    • not every country has legal gins though, but fair. what about civilian service then? Seeming that keeping the home front up and running is imperative in a total war situation

    • i wouldn't have a problem if these people were volunteers, but as we're talking about making it mandatory, I know that's not your angle. I still don't think that one should be forced to join or be forced to train to aide the military or other such forces. Making such courses more open to volunteers though is something I would consider. Of course there would still be some tests, but that would widen the number of individuals that could aid when need be while still allowing others to make their own decisions. although in total war, men would get drafted anyway, so it would be like forcing them. and there's nothing I can do to change that.

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  • Well, I think IF you're going to have an army (which I'm critical of anyway), it makes sense to make it obligatory for everyone. I admit this is quite an infringement on personal liberty but it also holds some benefits. Most importantly, the army can be a place where people from very different backgrounds come together and work on things as a group. If you're rich, you might have a poor buddy in your troop, if you're white you might be among other races or recent immigrants, if you're from a big city you might deal with countryside folks... in some countries like Switzerland, Belgium, Canada, Ireland or Finland it can even bring together people who speak different languages. In that sense, it''s a great melting pot that can - with some luck - make many young soldiers more tolerant and understanding of otherness. This gives a society a feeling of belonging together, rather than being divided by such (mostly irrelevant) differences.

    However, I also believe that civil service should be an alternative. Especially in times of peace, these types of "jobs" can be even more valuable and the social effects might be quite similar. For example one of my best friends is currently doing his (mandatory) civil service. He was ordered to work in a home for refugees and he absolutely loves the job. While most people only read about the "evil refugees" in the newspaper, he actually deals with them everyday. For example he has organized a little program where he makes cultural tours once a week. Any refugee who is interested can join the group and they visit a museum or exhibition together. For the refugees, this is really cool because they have to sit around all day and they're so bored. So he has already received a lot of good feedback and made some friends ;-). There's even a young couple from Iraq that we invited to a little garden BBQ party with some friends. They're both really great people and they speak good English. It was so nice to see them so happy... I think just sitting there with some nice people and talking/eating in a peaceful atmosphere really meant the world to them.

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What Girls Said 8

  • No one wants to die. War forces people to fight and die.

    When there is a national crisis, I believe that it is mandatory for the nation - men, women, and children - to defend the land against the enemy.

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    • Are you saying you want children in the military? How do you think Miss Jones' Year 3 class are gonna do against Bin Laden?

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    • If country A attacks country B and the country B's population decreases I would rather let the country A and B be one country instead of sending children to war. Forcing children to war is awful and I don't understand how some people can support child soldiers.

    • It really depends on what your value is. Some people don't want to surrender to the enemy, and they will go to extreme lengths, like training children to become soldiers to defend the land and the people's sense of dignity. Other people will take the submissive route and surrender to the enemy. But surrendering means that the enemy can do whatever it wants with you, including enslaving you and torturing you. Either way is ugly and painful.

  • in my country it is. helped my brothers become more organised, sleep early, be disciplined and man up. and learn to coexist with others. definitely helps. except if you have been super disciplined, and hard working and masculinised since childhood so the army is worthless for you.

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    • Sure you experience a lot in the military and learns a lot. But is forcing a person going to war and fight in the battle field right or wrong?

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    • @lukazervaki i know dude not everyone can be a man like you. momma's boys have to be spoonfed till they are elderly. how comes you serve in greece? have a greek father?

    • Greek father, Georgian mother. Apparently I will get called from both countries to serve but I will go for Greece.

  • Heck No. Why would the military want people like me who are against wars and not interested being in the military?

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    • Why some countries have mandatory military service is because if they don't they won't have enough soldiers going to war. South-Korea has North-Korea as a threat and Finland worries about Russia. If the country has a low population it needs soldiers and hasn't enough volunteers. Then everybody between 18 - 20 have to serve between 6 months to 2 years depending on the country. If you don't want to serve you can either do civilian service or go to prison in such countries.

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    • Agree. But some people thinks it's very important to defend their country if it gets attacked, so therefor they thinks so.

    • Oh you privileged Americans... thousands of miles away from your enemies.

  • I wouldn't mind having a certain period of required community service. However, I don't think military involvement should be required of any person.

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  • No. People should be allowed to decide over themselves.
    Considering that you can die during your service it shouldn't be mandatory to do it.

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  • During peaceful times, you shouldn't be, but if things get bad enough that the draft comes into play, go. Freedom isn't free and you gotta protect it, your home, the people you care about, with everything you got.

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  • Not mandated but highly encouraged. I personally wish to have the military training.

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  • Nope that would be authoritarian

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What Guys Said 62

  • the only way i think it should be mandatory in america is if perhaps you want to own a gun military service then perhaps it should be mandatory like in switzerland

    other than that no i don't think it should be mandatory

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    • I really like this idea, actually

    • @madhatters4 What about those who already own at least one gun? Would there be an age restriction on being in the military because of this reason?

    • @MysteriousDarkness it's only an idea that i sort of like. but i guess you could grandfather in people who already own guns especially those well beyond the age to serve. so if you applied this new law it would only apply to people young enough to serve who want to purchase guns.

  • I think military service should be mandatory only if necessary for the defense of the homeland. In the US, we have a provision for a sincere conscientious objector to not participate in armed aggression.

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  • For a major war that's very costly, I think letter B is the most reasonable choice.

    God forbid it but if a foreign power ever tried to invade my country then yes, all able bodied (physically and mentally fit) people should put the 2nd amendment to good use and defend the country.
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  • No one should be forced into the military. That is a major, life alterning choice with the potential for devastating, permanent consequences that not everyone is suited for. Also, what are the standards for deciding if someone is or isn't disabled and therefore cannot be drafted? Because many people who do not qualify as disabled are unable to withstand the physical demands of military life. For example, I can walk, run, jump and climb in small doses. But I would become very sick very quickly if I had to do anything that physical for an extended period of time. I also require a special diet. Without that I would be in so much pain I wouldn't be able to move much for a minimum of two or three days. I don't qualify as disabled by government standards, but I am unable to work. I certainly couldn't survive the military.
    Also, mandatory for who? We can't possibly have EVERYONE in the military, since there are so many other professions that require full time work. So how do we decide who has to serve? Too many variables and potential problems. And no doubt a rebellion for being fprce to serve.

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  • other, national service is a good idea, at least for a short period of time. Seeming that the vast majority of places in the world have defence forces for obvious reasons, it'd be easier to defend a nation if everyone had at least militia training of weaponry and the lay of the land.

    Mandatory military service though? No, seeming that a lot of wars these days are rarely fought for the survival of ones country and more for the interest of the state. As well as the fact that it is the job of the soldiers to fight our wars that otherwise don't concern us much/at all at home. I'd be more likely to say yes to mandatory military service if there was considerable chance that your homeland was under threat (enemy troops are considered powerful and fast moving enough within a certain range or literally attacking on home soil)

    civilian/military service would be a useful choice when the war comes to you, as total war (all wars in the modern age) rely BOTH on military front line and civilian home front to work smoothly in order to sustain a good war effort. A quota should be made however giving priority to those who can't serve militarily in a homefront war (physical/mental disability, too old, too young etc.) and in terms of numbers to give more manpower to where it needs to be

    TL;DR other in terms of only basic national service in most situations, civilian/military service if attacked on home soil

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  • No one should be forced to serve unless it is necessary. Most modern countries have a standing army that's ready to go. There is no reason to have the standard citizen serve if it's not necessary. If the entire army was just gone then maybe, but it's not necessary.

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  • not feasible, plus a lot of them wouldn't be cut out for it anyways even if they passed physical and medical, better to reserve the draft for war, although I believe that in this time of forced "equality" Women should be on the draft too if equality is what they really want

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  • When the US went to all-volunteer military, the fights and discipline problems among the rank-and-file troops dropped tremendously. I like the idea of an all-volunteer military, with the exception of maybe a HUGE war and the country were in danger of being invaded. Still, those who served in the military should be given special status, such as the VA benefits the veterans have in the US, or preferential treatment in hiring.

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  • People should be allowed to decide. Some people have certain plans for their life that they want to achieve and serving would derail that possible. Plus, in my opinion, I wouldn't want to serve in the US military nowadays anyway. Our military is being used to overthrow nations and occupy them. Our military is an embarrassment now; big fall from grace since the days of WW2

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  • Nope. I won't fight for a country I have no respect for nor will I fight for fat corrupt politicians who have been spoiled by their rich parents ever since they were born and who are sitting at home while we fight. Id rather fight against them actually.

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  • it depends on your culture, ethics and religion etc. For example in my culture it's preferred to be in military than lead an ordinary civilian life. People have a tendency to join it whenever they get a chance. So, it's not mandatory still everyone wishes for it.

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  • Why would I want to risk my life for a bunch of politicians who just want money? Also, why would I want to kill people who are protecting their resources? that makes me apart of the problem where people think war is actually a solution to helping the human race when it really does nothing but give money to the rich while peoples homes get destroyed

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  • I voted for B. I think being in the military or in a service job could provide skills that you otherwise might not have had the incentive to obtain on their own. Of course, I can see the pros and cons of both sides.

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  • Well, I for one am psycho so I would kill myself the moment my shoelace broke. I think people like me should not and are not allowed to serve for a good reason. However, to serve mandatory, I don't think so because not everyone agrees with war. Seriously, let's go bomb the shit out of a country and blow the fuck up little kids and women with the.50 cal or the grenade launcher on a tank. Seriously, fuck that shit, that shit is evil and it's sick.

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  • I am for the idea of mandatory military service and here's why.

    In small countries such as Singapore and South Korea, military service is made compulsory for all able bodied men who attain 18 years of age. Why? Because these countries lack manpower and human resources unlike large nations to afford a voluntary army. Secondly, such countries are surrounded by nations that might pose a threat to them in the future due to ideological/religious issues (e. g. Singapore is surrounded by Muslim countries of Malaysia and Indonesia). Furthermore, a mandatory military service raises the national unity of a country and strengthens the country's social fabric because those who go through it know what it means to defend their country.

    Now, in my dissenting opinion, for countries such as America, Canada, Russia and so on, who are large in size and human resources and who have had past war experiences and therefore the inculcation of patriotism since young, there is not so much of a need to have mandatory military service.

    Thus, from all the reasons given above, a mandatory military is largely situational. It depends on the history of the country (in terms of war experience and defence capabilities) as well as the amount of human capital it has. For small countries such as Singapore, a mandatory army is more than neccesary as opposed for a country such as Russia.

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  • I was forced by law to serve in the army for two years. =2 years of time and income lost. While other people with some medical excuse were earning an income and getting promoted. Thousands of euros spoiled.

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  • I think it should be compulsory to join the 'civil service' instead. Things like the Customs & Excise, Immigration/Quarantine, Diplomatic Protection, Education Department, Security & Intelligence Service and things like that.

    However, I would also say that you should be paid for your service, which would last for 5 years from the age of 18.

    Simples...

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  • Military should not be mandatory because you could end up with people not giving it their all because of not wanting to be there. You could end up with tons of people being discharged for the lack of trying in boot camp let alone battle. If someone does not want to own a gun then why would they want to use an automatic?

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  • I like the way the U. S Does with the military. It could use improvements such as including women in the draft. Maybe better budgeting as well. In conclusion military service should not be mandatory unless it is needed.

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  • I encourage people to not join the US military for one simple reason. WE ARE NOT BEING ATTACKED. WE ARE THE AGGRESSORS!

    When you join the largest industry in the USA, the military industrial complex, you are risking your life as well as maybe killing others all in the name of making bankers and evil people money. That is what today's wars are about.

    And people wonder why America is so hated around the world. Who can blame these countries for hating us when we continue to bomb and kill their people on their soil.

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  • A few years ago, I would have said no, but I'm starting to change my mind.

    I've noticed that countries that have this, tend NOT to have certain other problems to the same extent as countries that don't.

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  • Many countries require military service; it's a good lesson in teamwork and discipline.

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    • It's 'good' until you realize what the military do and realize it's not a scout boot camp just for teamwork activities, but you realize in your training you're learning to use guns so you can kill people and you would be traumatized killing people in the battlefield if a war happens. Forcing pacifist in the military isn't a good idea in my opinion and therefor only volunteers should go in, and not everyone.

    • If you're mentally weak

    • Who's mentally weak and what do you mean?

  • no because the military relies on each and every person if someone isn't wanting to be their they won't do their best meaning they may cause someone to die

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  • only case of really bad war. like a world war 3. we have several safety measures in place before that happens.

    other than that, hell no! we are the best military for the simple reason everyone wanted to be there.

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    • world war 3s cause is old people fighting for money, you would be ok dying for that?

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    • You are aware that the west is funding both sides, right?

    • and iran just recently threatened to send thousands of nukes to the united states, yet you seem really cozy with them.

  • I would say it should be voluntery. But a nation needs adequate men and women to serve in military. So if many are interested, there wouldn't be any problem. If there are less servicemen, obviously it'll made mandatory.

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  • Hell no, why should kids fresh out of high school be forced to die so the military industrial complex can fatten their wallets.

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  • I personally think a mandatory community service thing would be good, it could be done after college as well, meaning it could be something relevant to your degree and builds work experience

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  • Army is a place where men are disciplined, they teach them to man up, respect and speak. It is a trial every men must go through. Soon is my time and I will gladly go to train as special forces. Of course I will continue my studies and become a scientist. Going to army does not mean you gonna work for them after your period is over.

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    • The military don't necessary always learn respect. If the military is mandatory it steals a person's freedom to choose over themselves and the military kills in the battlefield.

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    • But when it's not peace time and a war breaks out the military actually do kill people. Defending or invading - killing is killing and shouldn't be done by people who don't want to do it.

    • Oh God. If you don't want to kill go and just let them kill you when war breaks out.

  • I think the military is a terible developmental avenue for a man, but the rest of society is pure narcissistic shit so tragically it is provably the only avenue for becoming a adult other than law enforcement or raising a kid (notice I said raising not making)

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  • No, and I would view it as involuntary servitude. (slavery)

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