Venezuela has the highest homicide rate in the world and some say the strictest gun laws in the world.According to the FBI crime statistics :Mass Public Shootings keep occurring in Gun-Free Zones: 94% of attacks since 1950mass stabbings, and car attacks frequently kill more people than even the deadliest mass shootings in the United States. For example :China (2014) — Mass stabbing: 31 deaths, 143 injuries;Its totally not the knives, naahhh.You dont even really hear about most stabbings.Mass stabbings severely destroy the confidence of the people.Its totally easier to get a gun, you know with the gun control laws than it is with knives.
And yes. The knives used in mass stabbings were not designed as anything other than to kill people.
But even though thats the case, BAN ALL KNIVES. Good luck in buttering your bread.
You’re comparing America to south America 😂😂🤦🏻♂️ Thats when you know its really bad in usa Hahah
WRONG. I said the entire world. Nice way to straw-man though.The only one comparing america with the south america would be YOU.
When you have to straw-man to make your pathetic case, that's when you've lost.HAHA.It's a pathetic case because even if i WAS comparing those things, you dont get to just disregard other statistics from other countries just because its "a different country."LOL.
This is how sad that generic argument is. (I said generic because im not stating this is your point)Since other countries dont matter...The deaths in any other countries dont matter and we should completely disregard them as people.The only deaths that matter are the ones in the country that i live, because reasons.
Bro. South america is not a first world country 😂😂Completely different demographics. They aren't in the same league hahaNot relevant stats sorry But i do agree america has gun violence similar to shitty south American countries. Its actually sandwhiched right between themIts so bad! Imagine. Gun violence equal to south america wow
Bro. The united states homicide rate is ranked 111th of ALL countries in the entire world.The fact that other countries are or are not industrialized is NOT AN ARGUMENT.Not an argument. Sorry.LOLOL
Compared to first world rich countries america is a shit hole thenDo you agree?
And by the way Venezuela is considered a newly industrialized country. It is a socioeconomic classification applied to several countries around the world by political scientists and economists. They represent a subset of developing countries whose economic growth is much higher than other developing countries; and where the social consequences of industrialization, such as urbanization, are reorganizing society. And of that other 111 countries many of them are newly industrialized.Your argument is false.
😂😂Hey if it makes you feel better. Ok america has less gun violence than some south American countries Ok lol rofl
Venezuela was ranked at 183.50 percent according to industrial trade economics.
Okay if it makes you feel better that America has less MURDER than 111 other countries in the entire world.LOL.
I care about murder, you are just afraid of guns. Is it because they are loud and it makes you pee your pants?
Sure. And then that means other first world countries are even better. So reletively speaking 111 is still shit compare the better places 😂
If those south American countries have removed all the guns from the people and they are still getting murdered? If you are okay with that, then fine.HAHAHAHA.
No its because you americans can't handle guns! You dont know how toLike kids in a candy store playing video games. You dont deserve guns
So you ARE afraid of guns! HAHAHA.Glad you admitted it.
This is you: Im not afraid of cars, I'm just afraid of everyone who drives them!HAHA.
Such a terrible argument. Statistics from one country can't be applied to another because they are from different countries. With that kind of argumentation you must have an iq of a gnat.
And does this claim hold water? "americans can't handle guns! You dont know how to"For this to be accurate, defensive firearm use would have to be much less than offensive firearm use.Is that the case?NO.Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms.FAIL.HAHA.
" And then that means other first world countries are even better. So reletively speaking 111 is still shit compare the better places"WRONG. Thats not what that said at all. Way to not read correctly.
The fact that the united states is ranked 111th is not just because its industrialized, if that were the case you would not see other industrialized countries in that list.The fact that a country is or is not industrialized is irrelevant. Unless you can prove a NECESSARY causal link between industrialized nations and gun crimes, you have nothing.Even if you had a necessary link, what would that mean? Would it mean that gun control laws are effective? No it wouldn't, because even in the united states itself, (because i can't compare any other industrialized country) 94% of mass shootings since 1950 occurred in gun free zones.
Linking gun control effectiveness to industrialized nations is like linking a fart to nuclear explosions.Sure they both smell bad, but i dont know of any one fart that kills that many people.
The united states has the most guns, and also ranked 111th among all countries in the entire world for homicides which includes some other industrialized countries. LET THAT SINK IN.
Ya let this sink in
😂😂 what a joke
According to many statistics a person is about 9000 times more likely to get hit by a nasa space shuttle than they are from a mass shooting. But yes. lets focus on that. Pfft.
Who cares. We’rs not banning space exploration But your toys dont advance human civilization incase our only planet gets destroyedGet outta here with that nonsensical argument lol
Hope you clearly see how we need to take your toys away from you. Look at the other countries Responsible! America. A monkey fest a zooAnother mass shooting in ohio 😂Jokes
1. So what. You are focusing on "Gun" murders. Not "murders." And those are not "mass" shootings. You dont get to talk about mass shootings and then move the goalposts to just "shootings." FAIL.2. Of the 86 countries where we have identified mass public shootings, the US ranks 56th per capita in its rate of attacks and 61st in mass public shooting murder rate. Norway, Finland, Switzerland and Russia all have at least 45 percent higher rates of murder from mass public shootings than the United States. Oh i forgot those countries i just named are not industrialized. HAHAHAHAHAHA.3. You are afraid of mass shootings when you are about 9000 times more likely to die from a nasa space shuttle hitting you. Which proves your fear is a joke.Yes. WHAT A JOKE.HAHAHA.
No we are focusing on gun violence! That number is staggering! All the idiots who show up at a party with a pistol in their back pocket who think they’re the next 50 cent Rofl
England and wales have the most mass stabbings. BAN KNIVES! People from england dont deserve to have knives. They dont know how to use them!You have been destroyed by your own arguments.HAHAHA.
WRONG. Your claim said mass shooting. Moving it to gun violence is moving the goalposts.
Says this: "Another mass shooting in Ohio9 dead just 24 hours after texasIts totally not the guns naahhhYou dont even really hear about most shootingsMass shootings severly destroy the confidence of the people"Then moves the goalposts away from mass shooting.
Your gun violence argument was already destroyed by the number of lives saved by gun defense.Nice fail though.
Oh i forgot its not about total number of lives lost by a thing. Its just about scary guns.If thats the case you dont get to use gun deaths as an argument. The word DEATHS is in there.HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That number is staggering because it dishonestly includes suicide. So nope. not staggering.FAIL AGAIN.
first of all, that NOT gun violence... that GUN DEATHS... and rightfully it should include suicides you weirdo... of course, people are more likely to kill themslves with a gun duhhhh... good point you just made, thanksgun violence can mean getting shot with one bullet in the leg... that isn't included in the deaths, which are already high, but if you conclude incidents like that... pffff forget itits a war zone there
So in one post you argue gun violence, and then post something that appeals to "gun deaths." Thanks for that stupidity.2. In the United States, suicides outnumber homicides almost two to one. 3. You dont get to tell people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. 4. Mixing killing other people and killing themselves in any gun deaths is dishonest. It's especially dishonest when you start the argument with "mass shooting."5. Guns are not the causal link to suicide if they were people would have never killed themselves prior to the invention of guns. Your argument fails.6. Gun violence can also mean NOT getting shot at all! You can get harmed just from the sound of the gun going off! This means stuff like loss of hearing should also be included in this statistic, even ones where people are shooting in gun ranges for fun! Think about it, if a gun accidentally goes off while you are cleaning it and it hurts your ears! OH MY GOD! Thats exactly as horrible as mass shootings and should ABSOLUTELY be included in the same statistics!Your kind of stupid is funny.HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"You dont get to tell people what they can or cannot do with their bodies"You lost all credibility, now I know you are not normal... suicide is illegal foolI can't take you seriously now... would you like to retract that statement? or not?
Yes. Ignore all other refutations. I mean, why not. You've been doing that this whole time.I stand by what i said.1. I did not say it was not illegal.2. In some states, suicide could be treated as a common-law crime. However, in United States v. Hudson, it was ruled that such common-law convictions are not allowed at the federal level.3. Under modern U. S. law, suicide is no longer a crime. Some states, however, classify attempted suicide as a criminal act, but prosecutions are rare, especially when the offender is terminally ill.4. What is legal is not necessarily moral. Do you have a right to tell someone they can or cannot do something with their own body? If you believe so you gun grabbing types are typically pro choice, which would make your ilk hypocrites.
The phrase "you lost all credibility" is used by morons that dont understand logic.Credibility does not matter. What matters is if something is or is not true. 2+2=4 is true even if you learned if off a crackerjack box.Ironically i could say YOU lost all credibility by using that phrase. But im only saying that statement in jest.
so you think people have the right to kill themselves?
My opinion on X does not change X. So it does not matter what my particular opinion is on that.The fact that you would ask my personal views on a subject demonstrates your lack of argumentation and weak positioning.It also shows you have already lost the argument.
I fully expect you to come back with "you're dodging the question." Because thats what idiots do.I am under zero obligation to answer questions when someone has moved the goalposts. I am also under no burden of proof to demonstrate or justifify claim that i not made in one way or another.The fact that its logically irrelevant and would resort to nothing but me arguing from personal incredulity and bias is also a justified reason to not answer it.
sure it does, it shows your lack or morals and ethics which is probably why you love the animal monkey fest of American gun violence and think its totally cool since of course according to you, people should be allowed to shoot themselves legally 😂sorry but I can't even take you seriously now babe...You've had like 5 major shootings in less than 2 weeks, you are in no position to defend your guns...
Moron asks me this : "so you think people have the right to kill themselves? "I dont answer it directly.Then says this: "according to you, people should be allowed to shoot themselves legally"Thats all the proof i need to demonstrate you lost this debate.
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