You have a small percent of prisoners who "just messed up," and there is hope for change in them and those that have decided for themselves that they want more---those that try to educate themselves on the inside and such to make use of their time----then there is everyone else where prison is just an extension of their lives on the street and a way station before going right back into it and starting all over again on the outside. It's one of the most frustrating systems on the planet to try to work within because you can spend months working with an individual and turning their life around on the inside, but when they get out, the only place they have to go is straight back into the arms of the people that put them there in the first place or the environment that encouraged them to go down the wrong path. People who don't grow up in those environments think, oh it's so easy to avoid drugs, gangs, crime or why don't they "just go to school," but it's not like 'your' neighborhood. I used to work at a school where I had 3rd graders bringing guns to school---not normal---and yet for them, it was like stage one. There is no one in the home to guide these kids, their environments are absolutely toxic, and they grow up with everyone around them in jail or unavailable and then at 16, 18, 21 when they get caught, society is like, well they had a choice not to do crime. Sure that may be the thing to say, but if you grow up in a gang ridden neighborhood, can you be surprised if that kid grows up to be in a gang?My heart goes out to those who really try to help these kids/adults on the path to rehabilitation because it's an often thankless job where you see the same people back in the system over and over again, but they do it for that 3% that will get out and pack up and start a new life on the right side of the law. Jail is the punishment and if you can save some people, why not at least try.
Why did this get downvote. What did she say that she has to get downvoted
Almost all the responses have downvotes whether they said yea or nay to rehab, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. People feel what they feel and vote how they vote and with no explanation or rebuttable, who knows.
Right, I agree with you. Everyone deserves a chance to turn their life around. Majority won't but there will be some that you can get through to, so to speak.
@Ecologygirl76 You just never know---that person that steps in and tries to change their life may be the absolute first person to ever even try to do so or to help them. A lot of people have that story, where one person took a chance on them and that was all they needed was for someone to care when so many wouldn't or don't.
Everyone is talking out of their asses on this. I've worked in the prison system. 90% of offenders, return to prison. You can't fix them, and they DON'T want you to fix them. Society is a bitch, and they don't want any part of it. Prison is their world, and they are happy to be there. They have Zero responsibilities and they love it. Prisoners don't worry about putting food on the table. Even if they have kids, they don't worry about feeding them, because it's comfortably out of their control. All they have to do is wish things go well for their families, without ever having to do anything themselves. Most all people who are in prison are their for drug related issues. Then the libs cry about that. The prisoners WANT to be in prison, because it's the ONLY way to get off Meth. Treatment, councililing and all the other bullshit, doesn't work. All that is is a money making scheme for the government who pays for it. So until there's a medical cure for drug addiction, just let these people have their alternate world. Don't punish them and don't try to fix them. You're just wasting your time.
@HeyThere94 I worked in the prison system, jack ass. You are some tard on GAG who lives in his mom's basement and thinks they know about life.
Which prison not all prison are the same
@Egoless_M0rtal I'm not talking about Norway! lolI'm talking about America. And you have no idea how well I treated offenders. I'm just trying to explain to you that they view prison as the only society they can function in. They tell me that if they go back out into the reall world, they'll reoffend, because they can' t deal with it. Often times when they get close to their release date, they'll find a way to get in trouble so they can stay incarcerated. I'm not mean to them at all. I'm just telling you how it is. Maybe you can't handle the truth.
Which one did you work at?
Didn't work my mentor and dad took me to these places to see what it is like inside and what happens. Even asylums. While they sat down and talk. Ill listen and learn. When some people was younger the only answer was suicide until we had people to guide them in the right path. With prisoners they can recover and function in society if there someone to show them how to function. Show them the door. Im not looking at any other countries because we do shit differently and seen more stuff than other countries. They can recover its really hard for us to come out of a situation.
You were sentenced to prison?
No i went to learn and study the people in prison and what it is like. I didn't get the full effect only part cause im not in it 24/7
Where I worked they had to attend manditory drug treatment classes and they hated it. They would much rather be watching TV or playing games. I would ask a prisoner what they were going to do when they got out, and most were very honest about it. One guy just flat out told me that the first thing he was going to do was "cook up a batch."I'm not criticizing these people, because I've talked and worked with thousands of them. I've had prisoners ask me if I can extend their time in prison, because they didn't want to leave. That's the part I'm trying to explain, here. But I see some stupid people criticizing me for telling it how it is. Freedom doesn't work for everyone. Along with freedom comes a lot of responsibility. Some people just aren't equiped for that responsibility, and they're greatful to have a home in prison.
Please ignore what he said i just want you to speak freely, you clearly have the experience instead of someone viewing other on they're phone. Your actually taking action and i would love if you speak more and don't let the petty comments get to u.
Is there any type of ways to help these people function or see the light in life. Instead of escaping and running away from something that traumatized them
If your question would have had these three options:1. rehabilitation2. punishment3. alternative societyI would have picked, alternative society. We had one prisoner who was getting close to releasing. My friend, Larry, asked him if he was excited to go back into society. The prisoner got VERY angry, and said: "Prison IS a society, it's just different than YOUR society."That's my only point. It's hard for me to explain this stuff to people who haven't experienced the prison system. So when I talk about it, people just think I'm cold-hearted. I'm really not at all. I just understand how the felons think. They get offended when you try to fix them, because they don't want that. Freedom absolutely terrifies them.
I get it. Thank you.
Where I live, it gets VERY cold in the winter. (a lot of places are like that)If you are homeless, and the shelters are all full, they will turn you away. Your choices then become; freeze to death or commit a crime. If I were in that position, I'd commit a non-violent crime. You will then be kept warm, fed and well cared for. So in that scenario; freedom = death. (and a miserable death, at that)The problem is; where I live, incarceration costs about $50,000 per prisoner, per year. What's the solution? Find and kill the manufacurers of Meth, Cocaine and Heroin. If you could do that, the prisons would be nearly empty. Problem solved.
Wrong pink anon I live with my fiancée
@HeyThere94 Give her my condolences for living with a dunce.
Texas, a conservative state in America is leading the way in rehabilitation. I'm confused why they'd be so stupid to start experimenting with rehabilitation?
@Oram52 Don't feel bad, a lot of people experience confusion.
Take a burgler who robbed or a gangbanger who ganbanged both 1st time offenders who did whay 5because they had no opportunity, get them a GED, teach them a trade that can be used. Tellthem they that what they did was wrong but they can do more and they can change and they likely will. If you teach them a trade to live by and show them the error of their ways, they can easily become and probably will become hardworking citizens who DO pay taxes and can help others not make their mistakes.Now the flipside of that are people like rapists, child molestors, serial killers, who should be thrown away.There are two types of these peopleThe ones who we can turn into productive members of society.And those that are irredeemable
Rehab because i don't believe fighting evil with evil makes the world any better.
Have an opinion?
I think it depends on the prisoner, their sentence, and their crime.
Always rehab when possible. The countries with the lowest crime rates use these methods.
rehabilitation in prison is a joke put a crowd of bad people together and rehabilitate what a joke
That's the punishment bit. There is no rehab. Without rehab, just kill them all.
Rehabilitation because that is much better and more effective than punishment.
Rehabilitation. Those who can't be rehabilitated should be used for scientific experimentation.
I think they should do community service or labor their jobs Americans don’t wanna do.
In the long term, this would be better for society. What incentive is there for people to get better if they spend the rest of their lives being punished? Plus this is what makes violent criminals even more violent, and it makes prison a dangerous place because there are a bunch of people who are violent and aren't afraid to be violent because they know they have nothing to lose. In their mind, their life is already over. Prison is filled with people doing life sentences, they don't care if they get in trouble over killing someone in prison.This isn't just for the prisoner's benefit but also for those that go to prison for less violent crimes. They end up in danger because they're placed in an environment where they are vulnerable to getting attacked.
If you can't do the time don't do the crime. ;)
Rehabilitation as much as possible.
Both are important
The penal system is designed to do both.
A one-word snarky reply is useless. The intent and design of the criminal justice system is to punish convicted offenders, rehabilitate them and return them to society, and send a deterrent message - whether anyone likes or agrees with it is moot. That’s the way it is.
Depends on what the crime is
Both, but maybe more rehab.
What function does punishment serve?
Rehab helps punishment doesn’t
Prisons don't work.
More on the rehab side
Because rehab gives the prisoner a second chance !
Because you are proud.
Rehab. People deserve the chance to become better.
Pedophiles will never change
Its hard for someone to change if what they like is wrong and they will go to jail right away if they speak about it. Pedophiles hold it in and people are not mind readers. They can but how if you can't talk about it
Depends on the crime and the prisoner
They need to remove most right. I personally think. Sure give them computer time to learn the law and their case give more time for learning a life skill. Not for dating not for chat lines or for emails outside of the case. People don't fear prison cause most thing its easy go there and get free food free medical free nearly everything the only but your self. Jail or prison is meant for people who have caused a death and so on. Yours rewarding them with everything you can get in the real world besides being able to get it your self.
If your a sex offender, complete and barbaric punishment. For most other things probably rehab with a dash of punishment.
Doing things for punishment is toxic. We should focus on rehabilitation.
I think both actually
Rehab and programs after getting out. America is the worst system and pay a lot for it. Reason why we have more people in prison then other countries is because of guns.
America prisons are outdated. Real rehab and training is needed like other top countries which are successful at it. We still do punishment more and then over 65% of prisoners come back. Also, society does not forgive even after person served their time and many cannot get jobs so they turn back to crime. People think if someone been in prison they must be violent murderers. haha Most are not violent at all.
Ticket failure, misdemeanor that got out of hand somehow, falsely accused, etc
Welp girls be downvoting people who chooses rehabilitation but deny the fact that guys get longer prison sentences than girls for the same crime they do.
Focus more on punishment
Rehabilitation. The damage is done. Wasting resources on "punishing" the aggressors serves no purpose and won't un-kill or un-rape anyone. Instead, the criminal justice system should orient its policies to the goal of milking whatever societal contribution it can out of the aggressors.
Rehabilitation because punishment does not work. Countries like US and UK that concentrate on punishment have huge recidivism rates and about 80% of offenders reoffend after they are released. But countries like Norway that concentrate on rehabilitation only have about 30% reoffending rate.
Depends on the crime and the criminal. For non violent offenders rehab can turn them into productive citizens when they get out.
it should all be about rehabilitation. They're gonna be released back into society eventually, so why wouldn't we want them to be the best people they can be? This is why I like the idea of having them do hard work while in prison. Not just hang out lifting weights. Hard work teaches values and respect. Something a lot of criminals need in their lives.
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