I think it might have some beneficial outcomes, but ultimately there's a better solution which includes proper enforcement of background checks and putting more stringent limitations on what kind of firearms and accessories can be purchased by civillians. Im a kentucky girl. I fucking love guns. I own a mossberg 500 that i deer and dove hunt with, and a marlin.22 for target shooting, so im not coming from a place of ignorance when i say that some guns are designed for certain purposes and that design makes them inherently more dangerous and unnecessary for civillian use.I think concealable firearms like pistols (which account for the vast majority of gun violence) should be illegal for civillian use. This isn't the wild west, unless you're backpacking through bear country you dont need to be strapped with that kind of portable lethality. You dont need to be able to shoot someone at a moments notice at the fucking dollar store. If you were forced to carry around a long rifle on your way to go shoot someone, there's a much greater chance you'd be stopped and apprehended because its obvious you have a gun"But criminals will just get them anyway." Thats why we pay taxes. Looking at you law enforcement👀 its your job to fix that.
There needs to be more restrictions in the US for sure. The "right to bare arms" rule should be re-written for sure (I know it's not a rule, but I forget what it's called). Like, it should be "everyone has the right to bare arms, as long as there's a reasonable purpose behind using them". That way, there's less school shootings or shootings anywhere. There also needs be mental checks on people wanting to buy a gun. Like, before they have to go to an actual store, they need to take a class on how to use them, and right before they finish the class, they need to go to the doctors to take a medical test to see if they're sanely sound to use one. If not, the doctor can do a write up saying "please do not allow this person to buy a gun" with proof of their test. And also, when a person goes to buy a gun, they have to have ID on them to see if they're old enough. And since you have to be 21 to drink in the US, the age to be able to buy should be 21 as well. That's just my opinion though.
I hate the culture of guns to my core but an all out ban is too much. People get off killing someone no questions asked under owning a gun. i believe it should be the highest standard of responsibility in people's hands and accountability of actions made with a gun in hand. I hate the mutual assured destruction approach to interaction with people. I also hate the right to fight tyranny argument. At this point you are the tyranny with a gun suppressing rights from people who don't. I live in an open cary state, Alaska. I've seen a guy pulling a gun for getting a $10 tool stolen in a grocery store. Police get called and the whole situation turns into a hostage situation. Once a killing machine gets introduced there is zero room for error, but people want to be the "good guy with a gun". So the whole thing turns into a shit show. No room for error and the situation gets escalated exponentially. The culture of the whole thing is ass backwards. Our war hawk government with invested intrest in giving guns to war torn countries have been biting our ass as much as we bite our own ass. It's all apart of profit motivation for gun manufacturers.
The answer isn't outlawing guns.People who are intent on hurting people will find a way.You need to hit the cause of the violence where it starts.Law abiding people are not committing these crimes.Bad people won't be stopped by laws that ban guns.Banning guns, will only leave the law abiding defenceless.The answer:Education and responsibility.People need to be educated, and understand weapons, and how and when to use them. They should also be taught how to handle their own emotions and problems.People need to understand responsibility, and stop trying to blame acts of evil on everything accept the cause for the sake of their own motives.It's the person behind the gun, and not the gun.This person could acquire gun illegally, or they could use other options. I'm sure if someone was motivated, they could figure out other means to kill.
Bad people will murder people otherwise so murder should be legal cause bad people will murder people regardless. Sounds like a well thought out idea...
Have an opinion?
Guns seem to cause more problems than they solve.
Absolutely not. Even as a guy who supports gun control I would never ban firearms. I have a mini 9mm. I strongly support self defense and protecting yourself. Even though I know it's unlikely to ever be used and I don't agree with it being carried on your person. It's just not worth the risk and the idea of a "good guy with a gun" doesn't work in real life because who is the bad guy and who is the good guy. Especially when the police arrive. And we use guns to justify certain behavior. It increases the likelihood of pulling it out needlessly, which has been documented. My thing is mental eval, basic training course and background check.
NO... There are some countries that have outlawed guns for civilians and look how those civilians are treated now. Do you want just anyone that has a gun to come into your house and harm your family or take your property. Sure they have machetes but that does nothing against a firearm. Say that guns are outlawed in the US. The only people that will have them will be police and military and CRIMINALS. Do you think a criminal is going to give up a gun.. the only way that is happening is after he is dead. Criminal is breaking into your house. You call the cops and they are 10 mins out. For every thing else 10 mins is not a lot of time. However it dont take 10 mins to kill an unarmed person. It's a dumb idea all the way around to outlaw guns. In my opinion those who want this should be institutionalized. I have never needed a gun to defend myself but I dont want to need one and not have one.
Here's the glaring problem with your argument. 1 - what country has the most gun violence in the world?2 - what country has the biggest population of prisoners?3 - why does every country in the world have a lower amount of guns?4- What country produces the most guns?5- who is the most powerful lobby group in America?6 - Why is the Republican party pro-gun?7- Why have gun crimes in the US reached an all-time high?
Do you own a gun?
@Guardian45, your points are invalid. The U. S. ranks 63rd in gun related homicides compared to other countries.In 2010, CDC data counted 11,078 gun homicide deaths, compared with 18,253 in 1993. The 2010 rate has remained fairly stable.Murder rates in America’s cities appear to be falling. On Tuesday, the Brennan Center for Justice published an analysis of annual FBI crime data that concluded the murder rate in America’s 30 largest cities dropped 3.1 percent in 2017, and projected a decrease of about 6 percent in 2018.
@Guardian45 facts don't matter to these people... the thought of a scary black man crossing their path ensures they need a penile substitute
@JustWorthlessMe, I never heard a more idiotic comment. How hateful!You really believe that's why close to 100 million American citizens - men and women of every race - see value in the right to own firearms if they so choose? You're the one who appears to be so afraid of scary black men that you want to disarm them by force. But you'll hide in your room while a proxy army of militarized police serve as the balls that you lack.
No I don't think so. Someone broke into my parent's house high with a gun a couple years ago when I was at college, and my mom who doesn't know how to use a gun was home alone. If the neighbor hadn't heard yelling and come over with their gun then I don't want to think about what could have happened. As it is the guy's in jail now for several charges and one of them is possession of illegal drugs, which we know he was stupidly high on because the police tested him that night.He had illegal drugs so if the gun was illegal why wouldn't he still have had that? The only difference would have been our neighbor being unarmed and only being able to call the police, who took almost an entire 20 minutes to get there.
I know you'll disagree but I'm an honest guy so I'll give an honest answer. I can only talk about my country, and I'm glad guns are outlawed, I just wished we'd have better knife control as well. Too many youth's are killing each other and whether that's due too overt machismo, poverty, lack of opportunities, gang culture etc, then that's what the focus should be, not necessarily what they are arming themselves with but if we can't find a solution short term lets remove their weapons. That's my serious answer for the week.
Of course not. Drugs are illegal and people (namely criminals) still get their hands on drugs. Murder is illegal and people still murder, kinder eggs are illegal ffs (or at least they were) and people still got their hands on them. It doesn't matter how illegal you make something people will still get their hands on it. The problem with making stuff illegal is that only criminals will get their hands on it. In other words people who don't care about the law will still get their hands on guns aaand... since you should never bring a knife to a gun fight basically all law abiding citizens are screwed whether or not they call the police. Cause as everyone knows... when you're seconds away from danger the police are only minutes away.
They can't. It is in the USA constitution, it is a right for us to be able to defend ourselves. The entire constitution would have to be amended for that. Also, guns have existed for hundreds of years and million of them already exist. What's the problem with them now. People are more evil now and society is producing more mentally messed up people. That's the root of the problem... evil people. Why doesn't society see about fixing messed up people and to stop producing so many, messed up evil people instead of the symptom... some weapon/tool. This wasn't an issue in the 40's, 50's and 60's... the nation was full of guns then... the guns didn't change, what did? The corruptness of today's people. We produce more people that are capable of just murdering complete strangers. I don't think people realize how many messed up people we output now. Unless the constitution is amended you can't just "outlaw" guns.
As long as the NRA and the government favor guns over human lives, regardless whether the are children's lives or elderly people or as an excuse to practice ethnic cleansing with them, then guns will never be outlawed.There is way too much money at stake here and what are a couple of 100,000 deaths a year for the US government to want or have interest to abolish the weapons?Money talks, mainly in the upper layers of corrupt governments and the US is certainly not an exception but rather the one promoting legal murders by its citizens.You allow guns to the populace, you automatically endorse murders of your citizens. But then, who cares really if the government does not!
I think they should, but if that happens, then the army/government should be also deprived from the right. Personally, I see nothing wrong with owning a gun as long as the person is mentally stable and has the training to use a gun. Otherwise, I’d prefer them outlawed.
I don't think we need to ban guns, I just think we need to put guns against the heads of liberals and force them to look at gun crime statistics broken down by race.
we get it... you're a sad little bigot who is terrified of black people where's the graph concerning mass shooters over the last 20 years in the US?
No. That doesn't mean bans (which are always partial, there are always some people with guns in a country) don't work elsewhere.There should be more serious regulation, particularly for people with even arrests for things like domestic violence or anger management issues. (At least until the situation is resolved in court.)There's no way these guys should be allowed anywhere near a gun, for example.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzANgFp0so
No definitely not. We don't live in a utopia and there are bad people out there and they'll get guns either way. If my house was broken into or there was a shooting what would I defend myself with? If I go at them with a knife this is what's literally going to happen
I agree and thumbs up for the Indiana Jones scene. :D
No, the rise of mass knife attacks around shows the problem isn't guns, its people. Do I believe we should outlaw guns? No, definitely not, but I do think that we should outlaw guns that don't exactly effect people who hunt, such as AK47's, AB-3's, Amogh carbine's, etc, etc, etc... Because if we outlaw all guns then we will need another way to handle the population of animals such as moose, deer, you get the point.
All long guns combined account for something like 5% of all firearm related homicides. Those so-called "military-style assault rifles" are a subset of that or maybe 3%.The Gun Control Lobby isn't trying to ban those guns in order to reduce gun violence. They are going after them because it's an easier sell than to suggest banning handguns and other types of firearms. Once the precedent is set to ban some guns, it will be easier to continue banning more and more and more. And banning guns, not saving lives, is the Gun Control Lobby's goal.
The rest of the world is gonna clamor for it until it happens, and shortly after it does, they'll be crying.Had an argument with a Korean woman a while back. She said we didn't need guns because South Korea doesn't allow guns and they're just fine. Talk about short-sighted. She didn't know what to say when I told her that her country was doing fine because they're protected. By Americans. With guns.
Not completely outlawed, but we need serious regulations. Because for every responsible person that takes the time to learn how to safety use a firearm in self defense or defense of others, there's at least 5,000 idiots who think they live in an action movie and they could always stop the bad guy with their gun. We've also got way too many places where people can get a gun without knowing how to use it at all.
Most sensible thing I've heard so far.
Absolutely not, not because it would contradict the constitution, but because it makes no sense regardless of it. If you are in terminal danger during a home invasion which could include 3 or 4 goons, how else would you be able to defend yourself? You don't have to be the presidents personal sniper to know standard marksmanship and safety practices. Knives can be even more dangerous because they require less skill but can be far more devastating. I would rather be on the receiving end of a gun than a knife.
Hell no.I value my constitutional rights. People will still get guns illegally through other ways. All it'll do is stop the honest and good citizens from being able to defend themselves. Not to mention having this right also makes it so we can protect our other rights.
There was a senseless shooting a long time ago in Australia when guns were permissible, so they changed the law and banned them.There have been no senseless shootings in Australia since then.
@OlderAndWiser I'm not sure about that chart, but I'm talking about shootings like in America where a gunman just walks into a crowded place and opens fire on all the civilians for no reason. That chart is probably talking about gang violence and shootings between two people who had some altercation or dispute.
“While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
If you and another guy get killed but it's just you two, it's not quite as bad?
Of course not.. nobody really does... that is just the story conservatives tell gullible dim-witted gun nuts... kinda like how the dreaded black guy was supposed to take all of the guns but, instead, made it easier for triggered white boys to become mass shooters
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No. The only thing gun laws do is keep guns out of the hands of people who obey laws. Those people aren't the problem. Criminals will still acquire guns even if the law says they can't.
That's not true. If you get stopped for running a red light, and you've got an illegal gun in your car, you can be arrested and charged.
What law-abiding citizen has an illegal gun in their car?
@goaded: Dude, you're pass the age were looking stupid isn't cute anymore. Criminals don't give a rip about laws, that's why they are criminals. Drugs are illegal yet criminals still carry them and sell them etc among other crimes.
@Straight_Shooter That's the whole point! You want to avoid the ciminals with guns!@Hispanic-Cool-Guy And you're old enough to understand that the simple posession of an illegal object should be a crime, whatever it is. Letting some asshole into a hotel room with dozens of AR-15s and bump stocks is a bad idea.
@goaded: I didn't say it shouldn't be a crime. My point is harden criminals don't give a rip about laws at all and never will. Zero. They are going to the grave like that; they can't be reformed.
A full auto is a felony
Fuck no!!! What for? So we can be completely powerless if we choose to overthrow a corrupt government? I'm kinda surprised nobody's done so in the past 50 years!! Except for Trump, Regan and MAYBE Carter, we've had nothing BUT corrupt people in charge since LBJ took over for Kennedy!!Any psychotic asshole that wants to shoot up the countryside can get guns in a heartbeat if he needs them so, banning them here won't do ANY good at all!!
Trump, not corrupt? LMFAO.
@goaded Yeah, Trump's NOT corrupt!! Hitlary certainly is!!
Fuck no they shouldn't... even if they did manage to scoop up every single gun in the country then the Mexican cartels would just buy a couple cnc machines and start cranking out their own... its impossible to ban something there's a demand for... only thing they can do is make it cost a little more
What's your favorite gun?
That decision was made hundreds of years ago and has prevailed since, yes, guns are allowed. No just allowed but a guaranteed Constitutional Right. You can easily get killed in London just as in Dallas. At least in Dallas you could defend yourself if needed, that’s your choice. My defense, my choice, lol. Legal gun owners are very rarely the ones committing murders, it is those with illegal guns. There are statistics on that. And just like illegal drugs, they will always be available.
You can keep your hands off my guns You can stay out of my body as well I own three guns
Absolutely not! If one analyzes all the available information, the idea makes no sense. What we SHOULD do is start by thoroughly analyze all the factors that lead to violent behavior.
Guns don't kill people... The people kill people. Its a tool just like anything else. However I do agree that their are plenty of idiots that shouldn't own them... My stance is guns are alright.. Stupid people with guns are terrifying.
Only Americans can decide that. I can only say I've seen gun control work, and I've also seen people living in tyrannies wishing they had guns. It really depends on where you live and how you look at it.
Naaah, keep your guns, if I was a Yankee I would have them too.
That's what the New York team is called.
And male feminist too.. @monkeynuttsTreat woman like men, don't open doors, gross
I got in trouble for not opening a door once.
Cocaine, crystal meth, crack, heroin etc are illegal but people still use those. People would use other things as weapons such as: vehicles, basball bats, golf clubs, crowbars, hammers, knives, screwdrivers, wrenches, metal pipes, homemade explosives etc. Less people would be harmed and or killed at a time but still.
I think they should be far harder to get. People who can demonstrate a need should be able to apply for a license I suppose but I don't envy the US's lax gun laws from over here (UK).
No I don’t think they should be banned 99.99% of gun owner are responsible why should we let the.01% fuck it up for ever one else, gun are essential to defense hunting and in places like Alaska just walking down the street because of the massive animals that live there
No people should have the right to defend themselves
As someone from the UK I beileve Americans have a very unhealthy view on guns. Ok I get it's in your constitution but when that was written you could only fire from a gun once before it had to be reloaded! Pretty sure if the founding fathers could see the killing power of an automatic rifle they might have thought twice about it. Ok hand gun to defend your home with fair enough but no one needs a fucking machine gun to defend there home! And if you do you have problems go to the poilce
I think guns per se are not a problem. The problem is the regulation (or lack of) of guns. Any psycho can purchase a gun... and not just a revolver or pistol, you see huge weapons that should only be used in the military.
Yes and no, they are dangerous id prefer not to have them but it they were outlawed they would iilegally sold anyway :(There's nothing wrong with the sport but needless killing is not a good thing
I dont think outlawed but I do think the laws of ownership should be updated
no. if you take away the guns from regular people only criminals and those who shouldn't have them will have them. also even if my some magic wish all the guns in the world people would go back to killing each other with swords
Not possible. It isn't in the governements power to outlaw them per the constitution.
Well white men continue to commit these hate crimes and mass shootings and the world acts like only a black man is a danger. Black on black crime is usually street gangs. When white men commit these mass shootings innocent people lose their lives
Mass shooting is not as common as black on black crime. You do know that these street gangsters also have families who can also get in the crossfire , families who care for them , who are traumatized by the death of their loved ones So are you saying it's ok for a black thug to kill another black thug but a cop shouldn't do it. Are you literally saying white lives are worth more than black lives?
Stop pretending to be a victim in this fucked world we are all monster , we just love to put the blame and generalize certain people into a category
I believe so because there are so many crazy people who own guns they should at least do a serious background check
🙂can agree to disapree
I don't try to change others. Just respect others believes you don't have to agree with them. People on this site don't seem to understand this
But that’s just my opinion i hate guns
And i think that a lot of times they end up in the wrong hands
Guns are outlawed in the UK and there's probably less than 5 shootings a year in my city
I mean I don't care I'm not in the us but the amount of shootings would drastically fall if you did
How about knife attacks, how are you doing on that... lol, we both know the answer to that don’t we.
You know that tweet Trump re-tweeted about London, mobile.twitter.com/.../1139924010295320576 ?That day made the news because it was unusual.On the same day in NY city (very close to the same population), there were 4 gun incidents, one death and one injury.In the first two weeks of June, there were 108 gun incidents, 19 deaths and 66 injured. (I don't know a source for knife attacks in the US.) London had 94 homicides in the whole year (so, about 2 a week).
Except violence in general, including gun violence, exploded in the UK after the latest round of gun laws was passed. It's so bad now that London is more dangerous than NYC. And the UK is now trying to outlaw knives because of the spike in knife violence.When people have no means of self defense, they are sitting ducks. Criminals can go about their business unmolested.
That is an unfounded belief.
Sorry, I was replying to the comment, "the amount of shootings would drastically fall if you did "
@Lliam "Except violence in general, including gun violence, exploded in the UK after the latest round of gun laws was passed." Source?"It's so bad now that London is more dangerous than NYC."That's just not true, at least when it comes to murders.For two months at the beginning of 2018, the murder rate in London exceeded NY, but for the first six months of that year, London had 80 murders to New York's 141.
@goaded Proof that prohibiting gun ownership in the UK did not make anyone safer.www.BBC.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
@Lliam That would be the two months at the beginning of 2018 I just talked about and explained that the first half of the year was safer in London, despite that.And the only reason NYC is in spitting distance of the murder rate in London is because of decades of impressive improvements (there's a theory that removing lead from petrol made a huge difference after a generation).en.wikipedia.org/.../Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis
@goaded, It's convenient to compare overall rates of gun violence in the UK and US while omitting the fact that knife crime increased 22% and gun crime rose 11% after the new gun control laws were instituted. Those facts certainly call into question the efficacy of gun bans and restrictions on the right of honest citizen's to defend themselves.It shows that support for the Gun Control Lobby's agenda can't be justified by objective facts and reason. Support begins with ideology and then attempts to rationalize that dogmatic belief by various means. It requires cherry picking data, omitting information and exaggerating. In the end, support depends upon emotion, not reason.
@Lliam This is the second time you've made this claim, but not backed it up. Which law? What year? Where are the stats to back up your claim of increased violence?"Except violence in general, including gun violence, exploded in the UK after the latest round of gun laws was passed.""knife crime increased 22% and gun crime rose 11% after the new gun control laws were instituted"
@goaded, Oh, I pulled those stats out of my ass.Actually I found them by using Google. I assume you've heard of that.Are you unaware of the rise in violence in the UK? I think this is where I got the statswww.theguardian.com/.../surge-in-knife-offences-fuels-rise-in-violentIn the 1980s the UK banned semiautomatic and pump shotguns. In 1997, it virtually banned handgun ownership. So you need a source for that, too?So why the increase in violence? I guess it must be a lack of gun laws. And now they are working on banning knives because the gun laws worked so well. The fact that criminals know that it's illegal for citizens to protect themselves has nothing to do with it. Here's another link to a chart on violence in the UKhttps://www.BBC.com/news/uk-46984559I know, I know. If you believe that banning guns will reduce violence, this is hard to believe. Just like the fact that the rate of gun related homicides dropped almost 50% in the U. S. from a peak in 1993, despite a concurrent binge in gun purchases. B... b... but more guns cause more gun violence, right? Actually, no.Here's the proofwww.pewsocialtrends.org/.../
@Lliam Well, you may as well have done. "Crime stayed about the same" is not a news story, so of course you find the most dramatic changes in headlines.There's no "cause and effect" between the laws you talk about and increases in violence. Firearm control laws have been around in the UK for decades, you haven't been able to just go out and buy any kind of gun since 1968, so that's unlikely to have been the cause of an increase from 2016-2017 (same for the 1988 or 1997 legislation - if your supposed cause is 20 years before the effect, it would have to be something like low level lead poisoning in children).Why the increase in violence? Maybe the 19% decrease in police funding between 2010 and 2018? fullfact.org/.../That BBC article states: "It is the the highest total for such crimes since 2007." - which means it was *lower* in the decade between those two years, and that the 2018 number, while bad, was not exceptional.Restricting guns reduces gun violence and murder (and, for that matter, suicide). Who's saying it reduces violence? People still get angry or depressed, they're just less likely to kill someone.
@goaded, so you admit that "There's no 'cause and effect' between the laws you talk about and increases in violence." That was my point. Thank you.
@Lliam Nice try.Your claim was: "violence in general, including gun violence, exploded in the UK after the latest round of gun laws was passed. It's so bad now that London is more dangerous than NYC. And the UK is now trying to outlaw knives because of the spike in knife violence."None of that was true.
No. They should just be better regulated. And first time gun buyers should have to go through a more rigorous vetting process and be required to take a gun safety course.
No all Man and Woman has the right to bear armsunless their deemed dangerous , mentally ill , beenin prison for killing someone and got off on parole.
It's in the constitution...The second amendment is a right and privilege... I like my freedom , my country , my guns , my family and above all else God. I have this to say about it Molan Labe
Yes but when that was written guns could only fire one shot before needing to be reloaded and it was implemented so that Americans should defend there homes against the British. Am fairly curtain anyone with some common sense can think ok maybe this law that worked when guns could fire once maybe won't work with every mad fucker being able to get an automatic rifle
@someginger There's also gun laws you know...Background checks at state and federal levels , do they need to work on better background checks , yes they do... I own a handful of firearms and like them , am I a gun nut to a certain extent yes. Am I a psycho , no... I have a handgun permit and carry everywhere , the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun...
Have you shot anyone or seen someone get shot
@needadvice1245 I'm former law enforcement, military police...I came close once , had to draw my weapon only once... My personal weapon , I've only had to draw it once. Someone approached my car at a stoplight after midnight asking for help with money , mind you he approached my car with hands in his pockets... he backed off when my.44 came in view
Only way to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.Everytime one of you yank fucks say this I Wana throttle you
@someginger some quick facts for you... the intent was that civilians could stop a tyrannical government from oppressing the people again. It was only because the revolutionaries had access to guns that they could get rid of the British. US citizens are only allowed semi-automatic guns, not automatic. There are a few automatic grandfathered in but they cost over $50,000. It is just semi-automatic that people have access to which is over 100 year old technology. The rifles that get all of the attention, AR15s, are very rarely used in gun violence but they get the attention of the media. It is handguns, semi-automatic handguns used by gangbangers who generally kill a competitor selling drugs. These shooters use illegal guns and just like illegal drugs they are going to be available no matter the laws... just look at Chicago with their strict gun laws.
They outlawed heroin, cocaine & meth, so no only outlaws have heroin, cocaine & meth.
I think owning a machine gun should be mandatory and it should be mandatory to carry it with you at all times
Not judging, your opinion, but have you ever shot any full-auto, 'machine guns'?
I have shoot almost every kind of gun I know there extremely hard to control at full auto but if a few extra religious people die it's no wieght of my back
Yeah, but Yikes!! Not going to win supporters with the thing about religious people dying!! :(What have you shot?
Barrett 50 cal sniper rifle 300 magnium45 70 Winchester level action M 16Ak 47 22 lever action30 30 lever action 45 pistol Dessert eagle 38 snub nose pistol 12 gauge pump action 10 gauge AA 12 fully automatic shotgun M2 machine gun and probably more but that's all I remember
Favorites? Among the automatics, not the levers (Good CHOICE though!! Levers are UNIQUELY AMERICAN!!) Likes or dislikes of each?
My dad was a special forces sniper who is no longer alive so I personally love the challenge of seeing just how far I can accurately reach out and hit a target as for the full auto I have to say the AK 47 because no matter if its wet or covered in sand or if you drove over it it will always work. I'm Canadian by the way
@codyccccc, and more cccccc, and more cccccc: :):) Loved your reply! Sorry for the loss of your father. Mine also served, and has passed.Nice to know some Canadians can think things through, and understand the time and place, the need, and use, for weapons!I liked your post about accuracy, and among my favorites are OLD ONES!! WWI and WWII: Springfield M1903, the M-1 Garand, OF COURSE! Swiss K-31, German K-98, the Russian Mosin-Nagants in various versions!! Shooting targets, precision, with iron sights, at 100 meters. A good marksman can learn any weapon, and hit the target, at distance. That was back when the armies taught soldiers to aim, identify the target, and fire, not just spray an area!!
No, but there should be more regulation on who is permitted to have one and what kinds the public can purchase.
Nope. I think the government should passed them out at the age of 18 and join the Military. Besides if everyone armed. People will think twice about committing crimes with guns
There's never shootings in the country we get guns young so it's not taboo
Yes. My family are rasied around guns. Kids ho hunting as young a 5. They don't get a gun. But its pArt of learning process. When my neice was 12 and won the sharp shooter badge on scouts.
No... did you know Norway has the highest gun violence per capita yet they banned guns? The USA is 26th on the list of highest gun violence per capita
Oh, FFS, that was one horrific incident in 70 years. That Lott guy is a complete asshole.Does Europe have more mass shootings than the USA? ↗
Ya but since the USA has way more people statistically they will have more shootings but the per capita # is most important to know about gun safety, did the strict no gun laws protect those people who died in Norway, no
How many mass shootings have there been in Norway since 2013? None.How many mass shootings were there in Norway in 2012? One.How many mass shootings were there in Norway in 1946-2011? None.Washington DC's mass shooting rate is 2.652, well above Norway's 1.888 (which is only if you count any eight year period including the one event).How many "good guys with guns" were there in Las Vegas during the mass shooting there? How much good did they do?
Well the math works out if you realise the USA has a population 1000x the size of Norways that of course there is gonna be more people who are fucked up enough to start a mass shooting hence more numbers but still per capita Norway and 25 other countries have worse mass shooting stats per capita than the state, all with stricter gun control, it's almost like gun control literally stops nothing... because it does
I take it you didn't read the question I linked to.When Lott compared the US as a whole to European countries, he was including all the states that didn't have a mass shooting and excluding all the countries that didn't, and that skews the numbers.Oh, and his time period just happened to include the one Norwegian attack and the coordinated multiple shooters terrorist attack in Paris (which almost doubled the number of deaths in Europe by itself). Even after all that, there were still fewer deaths (and fewer incidents) per million in Europe, which has roughly twice the population of the US.
Even if guns were outlawed what makes you think criminals will listen? Drugs such as cocaine and heroin are outlawed yet you still see junkies use it So no I don't guns should outlawed
It's not going to stop anyone who wants one from getting one. Maybe if you outlaw ammunition !! LOL
Seems a little harsh... my lingerie collection is more deadly than that
Unfortunately even if they are people who want to use them to harm will still find away to obtain them
Yeah we should confiscate them, melt them all down, make participation trophies and give them to illegal immigrant transgender kids along with a map to all the nearby safe spaces.
Maybe you should have posted as "FullofHorseshit". Just a total troll crap post!
@JackSmy I'm sorry my comment didn't meet with your high standards of quality. I'll do better next time.
Maybe posting sarcasm, and I didn't get it? Not hating, just think you aren't thinking it through! Confiscate 300 million weapons, in the US!! I guess you had to be joking! Sorry dude! :):)
@JackSmy Yes, my comment was sarcasm ;)
Absolutely not. I'm a responsible gun owner and have been since I was 18 years old. And I know it's hard to believe but I've never used it irresponsibly or let my childen have access to my gun.
Ban alcohol, alcohol is responsible for numerous deaths yearly especially young teens and young adults. Oh wait alcohol was banned and how did that turn out?
Because banning alcohol went so well before
No, of course not.Live in rural America and you will understand why.
No without our Thundersticks the government would go corrupt we already had this happen before WWII Vets in Tennessee believe this was like the 1960?
The only thing that should be outlawed anywhere is initiation of force. Simply possessing a firearm is not an initiation of force.
The USA is beyond that point so no. It could even do more harm than good.
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