Wrong. Having the abortion is volentary, killing the baby wouldn't be. Regardless if she "felt" the baby was alive or not. Holy hell you're stupid. Driving a car drunk is volentary, hitting someone and killing them isn't. The fact that the person didn't even remember driving that night is IRRELEVANT.
RESPONSE TO UPDATE:If the mother's health it at stake, what should be done is whatever is medically necessary.If the choice is the mother's life or the fetus's life, that's up to the mother and that's it.
Are you a fucking idiot?That's exactly what I said - abortion is voluntary thus it would not be "involuntary manslaughter".
Can you even read? i said the abortion is volentary but killing the baby as a result of the abortion would be INVOLENTARY. Much like the drunk driver killing someone. I study law. moron.
Its BOTH Involentary and manslaughter. you're an idiot arguing "Well since the drunk diver VOLENTARILY both chose to drink, and chose to drive therefore it can't be involentary manslaughter when he kills the person on the road! Do you have a working brain?
I study law too moron - since you were swimming in your father's balls.And I actually know how to spell "involuntary".So, let's go to the definition of "involuntary manslaughter" from Black's Law Dictionary.You study law, right? So you know what that is. right?thelawdictionary.org/involuntary-manslaughter/What is INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER?the term that is given to the unintentional killing of a person during the committing of an unlawful act. See manslaughter; voluntary manslaughter.====Since it says we should look up manslaughter and voluntary manslaughter, let's do that...https://thelawdictionary.org/manslaughter/What is MANSLAUGHTER?In criminal law. The unlawful killing of another without malice, either express or implied; which may be either voluntarily, upon a sudden heat, or involuntarily, but in the commission ofsomo unlawful act 1 Hale, P. C. 400 ; 4 Bl. Comm. 191. Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human creature without malice, either ex- press or implied, and without any mixture of deliberation whatever; which may be vol- untary, upon a sudden heat of passion, or involuntary, in the commission of an unlawful act, or a lawful act without due caution and circumspection. Code Ga. 1S82.thelawdictionary.org/voluntary-manslaughter/What is VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER?the term given to the killing of a person that is associated with a fit of anger seemingly for a good reason. It is intentional but not planned.If you want to be a lawyer, buy that book.If you want to pass the LSAT, learn to spell.
Typos dont prove i can't spell. Furthermore you mispelled that same word in your first comment. If you are going to argue you might quit being a hypocrite. Also. Defining something isn't an argument by itself It certainly isn't since in this case the definition youve provided AGREES WITH ME.
What an utter failure you are!HAAAAAA
A woman who has an abortion who kills it not knowing its alive or not is doing so UNINTENTIONALLY. It would also be unlawful in many states. It would also be unlawful if the baby is alive. You study law is a lie.
Google "Due diligence".It would be incumbent upon the abortion provider or the mother to determine the viability of the fetus before the abortion is performed. If the mother's life is at risk, the baby's is irrelevant because the mother has the choice. If the mother's life is not at risk, then she has an expectation of due diligence (as does the abortion provider) to verify the viability of the fetus.An abortion provider who performs an abortion on a viable fetus in the 9th month for a mother who is in no health risk, for him/her to do that would certainly be criminal. To fail to prevent the abortion knowing it was going to happen might even be criminally negligent homicide depending on the jurisdiction. This is unsettled law.Anyway, you might be interested in this because this sort of thing is what would apply to a medical professional who allows death that could otherwise be prevented.This is the ending of this episode (Season 1 Episode 10) of Law & Order: Criminal Intent. episode, called "Enemy Within". It is about a male nurse who provided personal care to a paranoid old wealthy man. He set up conditions so that the wealthy man would die... What the nurse didn't realize is that he "has a higher standard of care"... and he committed manslaughter...This is the whole episode...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYTM2Zx-Jhobut, this is the good part: when the detectives go in for the kill on the perp...www.youtube.com/watch
From the script:www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/...de_scripts.phpDETECTIVE ROBERT GOREN:It's brilliant! Between us, it's the perfect crime. Because you really you didn't do anything really criminal, did you?MALE NURSE, ZAINER:No. No, I didn't.GOREN:That's right, not even when Edward warned you to get his father out by the elevator.ZAINER:How was I supposed to know he was going to set a fire?GOREN:You couldn't.Maybe Kit had an idea when you told her, that's why she changed the code.But you, you were just an employee.It wasn't your job to question them.ZAINER:No, it wasn't.GOREN:If Mr. Sternman wants to lock himself up in the bathroom, that's his business, right?ZAINER:There was nothing I could do.GOREN:What do you care? This old man who couldn't wipe his own ass without you.He wouldn't lift a finger to help get your sons into St. Steven's.ZAINER:It's Stephan's.GOREN:He told you he was going to write a letter to the school. Use his influence.Never did.ZAINER:No.It was just a damn letter.(more)
GOREN:That must've burned you, the utter thoughtlessness, while you ya made sure he took his pills every day, you massaged his dry old skin, you monitored his every little burp.ZAINER:That's right.GOREN:You put up with all the little indignities of servicing his personal hygiene.You wanted something better for your kids.ZAINER:Yes.GOREN:The old bastard.He treated you like like something he scraped off his shoe.But you showed him.You played him.Played the whole family like a fine violin.ZAINER:They were easy, so wrapped up in themselves.GOREN:The perfect crime.ZAINER:Well, you said so yourself, I really didn't do anything criminal, did I?GOREN:You're a registered nurse, right? Had a contract with Sternman to provide care?ZAINER:Yes.What?GOREN:You heard about the lifeguard on Jones Beach, who let a drowning man die 'cause he was too busy talking to a girl? - They convicted him.DETECTIVE ALEXANDRA EAMES- Manslaughter.GOREN:He had a higher standard of duty than other people.He couldn't just walk away.Neither could you.ZAINER:What are you talking about?EAMES:Your contract."Richard Zainer agrees to provide the nursing services listed above, and to care for the health and welfare of Harold Sternman."GOREN:You watched the forces gather around Sternman to kill him.ZAINER:But I didn't do anything.GOREN:That's right.You did nothing.You watched it happen.And that, my friend, is manslaughter.ZAINER:But he owed me.GOREN:He owed you the salary he paid you.
lol. "An abortion provider who performs an abortion on a viable fetus in the 9th month for a mother who is in no health risk, for him/her to do that would certainly be criminal. To fail to prevent the abortion knowing it was going to happen might even be criminally negligent homicide" So all of that and you agree. None of anything else you said holds any brearing on that.If you disagree, you would be contradicting yourself. You would have saved yourself a lot of embarassment and time by simply saying to me "youre right".
Asker , I've noticed a bunch of arguing about who's the best lawer...Willfully , knowingly and with full intention to abort especially in the latter months is ; absolutely criminal to a degree of murder. Incumbent technicalities dont match to the constutsio of the charges of murder.
Word games. Stopping a birth is aborting regardless of methods. If your argument held water (it doesnt) the legal term of "post birth abortion" wouldn't exist. FAIL.
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Nature doesn't really care i think morals are man made concepts but if we are to be consistent with punishing murder why does this jurisdiction stop at the birth canal? When precisely does that baby have human rights? Seems to me when it is apparent the baby will survive the pregnancy and be born healthy.
The fact that something is Illegal doesn't mean you can't do it. Wrong.
If this girl got a back alley doctor to perform an abortion on her at nine months, that’s murder
But I have never heard of this happening
Ha. never heard of back alley abortions. except for the statistics that prove they happened. Even if those statistics were lies, i guess since you personally haven't seen one happen in front of you, they dont exist
I get that you’re being sarcastic, but yeah, kind of. I don’t trust statistics.
You CAN have an abortion even after 9 months. Its called post birth abortions. What kind of dumb bullshit comment is this? Even if it was false, what kind of idiot can't even entertain a hypothetical? I guess that'd be you.