Yeah but that will fuck up the rest of the planet and other living beings in the process
That's just how it goes I'm afraid, cockroaches and subterranean mammals inherit the earth and if we're lucky, enough of mankind survived to start over. Just natures cycle, like forest fires if you get what I mean?
Yeah, but I prefer to deal with the problem sooner.
Then yeh, war, aggravate a few religions, let them fight it out
Honestly, I don't see all the racism and nazism you are so afraid of apparently.
Medication actually leads to longer livespans which reduces offspring. Thats why in a lot of first world countries the population is shrinking.
lol where are you getting this info?
@pooper89 The New York Times: www.nytimes.com/.../us-birthrate-decrease.htmlPacific Standard: psmag.com/news/the-us-birth-rate-is-still-fallingNCBI Reports:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255510/Vox:www.vox.com/.../fertility-rate-united-states-births-womenForbes Magazine:www.forbes.com/.../#161351862268The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/.../falling-total-fertility-rate-should-be-welcomed-population-expert-saysCBC:www.cbc.ca/.../...pectancy-low-fertility-1.5178957Technically I read it a long time ago. I'm not exactly sure what sources I found it in then. But these are some new sources that say the same thing. :)
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Some of the other responses to this question are worrying, anti-humanists.
Yeah but what about the pillaging of resources and the destruction of the environment linked to that? What about all the waste and pollution we produce?
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Almost okay, then it veers into silliness. Education is important, but not "education about contraceptives". That's just a dogma. The reality, borne out by research, is improving general education AND ECONOMIC STATUS of girls and women, REGARDLESS of whether or not "about contraceptives" is formally included. When young women have a way to make their own money, and it's as good as a young man's opportunity, they'll figure out "contraception" and not marrying the first guy to come along all by themselves."Education about contraceptives" has not proved significantly effective. Improving the status of women has. Once they have their own means of support, there is no need to intentionally supply "education about contraceptives". The women go out and get it for themselves.POWER is what matters.
Then I suppose I should have said AVAILABILITY of birth control. The message still stands
There is no need for governments or other organizations to "provide" anything specifically about contraceptives. When women are educated and economically empowered IN GENERAL, the "contraceptives" issue will be handled by the women, on their own initiative. You have a real fetishization over "contraceptives".
I do agree with you- education is very important. I add contraceptives because no matter how informed someone is (and perhaps even in spite of this), people won't remain chaste. Don't ignore biological functions; adapt them
You are so obstinately refusing to understand REALITY. The countries that have seen downward shifts in reproductive rates NEVER BOTHERED with specifically targeting "contraception" in education. THEY DID NOT NEED TO. Why are you introducing a WASTE OF RESOURCES that will take care of itself once the status of women is improved? Why do you want to waste resources? Are you some kind of dogmatic moron? You sound like a dogmatic moron. "Contraceptive education" is readily available in the USA, and IT DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. The only ones using it are from economic and social strata that are already educated and empowered. The people who have the highest rates of teenage pregnancy DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE of the "education" or "availability".I get it, you're a blind cultist.
Okay, I understand
Yeah but you will fuck up other life forms in the process so isn't it better to do something before this happens?
Absolutely. I'm not suggesting I want this to happen. We're talking about an extinction event here. This is not something we want to happen.
Yeah but 7,5 billions is way too much, especially given how ressource intensive our lives are.
Why these parts of Western countries specifically?
Most populace while being least productive for the country overall.
So it would be all about productivity? Isn't it a bit too simplistic?
We're talking about murder on a global scale, I'm ok with some simplicity.
... wait for it... 😅 Some dominoes are worth the weight... 😉😏😁
Well, there's a problem with that...1.) You're assuming all microbials aren't persistent (in other words, viruses are present that effect the environment in dynamic ways)2.) You're hoping you won't open a can of worms screening for both intelligence and by genetic cross-section (that would backfire horribly; for instance, what if there are factions of different intelligences, and they start "flinging bogeys" at each other; playing "sick the cleaners" on each other, trying to get their rivals killed off, leading to dramatic or drastic environmental change... (dramatic we can take; drastic we should probably try to curb)Intelligence tends to balance itself across healthy and unhealthy DNA alike (otherwise it would get bored); but there is the sequestration/suspension system that should at least be reproduced in core infrastructure support.Use of resources responsibly means a new infrastructure, supporting a new modular farming and landscaping schema (with a market so large it would support large *and* small businesses - which would be the turning point for it to right itself, btw)...Besides that, a population suddenly devoid of their reproductive "rights" removed, with this much porn on the planet? 🤔 I think I'm starting to see the mad genius in this!!! 😅
(Besides, it would be nice to have activity partners to grow more efficient with, rather than this whiplash method)😅
(& I'm tellin' ya: instead of sprawling retirement homes, you should make "voluntary euthanasia theaters", where they can go for dinner & a movie [& mass suicide] in a sensible and enjoyable fashion)... but just limit that to *one*"City of Rebirth" on the planet under a Lagrange point...😉
I do not see what the persistence of microbials has to with any of this and I highly doubt the possibility of factions of different intelligences trying to get rivals killed cause there would only really be 2 fractions - those who pass and those who don't, obviously it would bring riots and dissatisfaction on the losing side but not as drastic as you say cause it's just offspring creation, it's not like they would be treated as the second class by the government. What do you mean by activity partners?Accessible euthanasia would be very beneficial indeed but I don't think too many people would opt for it, at least not enought for it alone to curb the overpopulation issue.
@morimeme1 Well, in an environment rich in viral matter, when you're working with biology, that actually matters *alot*... (about the difference between a Jungle, and a Savannah - understand?) Which do you think is the one that has more or less viral matter? (And hint: its a "tricky question")So, viruses (and some other microbes) are what's called "preeminent", and they control the parameters of interactions in the ecosystem (in other words; how long a particular organism exists - which is kinda THE determination factor in life/death cycling, and thus population).So... *kinda* important, when you're talking about population limits.Don't doubt the number of intelligences or their ambitions; that was my mistake; learn from it. It would get *alot* messier once you started demanding the lives of their "favorites", because you'd be close to finding out what they actually keep in their "carry on luggage"...😕(That's metaphorical, in case anyone from the TSA is reading)😅*ACTUALLY* there'd be a lot more than you realize; all manner of "weird types" who no longer have a productive role to play in society *all* feel suicidal; they're just not allowed to do anything about it.If they were allowed to voluntarily euthanize (not "suicide") without stigma, and with due process and consideration (so, like, people weren't just free to walk in and do it in an instant; there'd be a humane "step down" procedure that allowed them to back out of it)[Which - although I blanche at this prospect, I can't help but consider it, mathematically; it might even be a way of running "safe betting" houses conjunct to these facilities to constrain/regulate certain "dark math"](Sorry; it already told me its too long and stfu! 😅)
And if they do not?
I actually couched a similar concept, with several stages of permits, based on what relationship a citizen had w/ society; everything from the "Here, good luck!" type of "open pass" w/ no benefits, all the way up through subsidized health insurance discounts locked in and tax discounts because both parents are post doctoral.
I mean, it just makes sense, to me; if you need a license to drive around a death machine, why wouldn't you want a license for using your life machine?
@Spiritwander AND IF THEY DO NOT? (Christ like I'm not even fucking here challenging this stupid notion). Like that shit won't IMMEDIATELY be called racist, sexist, nationwide protests, walk-outs, famous actors taking to Twitter, late night hosts etc... We've been here before. It used to be called:"Pay for your own shit." Exhibit A:dur-duweb.newscyclecloud.com/.../AR-703049935.jpg
@demonics. What do you mean. You already know what.Get rid of this batch of homeless as soon as they start getting uppity in the media, and then dump fhe next batch of malcontents on the street while they're still shocked over the last skirmishes, like they always do... only maybe they'll call it "rabble-rabble 2.0" or something catchy to rebrand the trashy.
@Spiritwander And that will be seen as an acceptable response by *cough* ... well maybe if its being overseen by a black guy with the right political affiliation Hell do pretty much whatever you want then.
No, what I'm saying is people disappear *in the tens of thousands*`from the city streets every time there's a large media spectacle that gets everyone talking; homeless veterans know this... enough seasons on 'crete and you know when to skeedadle like a roach. You learn to seenit coming and dodge the sweeps... (like jumprope!)☺
@demonics arrest them, or fine them or give them tax penalties. Or maybe all of the above.
@Prettysammie Wait, did you just say arrest them, fine them, or give tax penalties in regards to the homeless, or in regards to the ones that don't pay for their kid permit? (Not that there'd be much difference)
@Spiritwander I meant for people who have unlicensed kids. Are homeless people really having tons of children? I don’t see that in any of the homeless encampments we have around here.
@Prettysammie That's because most parents are smart enough to get a car - no matter what - and *that* becomes their homes; that way they can only get to the free meals that are friendly; but their economics are based on fuel, groceries, and laundry... He usually works and she usually takes the kids to parks or the library where they can blend in & play w/ other kids, so, yeah, you wouldn't be seeing them in the streets.
That would have zero effect. The worst areas don't have any of the infrastructure you require for your measures. So, you going to militarily invade?
Adoption is not a good idea, the countries where people adopt are usually already overcrowded with to many people in a small area. It would make the problem worse. Reducing accidental pragnancies is a good incentive but making it illegal with ages is probably not a good idea because then it forces people into things they are not ready for.
@HereIbe Like I said, I realize the effect of this wouldn’t be dramatic and wouldn’t solve the problem. But it would do something.
@sawno I just think encouraging adoption would help because then people might have less biological children (not saying it should be mandatory to adopt, but encouraged). Not sure what you mean by making it illegal with ages will force people into things they’re not ready for.
It means it will not solve anything but instead you end up replacing the native population, not a good idea since the world is not over populated at all. We can all physically fit inside of the Netherlands someone calculated. The problem is to many people living in the same area's which tend to be the wealthy countries. Bringing people from less densely populated countries here is not a good solution.
@sawno It was just a thought. I didn’t know this question was asking what we’d do about the current situation. I thought it was asking what we’d do, hypothetically, if we were a world leader in the future and overpopulation was an issue. I guess I didn’t read it very well.
Personally i hope being an actual leader of the world never becomes a thing, that would be terrifying.
@sawno A world leader is the same thing as a president or someone who rules a country. I didn’t say leader of the world I said world leader.
You're a shining beacon on empathy and compassion aren't you?You need to watch less faux news. And never, ever come to Europe, we've already had wars over here and we don't like white nationalists (Nazis). Your type and attitudes not welcome here. Stay where you're from.
My solutions would not make any political distinctions personally, but it's your choice. To me, people are not worth more or less depending on their political opinion.
You're a country with solid foundations built upon immigrants from other countries, and yet you wish to kill all immigrants now? You're insane and a danger to society.And obviously a white nationalist Nazi. Please keep your hate and xenophobia inspired by the racist-in-chief, in the US, and don't travel anywhere else.I won't bother replying to your "the US won all the wars" as I doubt you can point to anywhere on a world map, nor have even a tentative grasp of history.
Oh, and a big percentage of homeless in the US are veterans. Yeah, you're so "patriotic" and obviously support your veterans so much. You're the lowest of the low.
Yeah that's funny, I'm a "white nationalist" no problem with immigrants it's the illegal immigrants that run down wages in our country and take job from us black people. 680 illegal fucks detained by ICE yesterday in Mississippi. What you think there ain't black people in Mississippi need those jobs? See you're the oppressive racists fuck.
Take your white nationalist trolling racist crap and spread it elsewhere. Didn't your mom tell you it was wrong to kill homeless veterans or immigrants - those people that were also your ancestors?Are you really this dumb? Do you not know where you came from? You really think all of your ancestors were legal immigrants? Are you that naïve and ignorant of history?Why do you support a racist leader?
@differentpixel White nationalist even though she is black?
A black girl talking about how black people need jobs... Is a white supremacist? That makes no sense.
It's all they got for a response when they are on the wrong side of the issue.RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA RACIST RACIST RACIST. They just hate it when a n** leaves the plantation.
It makes sense. There are plenty of black people who place whites on a pedestal while simultaneously mocking/degrading/hating their own. It’s called being a coon.Not saying this particular lady is a coon, I’m just saying... black people who support white nationalism do exist. It’s not some foreign concept.
@Ellie-V To be fair, there are a lot of whites who do the opposite and glorify minorities. I see what you mean.
Yep, totally agree
Won't do shit.
@Ellie-V You're right about that
I'm more of a "virus engineered to affect humans only dropped in high population areas like South-East Asia" type of guy.
I think it should be dropped everywhere.
But then it would be uncontrollable. If you only drop in specific countries, you destroy harbors and airports, close the borders and let the games begin. That way, you avoid uncontrolled contagion, especially through long range travel.
Wait, is this virus meant to kill people?
In the grand scheme of things, I don’t think that would work. Over time, they’d go back to rabbit fucking.
Well, good luck rabbit fucking if you die a few days or weeks after being infected.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
Lmao... the others just think we’re crazy, but we get it👊
I liked his bit about sinking cruise ships and replacing them too ^^
Nice one ^^
I mean it's pretty obvious that's what that's about lmao
Not being crowded everywhere does not mean we are not pillaging the planet and ruining a lot of natural environment for our needs.
Europeans slaughtering each other? Why?
Just something they have done since the Romans, Celts, and Norse first clashed. Then later the Moors with the Spanish Kingdoms, Seebs with the Bosnians, the English against everyone on the continent... so on and so forth. Give it time, it'll happen again.
I would bet more on Europeans getting rid of non-Europeans in their country personally.
Whatever the reason, it''ll eventually happen again.
You realize that the areas with the worst problems have no infrastucture to implement this crap.
@HereIbe Technically, death is a form of forced sterilization and they know how to do that.
One has to ask why so many people have kids in the first place.There are two reasons1. Their religion promotes it2. a lot of families from poor countries think having a larger family means a larger safety net.. larger family can increase overall wealthI think just educating people about how we are affecting the environment, making birth control more accessible, and perhaps helping poor families with assisted living could solve the issue and lower the birthrate. Really at this point, the european countries, u. s., and japan at least have slowed down on their birth rates.. Its usually the developing countries and the really religious that have increased the population more so
and as another user pointed out, give more rights to women in developing countries
in developing countries, death rates are a lot higher and more people don't have access to good medicine
Also becoming an inter planetary species will solve the problem of our existence being a threat in case we have apocalypse..Like zombie apocalypse.. Went à human cities on earth have failed.. You can abandon the planet and nuke it... Wiping all life form and wait for the planet to reboot give or take 100,000 years..Or in case à massive metor or Gamma ray Burst passes through earth and entire planet is vaporized.. We still might have backup human colony to re establish and rebuild the planet.. Basically this could be like cheating the Mass extinctions that have happened on planet before..
Where's Thanos when you need him!! 😑😑😑
Oceans...(That way, they figure it out, or sink)😅
Yeah but what about the resources needed to sustain 7.5 billion people and how it affects the environment?
Scarcity is manufactured and controlled. It would take $30,000,000,000 to rid the world of hunger. There are over 1,000 billionairs in the world. Not to mention the INSANE amounts of money laundering and scams. US taxpayers are paying for it all.Paris accord = scam (trillions) Red Cross = scam (billions)Foreign Aid = scam (trillions)WAR = scam (trillions)Hard to believe? It will ALL be brought to light soon. First it will start "small"
I definitely agree with you on that, but the amount waste and pollution we produce, the endless destruction of nature to build new stuff to accommodate the population's needs. I think it's too much.
We have the technological means to reverse all of the adverse effects we have done to the earth. It is the suppression of these technologies that has kept the world saturated in our filth. Also, the technology that is capable of doing this is the same tech that would cripple the corporate monopoly because they would not be able to make money off of it. It is "too effective." The only way this technology would even be reported on is if it were a means of distraction to keep the eyes of the people off of the corrupt. The murderers in suits. The pedophiles with jets. The exposure of this evil is happening as we speak and it is just the tip of the iceberg. The choice to know will be ours.
100% agree with you there, we live in a sad world where freedom is an illusion.
no we don't. We have limited resouces. We are growing at a exponential rate, but only growing food geometrically. We don't be able to keep up. And our natural sources are limited, and the toxins we spew back on the Earth keeps growing by the day. Water is going to be the most valuable commodity one day.
How would this solve anything?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Hon... they're *all small* at one point or another...(Besides, you do that and young boys will drop out of elementary school to "work on their pitching arm", and never make it to college... but he'll knock up a teenager before he gets cut.)😉
Dayum! That would only mean that me and Tom Rambone could have kids!
Shit... there's a law I'd shrink my cock to break...🤣
Or, how about a child tax. One political party seems to think that taxes help solve problems.