I wish I could give you gold. This was amazingly well written and insightful. Highlighting the question and the problem rather than throwing stones as most comments here seem to do. And on top of it you are only 13! Yet pondering and discussing this question in a more mature way than most adults here!
Neatly said, i went a bit bozooo
People need to understand what they are writing might be correct but it is irrelevant. Sorry kids, I don't accept the 12-15 year kids need to have sex whether they are sexually active or not is not relevant.
No one in the facilities is kilking them its the treacherous journey their parents put them through that does. Its bad parenting. Under no circumstances should a parent do that to their child.
@Creepazoid True. But if you weren't safe in your home country, and asylum would be likely denied due to anti-immigrant policies. Crossing would be your best bet to get your child out of harm's way.
Your acting like there isn't any good places in mexico there's a lot of good places in mexico it s not just all ghetto.
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What if the girls was a minor? What if they were r*ped? what about incest? it's just more than just wanting to kill a child
Fuck that every murderer should get death penalty except those who have evidence of self defense.
@GreciaJackson All those issues combined don’t even come close to even making a half of a percent of abortions that are actually performed. It sucks if that happens but even still, the child doesn’t deserve to die because they aren’t responsible for it.
@GreciaJackson, 1. What if she's a minor?Children normally can't be kept responsible for other crimes, so why should they get punished for this? It's the adult who had sex with the child who should go to prison. The parents should also be held responsible for poor child rearing.2. What if she was raped?The rapist should go to prison for both rape and being indirectly involved in murder. If he raped a child, he should also be punished for pedophilia. Women should get treatment after a rape and told to not do that again. Prison time are for re-offenders in this case. It's very unlikely to get raped several times.3. What about incest?Again, if it's rape the rapist should go to prison. If both were consenting adults, then both should go to prison. Not only for murder, but also incest. There's a reason it's illegal to procreate with your family because of genetic failures. Adoption and foster care are options when the child needs a home.A child should never get killed or punished for someone else's crime. When someone are sick they sometimes gets an abortion because of it's a choice between one person or two dies, which isn't the same as regular abortions. Children gets abortions because of it's dangerous for them to be pregnant.98 - 99% of the regular abortions are when consenting healthy people had sex. Most of them are adults. So there's no point using an argument that applies to less than 2% to everyone else.
The fact that this got 17 downrates shows how fucked up the Gag populace is. This is some proper Saudi shit. Fuck.
Don’t you think that by making abortion illegal that won’t stop people from getting one?
@GreciaJackson You can use the same sentence for any "crime." There will always be people that don't over laws. Without laws though, crimes increase. Laws are a deterrent.
@GreciaJackson I agree with you on during rape. I don't think the woman has a obligation to keep something forced on her.
A pregnancy is temporarily and lasts 9 months, while death is permanent.
Dumbtard! That means we should not kill murderer at least jail them for life
Yeah we should jail murderers for life. But I think it is hypocritical to kill killers, since that would make the person executing the sentence also a murderer, and technically they should also be killed. I’m just against death penalty.
Yeah thats debatable. But after, it's either death penalty for women doing abortions or life time imprisonment
and by that army guys during war shouldn't kill christian terrorists too?
So many people are trying to ban or shame women for abortions regradless of the reasons why she wants one and I think it's freaking insane
Its not good that people are doing this
Lol you are my new husband
You need to be a little older , but we would have lots of fun I bet.
I have used mouse traps, but the little beasts were cute I must admit. Once I got beautiful little female mouse , she really was an attractive little mouse. I figure the male mice were going nuts missing her.
You have contradicted yourself: saying you're 'for life' and yet its ok to kill insects like flies because they spread diseases? All living things spread diseases including humans.
@munchedburger keep looking munchy
Female mice are HOT.
@supercutebutt hmmmmmmm, I don't think male mice could satisfy you though.
Isn’t just like a liberal to spew lies
@Rissyanne - I think this is a case of hearing the outright lies often enough from the media and other people they become their version of the truth.Kinda like the "Hands up, don't shoot", bullshit too. Never happened like that!
Its amazing how many people expect a raped woman to still carry the baby through term. What about HER psychological damage.. I believe the mother's health comes first over an unborn fetus. To be forced to bear a child after rape or incest is ridiculous. I was married to someone who went through that and they were VERY damaged psychologically from it. Developed Borderline Personality disorder.
@jss123 oathI've been assaulted before... and i can undoubtedly say that it still haunts me today. little things like someone hugging me sometimes triggers those memories and i couldnt even hug or come into contact with my family for a while
They are still not conscious or aware of anything, bugs are also alive, you still kill them right? So it's no different
I just said that when they're late-term, brain functions can be seen. We can prove and have proven that they are conscious at a certain point. When the cortex has started developing, they are no longer empty husks. Most people don't often have late term abortions but it's still legal in a lot of places.
Do religious people hate others?
@munchedburger yes unfortunately, it is the biggest cause of conflict in society.
@munchedburger Religious people want to control how other people live their lives
I would never want to put my kid in the foster care system
That's better than denying it the chance to live, and you can always set up a closed adoption with someone you know. Instead of aborting me, my biological parents decided to have my biological aunt and uncle adopt me.
The foster care system, you have to be fucking joking. It's awful and tramatic for a child, not to mention the feeling of "well my parents fucked, this is what they made, and now I'm basically a human curb couch with a free (not really) sign on it". I understand your views, you're saying they're not working hard to bring that thing they created into the world. I respect you as a being for thinking selflessly and putting others before you, but have you been in this situation before?
First, you got it wrong. It's not about the parents not working hard to bring their child into the world, it's about the fact but that child has near Limitless potential. That child could grow up to be great, maybe cure cancer or Aids, or solve world hunger or World Peace, or figure out how to terraform Mars, or discover how to fly faster than the speed of light, or create songs so beautiful it would make even hearts of stone weep tears of joy, or maybe none of these things, maybe it will go up into Joe average, but it deserves the chance to try, don't you think? On your second point, I have been in this situation before, but not in the way you think. My biological parents almost aborted me, had appointment set and everything. Then my biological aunts husband I was diagnosed and subsequently survived cancer that left him unable to bare children, so they decided to adopt me at birth.
No. Have you been pregnant before is my question.
Really? You're pulling the I'm a woman and a man can't possibly understand card?
Olive branch? There are 2 reasons I would understand a woman having an abortion. 1) if there was a fairly good chance that the active child birth would wind up killing either the mother, the child, or both. 2) If the child will be born with severe physical and or mental defects.
Ginsu! I haven't heard that word in a looong time xD
Why should there be punishment at all?
@NyfikenSyd Solid point - I'm just saying, they always demonize us women, and give men the okay, then men turn around and get upset over child support and the courts favoring mothers in that situation.Its manipulation.Forcing women to only be valid for producing children and that's it...
I can't really argue for punishing men for abortion when I don't think that there should be any punishment at all.But I totally agree with your point. If a guy is opposed to legal abortion I also hope he will take his share of the burden for raising the child.
@NyfikenSyd Yea, it'd be a ridiculous law for sure. 14 yr olds would be put to death for fucks sake lol
They think abortion is murder of a human child. That's just an opinion not a fact