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Naturally Iran could also be on that list, but they are not that much of a threat In general
US doesn't bring stability tbh
@AkshiJanjua Depends. Brings stability to the South China sea, Hormuz strait, Bab el Mandeb strait.
Has not USA been at war for all but less than 20 years in its entire history? Its crazy how large of a warmonger it is.
@Soteris Sweden couldn't do anything if it wanted. You have no ability to go to war if you wanted to be the biggest warmongers. No one would feel your impact.You act like the US is seizing territory like Russian and China is. What the US does is tries it best to us it's physical ability to do the right thing just like a man protecting a tiny woman from an attacker or a police officer would do for a grandma. You sound like you'd rather have terrorists bomb without repercussion or for countries like Iraq to take countries like Kuwait.
I guess we should have let N Korea enslaved S Korea back in the 50s. That would have been the ethical Sweden way of letting women get beat by their body friends instead of growing a pair and defending the victim.
@cavmanier Are you seriously thinking USA is doing this out of the kindness of their heart? Grow up. Also you know all these terrorists and stuff going around today? Most of it is a direct result of USA playing world police.
@Soteris Yes I absolutely believe the American public and those that made the commands had and have good intentions. The second Iraq was pretty dumb, but other than that I don't recall something bad we got involved with. Bush probably meant well with that as well though. WW2 was good. Helping Korea was good. Helping South Vietnam was good (we shouldn't have abandoned them but liberal politicians would rather the millions of South Vietnamese to die in their boats so they can win elections so the south lost). The north was defeated until politicians though. Helping Kuwait not being conquered by Iraq was good. Yeah the second time we went to Iraq was dumb like I said but supposedly they had weapons and he was killing thousands of his people according to intelligence. I don't believe Bush should have done that though. I don't have an issue with us fighting terrorism. I don't know the answer to terrorism, but I don't have issue with us killing the terror groups. We probably should have gotten involved in Crimea (I didn't pay much attention to it) but Obama is a pussy like you Swedes. Putin wouldn't have taken that region if McCain beat Obama. We can disagree though.
@cavmanier So naive.. For starters there were no real intelligence on Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, they made it all up while ignoring the actual reports so that they could invade. Putting aside your motives for a moment the sheer amount of times USA has intervened and destroyed governments in the middle east, including democratically elected ones has destabilized the entire region and forced millions of refugees to flee. Sure their previous governments might not have been the best but compared to now its infinitely preferable. USA has basically turned an entire region on earth inhospitable for human life because of your own selfish and outright evil motives.
@Soteris "For starters there were no real intelligence on Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, they made it all up while ignoring the actual reports so that they could invade"I'm the naive one and supposedly you know exactly what the US intelligence reports were. Sure you do.Save it bro. I don't care what you think. Go be cynical and hate the world somewhere else. That's some good crack you have in Sweden.
@cavmanier Yeah, its not like USA never actually produced any evidence even to its allies or the people actually sent in to investigate the existence of the weapons of mass destruction. Its not like USA has actually said they have nothing or how investigations into the intelligence from these agencies reveals they had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction.But no. I must be completely wrong since you say so.
@Soteris Why are you criticizing the one war I said I didn't agree with?No the US didn't find the actual alleged chemical weapons. It was well known that Saddam had used them on his people though. Bush invaded BECAUSE he wanted the UN to inspect what Saddam said he didn't have, yet Saddam didn't allow US inspectors into the facilities. You missed what happened entirely. I'm sure you have some strong anti US propaganda there in your media though so it's not all your fault.Bro are you dumb? It wasn't just US intelligence suspecting the weapons in Iraq. This was a UN coalition thing. They were concerned about the people Saddam was killing. The UN was only against the speed at which Bush attacked which I agree with the UN on. I knew talking to someone as far out in space as you would be pointless.He obviously did have weapons at some point. That isn't debatable. Maybe he got rid of them but the desert is a large place we we'll never know.You're just way far out there in left field due to the anti US propaganda where you live. I get it too living near San Francisco, but I look past the self righteous cynics.
@cavmanier There is no anti-US propaganda here. USA is hardly ever in the news in fact because its a foreign country that has very little to do with Sweden.But yeah, Iraq.. Saddam did indeed have chemical weapons which he used even with the help of USA but that was before the treaty, afterwards he did not have. He had plans to start but plans is not the same as actually doing it.It was an invasion purely on the basis of certain peoples private interests, USA once again became the vehicle of corrupted madmen.
@Soteris You can say the US helped Saddam get chemical weapons. That isn't rational and it's not relevant to what I was talking about. It wasn't just the US that suspected Saddam of having those weapons. You don't have proof that he didn't have them. Saddam could have avoided all of it if he complied with the UN inspections which is what lead to his removal. The US wasn't trying to be mischief spreaders like you suggest. The point of removing him was getting rid of a dictator that had been killing his people. Somehow you people twist the US is bad though. I don't want to debate it. Your breed is cynical and inclined towards negativity in general from what I've seen. Other liberals like Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker admit it and there are studies done showing liberals are inclined towards not feeling satisfied. Of course you're going to look at the situation negatively.You have no proof that the war was based on private interests. A company benefiting is not proof. That's like saying Obama became president only so he'd become rich and buy a 8 million dollar house next to Ivanka and Jared Trump. His benefit is not nearly enough proof for proving his presidential motive. There is far more going on that one thing. Whatever though. You are cynical so have fun with that outlook. It's not rational.
I'm sorry but if they started rebuilding the birtish empire there is the UN.
Are you from Asia? I'm curious why someone would think that.
I figure there would be an anti US bias if you live in China.
Who said I lived in China?
I guessed China would be most likely because they are a US competitor. You could be in north Vietnam or somewhere else of course. There are cynical liberals all over the world that had America as well. That's different though. It was just a guess.
Yeah still a sounds like a pretty racist one to me.
Uhh not 1 billion miles away from being racist in the slightest. I made no reference to something negative about Asian people. I pointed out how different countries have different biases.It's sad some people are not in touch with critical thinking skills. If you live in the US though, that victim attitude you showed fits right into the political party (democrats) that largely dislike their country so I can now see you being from the US.Feel free to see racism is EVERYTHING in your distorted world if you want though. That is quite sad.
@cavmanier Right and it's also funny how people just get touched about everything. Excuse me for thinking that, like it's not a big deal. You don't need to get so offened. Crazy how people are like that these days.
@cavmanier You overstepped the boundaries of civility the moment you assumed that @saeyamazaki was from Asia. That was your first mistake. And the fact that instead of apologizing, you go on to conflate Asia with China, and then went on to make assumptions that she was from North Vietnam. And then went on to assume she's a "cynical liberal". And then you projected your own biases onto her with what many ordinary people would consider to be a very passive-aggressive phrasing of words. If anything is sad, it's your inability to see your own transgressions against the face of polite and civil behavior. Stop projecting.
You're the one that brought up racism. I'm not really so offended though. You can call me a racist or a wizard astronaut and I'll believe both to the same extent. I'm more saddened that this is where society is going.I do think it's a big deal when people in positions of authority like school teachers are impacting others towards negative belief systems. It feels like it's creating a society where people are worried about not offending instead of having authenticity.I mean seriously, I ask if your from Asian and I'm racist. That would never happen if I ask a person is from Europe. Why shouldn't people be treated the same? I'll never conform to that real racial disparity. From my position it feels like people are so dense in the head.
@cavmanier Let's get one thing straight. You're not asking @saeyamazaki whether she's Asian because you're genuinely curious where she comes from and are interested in her as a human being. This is NOT a classroom setting, you're NOT meeting her at a social event, and this isn't a Meet and Greet. Please don't insult anyone's intelligence by pretending that's what you were after when you asked her whether she was Asian. The sole reason you asked her was to confirm your biases. If you were GENUINELY interested to get to know her, you would have just waited for her answer.Why was there a need to mention North Vietnam, and then China, and the "cynical liberals"?Please stop peddling intellectual dishonesty. It speaks poorly of YOUR critical thinking abilities.
@dantetheexplorer I could have only assumed if I didn't have a reason and I believed I was right. It sounds like you don't know what that word means. Maybe you aren't this way but my mind uses data from the world to try to direct me to understand it. Then I asked her to clarify which means I didn't believe I knew. That was literally the point of my question. You are free to think that is overstepping boundaries.I never conflated Asia with China. I'm not sure how you got that. Regarding assuming "cynical liberal," you either didn't understand what I said or you're misusing terms again so it's hard to know what you are saying. It's not worth talking about though.Ah I see though. Psychologist dantetheexplorer can tell that I'm "projecting" my biases but you aren't "assuming" my belief system. You did the same thing I did with her. We both saw signals in our flawed minds that lead us to think something was plausible. I asked her a question though. That's the usual learning pattern. You are allowed to do that but not me. I get it. I'm curious what bias you think I'm projecting on her doctor. I use doctor not to be rude (I'll "assume" you'll feel it though) but to point out the complexity of trying to know if someone really is projecting (not something a doc would likely attempt on the internet).No offense but I'll decline your medical advice. I think I know myself better than a likely offended guy on the internet that saw me write a couple paragraphs. I know you are a guy from Asia so you're probably raging at me being racist or whatever you think, and you're probably liberal. We can agree to disagree. It's not worth spending time on. I have a project I'm doing.
I’m seriously not sure where you came up with that I thought I was acting as I was curious in her as a human being or I thought it was a social event. You are kind of scaring me how out there you are sounding. I’ll try to explain quickly if you actually want to know and aren’t beyond the point of rationality.The question is about which country we think is a threat to the world. When she said the US, I was curious if her view was influenced by living in a country where (I haven’t lived there so I’m not claiming or “assuming” to be an expert) (I’m going to do that thing here where I use what my humanly flawed brain understands to make sense of the world), what I would guessed is an anti US bias. Maybe I am entirely wrong, but my view is that there is some nationalistic competition or rivalry felt by some in China against the US. The same thing that likely exists in Russia to a lesser extent. Being that I saw her answer posted late at night when most Americans aren’t online (when it’s heavily EU and Asia), combined with her anti US attitude, I was curious if her view was as someone from Asia. I figured China was most likely because of it’s statistically population combined with our rivalry. I don’t know all Asian countries to know which others may feel similarly other than China and north Vietnam. I’m a terrible guy for these things to you though. Whatever man. You can think whatever you want. I’m guessing you were blinded by a bias as well.You are trying to psychoanalyze me way too much for being on the computer doctor.
When I said, “Are you from Asia? I'm curious why someone would think that” I was genuinely curious to know if there was something of irritation towards the US sentiment bias. I’m not sure if you are assuming I’m racist or hate Asians or something? Feel free but that is definitely not the case.I’m not going to go into this though because I have lots of other work to do. Think whatever. I’d rather have you block me than have an argument. I'm really not raging.
@cavmanier @dantetheexplorer , guys, it's fine. It's my mistake. Let's just drop this.
Be careful who you let know we might take you out
@codycccccccccc Come and get it moose jockey! Lol j/k
And Captain America saving the world 🤣🤣 (I'm not even from Iran btw)
@Nougatti He won't save the world. But I get your point, America does some shitty things as well.
Yet you forgot to mention the US!
@mad9617 Nope, I mentioned them in my reply to Nougatti
Reply not in the main comment, by the way iran is on a ban. How can they send billions when they need pennies. US is sending trillions through saudi Arabia ist great allie!
@mad9617 They send it by the suitcase to Hamas and Hezbollah along with weapons.
So you think hezbollah and hamas are a threat and you turned a blind eye on the US-isreali backed up isis that killed thousands of people!
@mad9617 I didn't say that. The USA and Iran are both threats, but Iran is a bigger threat.
Iran is a bigger threat😂😂 lets agree to disagree mate!
@mad9617 Okay, that's perfectly fine with me. But I have been to Iran before and the people are great, the country is great, the leaders suck ass. It's the same thing in America, China, Russia and everywhere else. The leaders suck.
This is one I definitely didn't expect to see. Do you mind explaining?