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Voted "Conservative," but I always, when I see this kind of question, have to put an asterisk over it. My conservatism is not what Americans typically call conservative. Because what Americans call conservative is, historically speaking, not conservatism but is, rather, classical liberalism.My conservatism, which for convenience I will call classical or Tory conservatism, traces its intellectual pedigree through Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas - and probably most importantly - the 18th century British statesman and political philosopher, Edmund Burke, and also the British Prime Minsiters Benjamin Disraeli and Lord Salisbury.In an American context, it shows up in the thinking of Alexander Hamilton and then - almost by historical accident, the American Whig Party, and the former Whig turned Republican, Abraham Lincoln. (It is a great historical "what if" as to what the GOP would have looked like had Lincoln lived and the radical Republicans not gained the ascendancy.)Classical conservatives believe, unlike American conservatives and liberals, that the purpose of government is to answer Aristotle's first questions of politics, "How ought we to live? What kind of a people do we wish to be?"To which classical conservatives respond that the purpose of government is to nurture civic virtue. To reinforce those habits and customs, legitimized by historical usage over time, that make a harmonious and stable social order possible.Classical conservatives believe in the free market as a tool, rather than an end in itself. They recognize that it is a powerful wealth creator, efficient to some degree, and a guard against an overweening state. However, they believe, as Burke said, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do what they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations."Consequently, classical conservatives support an ameliorative welfare state. (The welfare state was invented by two conservatives - Disraeli and Bismarck.) The purpose such a welfare state being to reconcile the public to the dynamics of a free market economy by alleviating the negative impact of old age, illness and temporary unemployment.In this they differ from American liberals who see the welfare state as a lever to engineer social transformation. That is, to restructure society according to some abstract a priori vision. Classical conservatives argue that such a vision is ultimately going to be oversimple and will lead to adverse and unintended consequences.Tories believe that political philosophy should take as it starting point not human reason, but human nature. That political rights are developed through historical usage, and are not abstract pre-existing. Which is to say that they don't deny that such abstract rights exist. Merely that they are of no practical benefit or use in civil society and law. As Burke put it, "Their abstract perfection is their practical defect."In all this, then, classical conservatives tend to see less difference between American conservatives and liberals than they see between themselves. Albeit that classical conservatives are more likely to align with their American counterparts insofar as American liberals tend to be more deeply hostile to custom and tradition.
a little of both, I'm more independent and conservative. But, I lean towards freedom and rights. For example... let gay people be married, let women kill their unborn to a point (I know that is awful... but Jesus didn't stop them either... nor can I). But give life every opportunity and chance using societies support, and capabilities. there has to be laws to control human behavior and protect each other and environment, so that gets sticky around gun rights and dumping of pollution in environment so liberals are sometimes on the better side as the "conservatives" are all about business which is about $$$$$ which is corrupt!:)in my personal life I go conservative.
I don't really feel I have a choice in the matter. I was born a conservative. I used to watch liberal protesters park their large SUVs downtown, pop their trunks, and take out their anti-oil protest signs. Seriously? Who in the fuck is that stupid? After Trump was elected, I saw a young gal on TV that was crying hysterically. The news reporter asked her why she was crying. She said: "I don't think that Trump will allow me to have access to birth control!" Seriously? At what point in life do you become that fucking stupid? Now... is she talking about "access to birth control" or "FREE access to birth control?" Why doesn't she just go door to door and ask for donations from her neighbors? How can ANYONE take a liberal congresswoman seriously, when she wants to ban cows from the planet, just because they fart? Hillary said that while her plane was landing in Bosnia, they were taking on sniper fire! She said that the crafty pilot went into a "corkscrew" landing, to avoid the sniper fire. Hillary said that once the plane was on the ground, the security people whisked her off to a Jeep, and took her to safety!!!Later on, after all of the people present at the event said that she was full of shit...Hillary said: "Well, it was a long flight and I got confused."What really happened on that tarmac? Crooked Hillary was greeted by a young Bosnian girl that read her a poem that she wrote. Have you ever had one of those days where you mistook gunfire for a poem reading? Ya, me neither...
I don’t really identify with either, as I don’t agree 100% with either side. Generally speaking though, I think most of my ideals line up more closely with liberal.
I am more conservative but I am not in lock step with every plank of the conservative platform.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes"... knowing why someone is the way they are can help us to be more tolerant and patient with one another. But we must also be honest about the situation. When important choices are being made based on gut instinct rather than logical reasoning, it is everyone’s responsibility to point this out so that it doesn’t result in catastrophe."That's what I try to do here.
Moderately liberal. I do not agree with the "SJW" types or the socialist agendas of Sanders and Warren, nor am I on board with the conservative platform. Both parties have gone way too far in their respective directions, each party thinks the other is part of some evil conspiracy to control the media, and neither side will ever get what it wants until they stop bitching about each other on the Internet and learn to work together again. Until that happens, none of our problems will really be fixed.
I have what I used to consider to be liberal values. My values haven't changed but, over the past couple of decades, liberalism has changed. Some liberals think the Democratic party represents liberal values even though it is nothing of the sort. Also, I don't agree with some liberal causes. In particular, I strongly support second amendment rights. But that's not my only disagreement. I have things in common with people across the political and ideological spectrum.I have come to reject labels and partisan politics. I am an open minded free thinker. Nobody can be described by a label. And fuck both political parties.
Liberal, of course, just like most scientists.Why? Because we understand physical reality and the negative ramifications of many conservative policies as well as the needed ramifications of many liberal policies. Our ability to be abstract and see long term is better and, for us, life is not simple black and white. Furthermore, for the past 40 years, I've been watching them (and the Democrats) like an extraterrestrial anthropologist studying objectively studying humans. And, what I quickly discovered in the early 1980s was the copious amounts of manipulative horseshit squirted out of the talking assholes of the GOP for their personal gain and not at all for the benefit of later generations.It was so obvious, I chose not to have kids to protect them from the shitstorm that you have now inherited. Good luck!
I tend to be a bit more conservative with social issues, and a big left-leaning on some issues. Political Compass pots me in the lower left quadrant very close to the center (slightly libertarian and left-leaning). I disagree, and I think I'm more conservative independent.
I'm not answering. Contemporary liberalism has been destroyed by rampant hypocrisy and idiocy; highly emotional people with a habit of making serious slanderous claims against people in the name of standing up against "fascism" (fascism being the act of having a different opinion to them, exposing their hypocrisy or informing them of facts they do not like). Contemporary liberalism is quite terribly lacking in logic.I am liberal.. as are many.. conservatives. However because of what contemporary liberalism has become, traditional liberals are now apparently not liberal but conservative... or heck alt-right, far right, fascist fuck it throw everything in there nazis. Traditional liberals are nazis apparently if they stand up to ANTIFA brutally attacking people for having a different opinion. Oh the irony.
U saved my weary fingers bravo
mostly liberal. I don't think anyone is really conservative - that is, I don't think anyone really believes that trickle down economics works. And that's pretty much all there is to being a conservative. The rest is just "false advertising" to gain numbers. Religion, guns, racism, pro-life... there are liberal arguments to all of these things, if you wanted them. But there is no liberal argument for trickle down economics, because that is how a conservative is defined - and thus opposition to it is how a liberal is defined.
I am a progressive liberal capitalist democratic nationalist.On the current spectrum that makes me conservative since they are trying to push in a direction i consider liberal. But unlike a real conservative i want to go further rather than preserve what we just have. So i am absolutely progressive, but in the opposite of progressives. And i am genuinely liberal, not a marxist / socialist / communist disguising himself as one.
Republican / Conservative. On the political scale I rate myself as "Center - Right". I'm not an extremist or a real activist who goes onto the streets trying to get attention. Wish I could be more open about it without consequences. But that's not possible as a right-leaning person these days.
I'm a liberal as in I strongly favor capitalism and free markets, free speech, property rights, and just freedom in general (both economic and personal freedom), but right-leaning, or "classic liberal" as they call it now in the US. In the US I like the libertarian party.
If I crudely summarize my political views, I like countries to become as green as possible on this map:
I'm not a progressive. What they call "liberal" now in the US is not liberal. Somehow the term has been hijacked and conflated with left-leaning progressives. That's not a true liberal.
In the US, I get the impression that conservatives are more liberal than what they call "liberals" now over there.
I'm more liberal but in the "classical" sense, I don't agree with a lot of the progressive leftist agendas and SJW types, and can see value in some of the more traditional conservative values. (Although conservative politics in the UK is a total shitshow right now, so the political establishment needs an overhaul to bring things back towards centre)
Authoritarian is the antonym of Liberal / Libertarian.Conservative means you want things to stay as they are, which is generally in the hands of the rich who are authoritarians.So an easy rule of thumb is, if you dont have blue blood or an 8 digit bank balance you should be a liberal, unless you live in the United States in which case you should be a revolutionary.
I’m liberal. The shitty thing in the us is the leftists stole the liberal term.
You say Liberal/Libertarian like the terms are interchangable. Like Fried/Tomato.
@MoscowMitch Yes, because i said authoritarian.I know what you are getting at and I couldnt be less interested in getting into that with you.You missed the point, thats your problem.
@selfdestruction The problem that you have in the United States is the same problem faced everywhere in which politics is defined in a left right scale, but it is far more pronounced in the United States because you are so heavily brainwashed and polarised and taught to wave flags etc.2 axis are required to define all polticial and economic posititons, authoritarian liberitarian and communist, capitalist.When you try to lump 2 axis into 1 axis you end up with conflicts, the most pronounced of which is the low taxes economic freedom and the fewer laws personal freedom aspects.In the single axis scale authoritarian and capitalist are bundled together and communist and libertarian are bundled together which is not only confusing and inaccruate but it makes looking at half of the spectrum completely impossible.I you hope to understand anything about political, economic systems etc the first step is to understand the compass.This idea should be promoted as much as possible in the United States in hopes that you can finally put this nonsense to an end.https://www.politicalcompass.org/
I see what you're trying to say, you just expressed it very poorly.
@MoscowMitch I expressed myself just fine, you are just a prick.
Really? You are the one calling names.
@MoscowMitch You came in here acting like a prick and i told you to fuck off, so fuck off.
Did someone die and leave you in charge? I don't think so.
@MoscowMitch Just fucking drop it and fuck off stupid cunt you are like a fucking dog trying to hump my leg.Following me into other fucking threads now because you dont know when to just shut up and fuck off
Neither. Modern conservative identity is pretty trash. Liberalism is aids+cancer. I do like a few things about each. I find that conservatives tend to be wayyy more open minded, which is ironic because liberals like to think of themselves as being open minded even if they’re close minded and dogmatic. They just tend to be more delusional.
I went from the left to the rightI used to be liberalI used to think it was alrightThe liberals are now not what they wereThey are full of hate and spite The conservatives will listen to your point of viewThey won't get vindictive and condemn youThe right is alrightThey happen to have a good idea or twoIn the end, I'm conservative in my world view.
i'm no nun but i have conservative ideologies and tradition. But in a political aspect i do lean more towards being conservative too
Mostly Apolitical. I do think Trump is doing well but I dont participate in the political process.
I dont know man. I'm for who ever helps people and dont be asshole about it Liberals are crazy and want you to bend to their rules logic Conservites are all money hungry and crazy religious racist. But I have consevravite friends who are not that. And I agree with gun rights and national security that's about it. Liberal I believe health care should be dirt cheap to being free see how people are crazy and diseased.I vote my interest
Liberal. It's unsurprising how many men are conservative given their views about women in general.
Liberal but sexist, nice. Perfect example of liberal hypocrisy. And i’m not even conservative.
No. You're just a fool if you think I'm sexist.
Was the dig at men really necessary considering the topic of discussion? I lean liberal in my politics, but I can see how blanket ad hominems and sly digs like this can make right-wingers more resentful towards what they perceive as the "(in) tolerant left".
@SomeGuyCalledTom It’s not a dig. It’s an observation. The majority of GaG men are conservative and have unflattering view of women.I couldn’t care less of what they think because plenty of them are blatant hypocrites and refuse to acknowledge it.
Right well let's suppose that's true for sake of argument. But what compels you to draw a link between political conservatism and "unflattering views of women"?
A liberal woman assuming that she knows better than conservative men and that their opinions aren’t even worth her time or attention because she is so above them. Yeah you’re really only going to feed the stereotype that conservatives have about “libtards” and about women. It’s pretty obvious why conservative men have poor views of women. Your own behavior feeds that negative perception that they have. Good luck navigating through life with that attitude.
and why do you think men have those views of women? if it were just a bunch of guys then you could say they're just misogynists but if it's many guys, then their must be a reason behind those particular views
@SomeGuyCalledTom It is true whether or not you believe it.Studies show that conservative beliefs and prejudice are linked. That’s why. The responses speak for themselves.
I'd need to see the studies in question to offer any comment
Those labels are out-dated and meaninglessAnyone who subscribes to either platform has lost the game. There is a 3rd way ☇☇⛪
People are in the process of changing what those words mean, again, in a way that's making me shift my answer. So it depends what you mean.
Both sides are bs but if I really have to label myself, I'm a liberalish-conservatish centrist lol
Probably more liberal. I value human rights and the environment over very harsh laws and privatisation.
Im very much a conservative. i feel whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours not hey im going to give my stuff to everyone.
I grew up in a conservative home so I'm a liberal but op.
Look up the definitions of the words. Then ask me again.
I’m more Liberal, but far from a SJW who spends all their time on Twitter trying to cancel public figures for the dumbest things.
Moderate to slight conservative but i'm still open minded i don't go around judging people the way liberals and democrats and republicans do
Doesn't really matter whom you are when it comes to it. they are about the same.
I'm me, I'm tolerant and open minded, but I'm neither.
I'd say im mostly neutral with a slight edge of left.
Liberal in some ways and conservative in other ways.
Hahahaha, I hope this starts many many feuds between the two sides.
i'm neither, there are more political opinions than just those 2 choices
I am more liberal with alit bit of conservatives views
Might as well have asked it:"Are you more *wacked out and wrong* or conservative?"
I completely agree.
Conservative. I used to be a liberal but seeing how they been acting up like fools for a couple of years I switched up to not be associated by idiots
So you went third-party?
I'm very happy you realized what a disgrace democrats / liberals have become. They have all turned into extremists.
@SkipStop Democrats yes. Republicans also yes.
@holograph Most republicans have remained the same as always. But democrats have gone off the rails to the left. That's why moderates and republicans still bond and know how to communicate. Democrats have gone crazy and label anyone else as "Alt-Right". Even Joe Biden is too moderate from their point point of view. They don't see him as radical enough to be a democrat. There was even a chart which showed how the left is dominated by extremists while the right remained fairly stable. I saw it in a video but can't remember the source of the chart.
interesting. most men are conservative and most women are liberals. i guess that explains why men are so rational and women are so crazy
Independant capitalist. Do what you want to do, don't expect me to pay for it and I'll do what I want to do without sending you the bill.
I'm more liberal, but conservative about marriage, abortion, and family.
are you queer?
@John_Doesnt Nope, my fiance is a man.
a man who had a sex change
I'm liberal with a small l and Socialist with a capital S.
Centrist. I have ideological desires, but I act on pragmatism. Sometimes that means going against your better angels.
Depends on what you think liberal or conservative is... Because politics isn't that easy and liberal politics aren the complete opposite of conservative politics either.
Liberals follow the devils lead. So no im not liberal.
I don't know butI'd take a REAL REPUBLICANOver TRUMP any day
I am libertarian at my core with conservative tendencies in terms of culture and family-orientation.
Weird how more women are liberal. It’s like conservatives are trying to take away their rights at every turn. Big government when it suits them.
Or maybe they just want more "Free stuff" at someone else's expense, and conservatives don't want to pay for that.
Isn’t that what society is? I’m paying for schools and I don’t have children.
Well, how do you vote? Given what the school systems have become, please vote to defund them.
Little of everything id say, but leaning toward conservative
The Leader is neither because I promise you eternal bliss.
Conservative but I try to get along with everyone unless they act like an idiot
I'm more conservative.
But I dont really claim a political party
Depends on the issue.
I am a Conservative Republican what about you?
I'm just authoritarian
I'm neither. I am an independent.
Conservative But Tend to Be Moderate as well. xx
I’m center right. Now what?
I'm right-leaning libertarian.
Neither, I'm a reactionary
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