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I don't know Karbala but India is heading in the wrong direction under Modi. Eventually every talented person who can emigrate will leave the country.
I think the Kashmir situation is very similar to the Palestine/Israel situation. You have Benjamin Netanyahu and his government Zionist regime killing innocent Palestinians and over taking the land of Palestine and trying and Israel is trying to do the same with Jerusalem, Syria and Lebanon, essentially they want to take over the whole Middle-East. That's why I don't care what Zionist supporters say about "It's Israel's land! Palestine" those idiots are trying to normalize barbaric behaviour and if Israel takes over the Middle-East, which they never will but if they did those same idiots would be okay with that to. I think the events happening around the world may lead to World War 3. China, Israel and Iran are sending a clear message to the US which is "don't fuck around".
didn't a while back jihadis took over and started to ethnic cleanse the area killing non muslims. Men women and children. Burning down temples I think this might just be a retaliation to thatBut i could be wrong. Not sure
Can you please tell this in full detail, and provide article of it.Is there nothing but fake news now a days?
There was religious intolerance from both the sides back then.
India claims the entire erstwhile princely state of Jammu and Kashmir based on an instrument of accession signed in 1947 while Pakistan claims Jammu and Kashmir based on its majority Muslim population. Since partition, Muslims are under great ruin and tension at the hands of Indians.
Muslims living in Kashmir
Well of course. Its how pakistan even became pakistan. Its all indians to begin withBut i mean globally you see extreme muslims having intolerance in many parts of the world. But hindus in general dont cause global havocIts hard for me to believe the hindus are aggressive mean and pushing them outIts far more believable its the jihadisWhether its true or not i dunno. But as an outsider thats the logical way to see it
Ok wait. Ignore what i said before for a second
But why are they under great ruin and tension. What happened next?
Stop reading mediaAnd start using your mind please
@Kelly6 what?So you dont know what happened next. Then whats the point lol
I am asking why is Kashmir a problem for both?Why was it not fixed in 1947?I know the answer, I just want to see how fake will your story be? Lol
@Kelly6 i dont have a storyIm asking what is it lolSo what is it? So after the partition when indians had about 55% of the land. Pakistan had 30% and china 15%So what happened next?
Gurdaspur was basically a Muslim majority area that was given to India because of what India had a border with Kashmir. It was Sir Cyril radcliffe's decision of unfairly providing India with muslim majority areas.
Ok so then why did someone draw blood? Why did that happen?
Now India wants to occupy entire Kashmir. It is a gateway to trade, water etc. There was also a Canal Water Dispute b/w Pak and India as the headquarters of River Sutlej were in Ferozpur (muslim majority area)
Also when Muslims found out that the muslim majority areas like Gurdaspur (where they were living) was not included in Pakistan after partition so they started to migrate to Pakistan. Indians began to violate muslims due to partition on communal lines and large scale massacre was carried out.
Yea we know today they want toBut why are people killing each other before this modi did this? Like why are they fightingIts for land right? Muslims want the land and indians want the land too?
Why did the indians start to massacre the muslim population though?
Very true! Kashmir is a very profitable land. Neither Pakistan nor India wants to lose it. Many atrocities taking place against Muslims by the Hindus living there.
Muslims and Hindus never lived in peace. Anywhere ever. Religious intolerance from both the sides. Muslims are wrongly accused of the fact that only they produce extremism. If you have read about the Congress Rule set up by the Hindus in the British India, you might conclude in changing your mindset.
Ok sure. Ill take a look soonWhats confusing with the narrative thats its the fault of the indians is that the hindu population is so small in kashmir Why is that so? Why is there barely any hindus there? What happened to them
So the problem really is that Pakistan wants full Kashmir claiming that it is a Muslim majority state and also claiming that hindus bringing misery to muslims in Kashmir but Kashmir actually has very less HindusIndia says its a Secular country and all Kashmiri are Indians but some Kashmiri muslims actually want to join Pakistan. So they have become very communal and does not allow any Hindus to settle in Kashmir. Terrorist groups generally come from pakistan occupied kashmir who are islamic extremists continuously disturbing peace of the region. These terrorist attacks have risen a lot in recent years. So Indian government send more army troops to Kashmir for sequrity but some muslim Kashmiris hate Indian troops.Kashmir is muslim majority but has other religious groups like Hindu and Buddhist tibetan who are treated as not Important by muslims in kashmir
All the princely states were free to choose any country but Kashmiri raja was Hindu (but Kashmir was already a Muslim majority area) so he deceived Kashmiri Muslims n annexed Kashmir with India although people of Kashmir wanted Pakistan.
@AkshiJanjua Finally lol been waiting for your response hahaThats why im asking why is there such little hindus there. If indians were the ones dominating the region they would be more hindus and less muslimsBut from the numbers. There is like barely any hindus. So they must of been pushed out, killed, or convertedSomething obviously happened to make such a low population of hindus there
No one is blindfolded today. The whole world stands with Kashmir and is a clear witness to Indian Atrocity for Muslims living there. @TripleAce its more barbaric than you can even imagine.
@kayaleyla285Ya but how did kashmir become such a dominate muslim majority. The only way was to push out the restIs that correct? Or no
so she is not entirely correct Kashmir was actually declared Independent at the time of partition but Pakistan sent the army to conquer it. At that time Kashmir king was hindu so he asked to merge kashmir with India to stop pakistani invasion then a war happened between India and pakistan that India won and it became a part of India
@AkshiJanjua rightSo then slowly over time extremists jihadis were causing problems and pushing people out. Making it a dominate muslim regionBecause there is only like 2500 hindus there. So something made them disappear
@TripleAce There were some areas in the subcontinent were Muslims were in majority and areas where Hindus were in majority. All the muslim majority areas became Pakistan however there where some princely states who were muslim majority but the raja was Hindu
@kayaleyla285Ya but if pakistan wants that region to be muslim majority, all of it. isn't that a problem? Kinda seems like a problem
As soon as partition took place, Kashmir didn't become independant and there was no war at that time. It was not yet decided. However before there could be a decision, the Hindu raja without any consensus sold Kashmir to India. This created an uproar. Hindu raja told the Indians that the land belongs to them now. The indian troops were sent to Kashmir so there was a war that took place between Pak and India in 1948 in which Pakistan won half Kashmir that is Azaad Kashmir in Pakistan. India called UN and accused Pakistan of attacking them and invading the muslim majority land. Pakistan refused to return what they got so India sent troops for the other half and upon UN intervention, india got the other half.
Lol. Its already muslim majority and the muslims living there don't want more violence under Hindus hence they want to escape it. @TripleAce
I see So the point of contention here seems to be you say ‘indian raja sold kashmir to india’Akshi is saying that pakistan came in to claim the land and the raja declared it indian land to prevent that warSo which is it?
Lol no @TripleAce 1948 war became a reason of such an unfair act by the Hindu raja
Jammu and Kashmir had a Muslim majority (77% Muslim by the previous census in 1941). Following the logic of Partition, many people in Pakistan expected that Kashmir would join Pakistan. However, the predominant political movement in the Valley of Kashmir (Jammu and Kashmir National Conference) was secular and was allied with the Indian National Congress since the 1930s. So many in India too had expectations that Kashmir would join India. The Maharaja was faced with indecision.[note 3]On 22 October 1947, rebellious citizens from the western districts of the State and Pushtoon tribesmen from the Northwest Frontier Province of Pakistan invaded the State, backed by Pakistan. The Maharaja initially fought back but appealed for assistance to India, who agreed on the condition that the ruler accede to India. Maharaja Hari Singh signed the Instrument of Accession on 26 October 1947 in return for military aid and assistance, which was accepted by the Governor General the next day. While the Government of India accepted the accession, it added the proviso that it would be submitted to a "reference to the people" after the state is cleared of the invaders, since "only the people, not the Maharaja, could decide where the people of J&K wanted to live." It was a provisional accession.[note 4]
@kayaleyla285Indo-Pakistani War of 1947–1948, sometimes known as the First Kashmir War, was fought between India and Pakistan over the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir from 1947 to 1948. It was the first of four Indo-Pakistan Wars fought between the two newly independent nations. Pakistan precipitated the war a few weeks after independence by launching tribal lashkar (militia) from Waziristan, in an effort to capture Kashmir, the future of which hung in the balance. The inconclusive result of the war still affects the geopolitics of both countries--> these are all stating that Pakistan invaded Kashmir after independence is that incorrect though? I have no idea lol
@kayaleyla285It also says that:Maharaja Hari Singh made a plea to India for assistance, and help was offered, but it was subject to his signing an Instrument of Accession to Indiaso that makes sense because according to what I'm reading, pakistan did indeed invade kashmir to take control after independencewhy would they do that? why not just live in peace...
guys where did everyone go all of a sudden lol
@tripleace Kashmir was a princely state, so it had to remain independent, so both the parties India and Pakistan had to remain silent. But Pak chose to invade, the king of Kashmir didn't have any choice but seek help from India. If you had a candy and someone snatched it from you, wouldn't you complain?Yes, Hindus were minorities in Kashmir, they were massacred. That Is really bad.People in Ladakh suffered a lot. Also, all Muslims don't want to join Pakistan, only some groups want to do this.After 370 was revoked, there was a survey on who was in favour of India, both Muslims, Hindus and Christians together voted and stood a majority of 77% , the people who opposed was 23%What more should I say?..People try to manipulate using the name of religion, it won't work.Justice is Justice.
@MrPleasure well the problem is why did pakistan invade kashmir? Why wasn't it enough what they had. Which was common ground
The Kashmiri people should be given a vote for independence just like the Scottish people had a vote on whether they wanted to be independent from the UK.
This is a great example that money does everything,People who have money can do all kinds of crimes, and no one will care
looks like we are getting closer to the reality and truth of what is happening...are you paying attention to the topic still?
You are right. People in power are doing the worst and getting away like they are the heroes
Ah this one is done lolI guess this one got a good lesson on history. Ahhh silence. Was talking such a big game before until the facts were revealed
Just cut the whole region in half, one indian, one pakistanese, and be done with it.
@AkshiJanjua so whats the problem? Are you going to tell us lol
Kashmir will stand by itself insha Allah
yes because of terrorists
What!Is India terrorist?
@Kelly6 no he means pakistan. Parts of it is definitely terrorist related
@TripleAce but India is in Kashmir at the moment !
@Kelly6 but islamic terrorist killed off and pushed away most of the indians. Its mostly muslim nowthere's only 2700 hindus there nowIs that right?
@TripleAce I was asking proof Not your fake story.You Indians think that we American’s have no knowledge of Kashmir, and you can throw all fake news on us.
@TripleAce you are Indian?
@Kelly6 ask this guy lolHe’s a direct source@AkshiJanjuaCan you give us some insight. Be honest though. Whats actually going on. Whos wrong or right
No im not
@TripleAce direct source? Wow
@Kelly6 he is actually very rightand Kashmir is half in India half in PakistanSome part is also in China
This info is true butGo back to 1947 and find out how Kashmir is on this problem or why
@Kelly6 ya definitely direct sourceSo is the question askerBoth are
@TripleAce how does someone become direct source?
@Kelly6 by living there or closer to the region. Basically if you live in india or pakistan you should know the truthThey will know more about than you and me
@TripleAce not true, now a days people get knowledge from social media lol
@Kelly6 ya same as youSo ill go with someone who lives there as a more direct sourceIf i can find a person living in kashmir. Thats even better!
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