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It does but it's not like how feminists claim it to be.
No actually there is no such thing as toxic masculinity. There are just little weak men who feel so small and probably ssxualy confused and start making asses out of anyone who is masculine. I have noticed in this new generation of boys and metro sexuals they could use a huge dose of man hood. Being masculine is needed in every generation. It is needed for the same reason it has always been needed to protect your loved ones and make sure your family is taken care of if you have to do heavy manual labor. Believe me even with a college education you could have a great job going to work in a suit every day but what happens when you get older and your used to making easy money and you show up for work one day and your job is gone there is no more cushion jobs to find. I think most of the new generation would move their family in with Mommy and cry I can't get a job I have seen this unfortunately. Where I was raised doing hard labor my whole life would get a job doing heavy back breaking work working 18 hour days 6 and 7 days a week so you can hold your head up and be proud and your children see you every day and know what to do if it ever happens to them. Masculinity isn't these boys going to the gym shotting steroids and shaving there bodies and going to the tanning beds strutting around like they are men. Sorry guys those shots of steroids causes hypergonadizme. Your balls shrink like grapes in the sun and you nuts stop making testosterone. I have been one of those college graduates who had their cushion jobs taken away. I looked for a job in my line of work and none to be found I started looking for the highest paying manual job was so I got a job installing huge heating and air systems on the roofs of multistorey building's and I worked 18 hour days 6&7 days a week. I know a man who has a beautiful wife that's a nurse she works long hours while her steroid weight lifting and body shaving ass says he can't get a job because he can't find one in his field so he makes his wife have to work twice as much as normal while all the women who say they want a real man sleep with this useless sack of garbage while his wife is killing herself keeping him in his beauty products food in his belly and a roof over his head. While the women crack jokes in public because a few of us real men work like farm mules all day and night but we can hold our heads high and never took a thing from anyone.
Toxic masculinity in the sense of constantly pressuring guys to act in certain ways or more accurately, to NOT act in certain ways, so they aren't perceived as feminine or gay (which are usually seen as synonymous in this scenario since something is usually deemed gay if it's feminine) is definitely a thing. We all grew up with the idea that being called a girl was a bad thing. "You throw like a girl." "Don't be so emotional, you're acting like a girl." "Guys can't like (insert activity/toy/movie/etc), that's for girls!" So when that's taken like an insult, it puts you on the defense to then "act like a man". And the problem with that arises mostly when it comes to emotions. If you are told guys don't cry, then you might try not to cry, especially not in front of anyone. If you are told that talking about your feelings is for girls, then you might not share how something effects you with your friends or partner. If you are told guys don't like hugs/cuddling/etc, then you might not seek out physical affection outside of your romantic relationships. And we've seen that this can create men who are emotionally stunted because they never learned how to express emotions in a healthy way, they never learned how to communicate their feelings so they can resolve situations peacefully, and they are touch starved because they don't feel like they can ask for affection. And if you can't cry, can't talk about your feelings, can't express hurt or suffering or trauma, what does that leave? Anger. When anger is the only emotion you feel you can safely express without being taunted, of course that's what you turn to. And THAT is toxic masculinity.I understand why guys get so defensive when they hear 'toxic masculinity'. It feels like yet again someone is telling us the way we are, or the way we were taught to be, is wrong. And that's something we've heard all our lives. But saying that there is something deeply wrong with demonizing femininity, then assigning either femininity or masculinity to everything and ridgely enforcing only masculine behavior in boys, is not the same as saying masculinity is bad. Masculinity is absolutely fine. Being masculine is fine. The problem arises when you feel like it's your only option because anything else would make you less of a man.
Toxic masculinity exists as nothing more than a feminist buzzword used to attack men and shame them into behaving in a softer manner. Toxic masculinity essentially asserts that men being socially dominant, self-reliant, and emotionally repressive are negative traits for men to have under the assumptions that such traits would lead to violence. However, such is not always the case. Because men are expected to be providers and earn their keep in every capacity to provide for themselves and their families, men should have complete control of everything they own and thus have the right to be dominant. This is not required to lead to violence in any shape or form. As for men being emotionally repressive, note nothing is wrong with men expressing some emotion, especially depending on the situation. The problem lies when men expressing negative emotion dictates their behavior and how they chose to react in certain situations. As long as men are the more physically stronger sex, men would always be expected to perform responsibilities and duties relevant to their strength such as working jobs that require harsh physical labor and being a protector, especially regarding one's family and property. For a man to be a good protector and be willing to perform hard physical labor, he requires a tougher skin. If too many men were "in touch with their feminine side," they wouldn't be willing to do the jobs that only able-bodied men are capable of doing or have the courage to defend what they love and own. For example, imagine living in a society where most of the men refused to do the construction, factory, and/or warehouse work that actually keeps our means of production going because it's "too heavy," or where our soldiers refused to go to war because "it's too scary," or where our fathers and/or other men in the family failed to protect their family or property because they're "scared of getting beat up." In any given situation, especially at work where people such as family members depend on men, negative situations are bound to happen. A strong man knows to deal with whatever negative situation he comes across and could still be dependable, while a more emotionally reactive man might have a breakdown and might do something to jeopardize his entire livelihood. This would force more women to perform duties and responsibilities better suited for men and, to be honest, most women are incapable of doing such. Thus, for society to stay intact, men have to be men and what feminists refer to as "toxic masculinity" is oftentimes necessary.
It's not masculinity that's bad. There are plenty of positive traits of masculinity, like assertive and confident,, etc. I believe it's insecurity that is expressed because of society pressures and can become toxic for such insecure, not emotionally balanced men. So instead of crying which might be good or getting help, they shoot up a mall, or beat up their girlfriend, rape, bar fights, road rage attacks, etc. I don't know about you but I'd rather a dude "cry like a wimp" if it allows him to feel better and heal from whatever is bothering him. Rather than taking that hurt, which is rooted from sadness and nihilistic insecurity inside and rage coming out instead because of a society making it more appropriate for a man to express that way instead. I think what would fix it is for men and women to feel they have to be n rigid boxes. And if society didn't give a fuck as much if a dude has emotions on the softer side or it helps him. Like I really don't care if a dude likes poetry or whatever, even if something is amusing to me. I'm past that and see how it's important for people to be as long as it' s not hurting anyone. However, I think people being "cry babies " is another thing, though I don't think it's all that fine for women to be whiney or cry a ton either.
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I don't know if it makes it better. But I tell you what. I'd rather have a troubled boy crying or getting help than bottling up that "weakness" and venting out in violence wouldn't you?
Yes, of course, the question is whether it's an edge case phenomena that should be given a bit of attention or a rampant thing that strikes to the core of our culture.But if you consider scenarios like a teen boy who is teased that he's gay, so goes and fucks some drunk girl or participates in drunken gangbang that he didn't even want that much to show how manly he is, or guys who feel like they need to get into fights to show they're a real man, etc., those things are toxic masculinity. Do most guys do things like that? Not to that extent, but I'd suggest it's not all THAT rare.I think you could put forward an argument that male attitudes towards getting help around mental health issues are partly, though not fully linked, to ideas of 'toxic masculinity'.What's troubling to me is that some, and to be very clear, NOT ALL, but some projects over the last decades aimed at addressing toxic masculinity simply try to remove all teaching of masculinity at all. That … might work but would require some care. When done without care, it leads to a void where teen boys learn what masculinity means from media, and I think they tend to be MORE, not less likely to end up suffering affects of toxic masculinity, since they are learning from brash stereotypes of what being a man is, versus actual contact with actual good, adult men.
Interesting and I agree.
That was fantastic. "This house is clean" (says the lady from Poltergeist). Mic drop.
I didn't address it some of what @Usernamesrdumb or @incelposting says is correct.But we can use a good example here: Racism. Some people say 'racism' at the drop of hat, accuse every republican post Lincoln of being racist, proclaim racism is foundational to capitalism in spite of plenty of countries being capitalist with a uniform population, etc. That doesn't mean racism doesn't exist, however.The fact that some people scream 'toxic masculinity'' at literally anything masculine does not mean that toxic masculinity isn't real. Claiming it's not real is naive argument that lets those people who over apply the term prove you wrong by citing real examples.
Im saying toxic people exist. In your example trade racism with sexism. trying to label an entire part of the population is no different than labeling say black people are thugs. There are people that are thugs, not a race of thugs. Judge me not from my Y chromosome but my character. Just easy way to blame men for all thr worlds woe. Please read male bashing article. Author does a good job.
In the study of linguistics, they make the distinction between the "signifier" and the "signified".Signifier= the word used to describe someone's internal perception of a thing, place, concept, person, action, etc.Signified= the thing/ place/ concept/ person/ action itself, as it exists in tangible objective reality.Part of the reason it's so hard to find any mass consensus on so-called "toxic masculinity"... is that the concept being signified is not well defined, and so a gap arises between the signifier and signified. This is not a new dilemma, and is a systemic feature of semiotics and evolution of language.To make the point... many people have their own signifier in mind when they use the term "masculinity". Some even claim that masculinity has no objective basis in reality-- a signifying term without a signified phenomenon. And yet those same people who say "gender roles are all socially constructed"... will also say that "toxic masculinity is totally real and objective". Like, you can't have it both ways, right? Is it all socially constructed, or are these gender traits endemic in human nature? One signifier cannot point to two contradictory 'signifieds'.
And that contradiction is why I take issue with the term "toxic masculinity". Because nobody can actually seem to pin down the objective reality of what's being signified through common, standardised use of the signifier. "Toxic masculinity" has no linguistic precedent in medical literature (although the American Psychological Association are trying their hardest to retroactively insert such precedents into the literature, for ideological reasons alone it would seem). Perhaps it has some functional precedent in anecdotal non-scientific parlance. Ie: if a man who appears very masculine is behaving in a negative fashion that can reasonably be labelled "toxic" by an onlooker... then to that onlooker, it could make total sense in that context to attach the signifying term "toxic masculinity" to that instance of negative behaviour. If enough onlookers observe similar patterns of behaviour in highly 'masculine' men over time, then a shared linguistic map will be sketched out to fit the observed territory-- thus a new signifier is birthed to point out this newly-observed behavioural pattern.
But again, the question here comes back to signifier versus signified. To the onlookers, their subjective experience of seeing that behaviour may justify the use of a new term dedicated to pointing out such behaviour. But still we must ask: does the fact they observe a trend-- and attach a name to it-- actually tell us anything about the intrinsic, objective nature of the trend itself? Just because you observe something as simultaneously "masculine" and "toxic", does that mean I must now accept as an objective reality the precept that "masculinity has an intrinsic capacity to become toxified"? Or that "masculinity itself IS toxic?" Or that "too much masculinity creates toxicity"? These are not objective realities to be taken for granted at face value. We have to discriminate-- judge-- weigh evidence-- discount subjective distortions of perception. It's simply too soon to accept any of these claims as objective, eternal truisms about the nature-- or potential nature-- of masculinity to become a fundamentally toxic force.And remember, correlation isn't causation. Some men happen to be masculine and also toxic. That doesn't mean that masculinity CAUSES toxicity. And even if it CAN cause toxicity, we know nothing about the triggering conditions or mechanisms-- and therefore, we must presume by default that those mechanisms don't exist until proven otherwise.
I think when a guy tries to force his idea of masculinity onto another guy or puts it above a woman’s being-that’s when it’s toxic masculinity.For example if a guy thinks all men should lift weights or work on cars and he meets a guy who doesn’t do that, calling him a fag or making him feel less about himself because he doesn’t fit “your” image of masculinity, it’s toxic.Some guys have this weird notion that women aren’t human beings like them and that they have to be treated a certain way because “Mother Nature” made it that way. Like slapping a woman when she “gets out of line” or some other weird belief they have about treating women certain ways to get them attracted to them. Read any article about men talking about alpha/beta/pill theories and you’ll see what I mean.When you let your ideology of masculinity override your ability to see people as individuals and start seeing them as ideals or wrong, that’s when it’s toxic.But I guess at that point it’s your ideology that’s toxic. But since masculinity is so broad I’m going to say that toxic masculinity is a thing. There isn’t one universally agreed set of characteristics that defines masculinity
There's toxic insecurity. You usually see it in the form of "gym dudes" that literally make you cringe when they talk about "alpha" and "beta males" and how much real sex they have. You also see it in the form of the "selfie whore" that lives and breathes facebook and insta likes.
I have no idea how this woman is actually getting dislikes.
to use their logic against them - the whole "I'm so alpha and you're so beta" is such a "beta" thing to say. It shows that they have insecurity as they try to prove to everyone around them and announce it to the world how "alpha I am". It is, by definition, the biggest "beta" thing to do.
A girl who gets it <3
I've offended the pussy-slaying alpha males lol
@GuidoThePizzaMaker Dude, shut up. Look at your other opinion on my other question.
Nothing I said conflicts
The only Pussy they slay are themselves 😂
There's nothing "insecure" about going to the gym and not being a slob. Also, I only ever see slovenly, greasy left-wing males bragging about being manwhores and calling other men incels.
@clonesclone its not about going to the gym, its about saying "look at me, look how cool I am, look how successful I am over you, you're just a loser" and it shows that the person announcing it, trying to get all this attention, is the real loser
It is, but so is toxic femininity. For me, toxic masculinity/femininity is a set of personality traits that are very stereotypically feminine or masculine, as well as the inertia of the person to refuse to act in any way other than the said stereotypes. For example a woman who thinks machines and learning is girly so she refuses to ever learn how to drive, leaving her husband on a double duty to work full time and chauffeur her and their kids. Or a man who thinks emotions are feminine, so he refuses to hug his own mother on finding out that his father has just passed away, leaving her to succumb to tears are she stands there alone.
Can you please adopt me as your
"that are very stereotypically feminine or masculine"..Wait wait wait... didn't the progressives, leftists (including feminazis) and postmodernists say gender stereotypes are taboo now? If so then toxic masculinity by your definition doesn't exist..
Is it a thing? Yes.Is it like the lefties claim it to be? No.Toxic masculinity is when boys don't learn how to handle their masculine drives and energy. Essentially us men need to learn how to valve our drive (especially with all the Testosterone we get pumped through us during puberty) into a constructive way such as doing (fighting-) sports, building things, working on your car, etc. rather than a destructive way - usually involving any sort of violence.Ironically these very same people who complain about toxic masculinity are actually creating it by not allowing - let alone supporting - boys to learn how to handle their natural drives.
It's just a made up word for crappy person/personality who happens to be a dude... that's it. In my opinion it shouldn't have anything to do with masculinity cause being masculine or having masculinity isn't bad... it's a good thing. Masculinity is good, most women want that and find that attractive.. if we get feminine energy from a man then it's a turn off.. well maybe not for some but for a lot us it would be.
Its just shaming tactic to get and end result. Like manning up is doing what you are told when your masculinity is threatened.exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/There are plenty of toxic women. People are toxic, not a gender.Also cause its socially acceptable to bash men.www.baltimoresun.com/.../...en-20180814-story.htmlPersonally if you label me, i choose not to participate. After the Gillette ad, i threw my razor away and bought a straight razor, strop, and stuff to make my own shaving cream. Keep labeling us, we’ll keep leaving. Google “men checking out of society”. Its already happening.
The only was to get rid of it is to stop your production of testosterone and turning yourself into an emotional woman. Remember, all these SJWs in colleges are among the dumbest in higher education. They do nothing productive and take majors in subjects that are literal post modern, liberal nonsense. Embrace your toxic masculinity, it's the reason men were able to create Western Civilization. Ignore the ugly, fat women who seem to think they should be taken seriously despite the fact their credentials on the matter are laughable and they are full of rage due to their unfortunate genetics
I don’t think masculinity in itself is toxic, but there certainly are those who take it to a toxic level. I just don’t associate with those individuals and I encourage others to avoid them as well.
There is no such thing. Masculinity can't be toxic. Here is a list of Masculine VirtuesHONORCOURAGEKNOWLEDGE/EXPLORATIONSTRENGTHLOYALTYINTOLERANCERESTRAINT RESPONSIBILITY All these things make a man masculine. Its also what makes a man attractive to women. I don't know about anyone else, but I dont understand how these traits can be toxic. Remember these traits exist within tandem, to single them out belittles masculinity. Masculinity is all these things together working.
I would say there is no toxic femininity either, I haven't thought enough about feminine virtues or read about femininity. But an extremely feminine woman isn't toxic, she is just embodying her natural virtues greatly.
I think it is a thing. I know some of my mates, if they cry in front of their friends- they'll get laughed at. And that's shitty. Maybe not so much toxic masculinity, but toxic gender roles.
Oh? What is your solution to solve it?
Thank you for understanding us.
I wish I was wise enough to present you with a solution
I mean, I'm wise, but not THAT wise lol. Generally, needs to be more accepted, don't know how to do that
Neither masculinity nor femininity are inherently toxic. The terms colloquially represent behaviours and characteristics commonly represented by their respective genders. Given that nature, the definitions of both change considerably from generation to generation (though, admittedly, certain elements of each are fairly persistent throughout history and cultures).I think it would be more accurate to say that certain behaviours are toxic, and we attach those behaviours to masculinity or femininity due to cultural influences. The prevalence (and consequently, the diminishing) of such behaviours is on society as a whole to decide. Convince enough people or just convince the right people, and BAM - masculinity suddenly includes kick ass baby showers, wearing salmon shirts, and stay-at-home dads. Hey, wait a minute...
Yes it does exist.Defined as: adherence to traditional male gender roles that restrict the kinds of emotions allowable for boys and men to express, including social expectations that men seek to be dominant (the "alpha male") and limit their emotional range primarily to expressions of anger.I think that's clear enough. Simple example: "men don't or should not cry" that's toxic because why the hell not. The fact that men crying is seen as you''re "feminine" toughen up and all that bullshit is toxic masculinity. If you do not experience it, then your lucky and your parents or environment or whoever didn't teach it onto you or influence you. But it is still very much part of many males' life which I also witness.
"men don't cry" is not actually about crying at all. It's about getting your shit together. A weak man will get overwhelmed with emotions and pity himself (cry) and avoid the problem, but a strong man will face the problem and try to come up with a solution, even if through tears
@Optymistyk You are the perfect example of toxic masculinity, that whole paragraph. Crying does not mean you are avoiding the problem. You can strive through a problem in tears. Crying is an emotion. It's okay to get overwhelmed, you just then take a pause, cry if you have to and move. STOP associating tears with weakness. That is toxic.
@Optymistyk And you contradicted yourself."A weak man will pity themselves..." etc and "cry" but then at the end you said "even through tears". Contradiction.
No dummy, I meant what I said, you should read carefully before jumping to conclusions.In the context of this saying "to cry" means "to pity oneself". Just like "to kick the bucket" actually Has nothing to do with kicking. "Men don't cry" simply means "men don't pity themselves, men take problems head on". And yes, even through tears, because like any human being guys obviously do cry. There's nothing wrong with crying, you just don't get what it means to be a man
@Optymistyk I read I understand. You are toxic masculinity. Fight your denial with your ancestors. The fact that you don't see that, is part of the problem.It's my opinion. Create your own. Post it separately. Jesus.
Toxic Masculinity is as much a thing as Toxic Femininity, but those pushing Toxic Masculinity will never acknowledge it as it inhibits their "I'm a victim" narrativeThe truly "Toxic" male are those who have been brought up with no Male role models so they have never learned to control and harness the feelings that males have into positive avenues.
Yes, it is; so is toxic femininity. They should be spoken about together though they are toxic in different ways.And the way to combat it is pretty simple: Education. If you, as a guy, feel poorly about yourself and think that you may hate the opposite sex for reasons beyond your understanding, then talk to more of them and really ask them what's on their mind, and why. We ALL have to just be more patient with each other if we're going to enjoy this thing called life.
Not as originally outlined.There is such a thing as people just being toxic, but it applies to men and women. "Toxic masculinity" doesn't represent that. It refers to pervasive cultural attitudes among males that are uniquely oppressive against women; but they are not pervasive and oppressive and that's the problem. People who believe in it can't distinguish toxic cultural norms from some people just being assholes.
A very broad term, that's for sure.There are particular downsides of masculinity, no doubt about that. Especially when it comes down to men showing any kind of weakness, though most of us have weaknesses. I think right-orientated people kind of overhype this thing. Same goes for gender binary stuff, feminism, you name it. Yeah, it's ridiculous, but it's far from what right-wing people make it out to be.
I don't like that is is thrown around to describe all men. I'd say there are quite a few angry men out there or men who don't respect women but the same can be said about a lot of women. I do think that sometimes men might not understand why certain things they believe might not be seen in a good light by women. We all evolve. Who we are today may not be who we are tomorrow. So there is always hope.
No. It's a misandric term made up by feminists / misandrists to make men think they are bad and stop trying to be the best they can be. It's a way to bring men down which has been the feminist agenda for at least two decades. So ignore those haters and stand up for yourself.#mensrights # MenToo #HimToo #redpill #mra #mgtow
It doesn't exist. The people who say it does tend to be effeminate men who want to demonise masculine men to make ft themselves look better, and feminist women who want men weak.
The term sounds like an indictment of masculinity itself. Masculinity is actually a good thing. It benefits men and, thank goodness, most women appreciate it. The real problem is that some men have learned bad attitudes and behaviors. They had bad role models. How 'bout instead of toxic masculinity, we talk about bad individual attitudes and behaviors. Both men and women can be guilty of that. There is nothing toxic about masculinity of femininity, though.
No it is not. Imagine the reverse. Toxic feminity. You cry too much you whatever. There would be outrage. This is why feminism is a lie. If they were for equality they would fight the hell out of this not start this shit
Yeah. Think so. Ghetto culture is tbe fountain of toxic masculinity. It literally lives and breathes idiotic concepts such as 'intimidating reputation,' 'bling,' 'swag,' and blowing cash on expensive liabilities to prove how rich you are (all stupid things). That's what I have observed.
I support martial arts, fighting sports and meaninglrss competition as sport -- but not with regards to daily life. 'That' is toxic. I support collectivist policy that treats everyone as the ingroup and with respect. But in exchange they also have to respect the group.
I also see this in certain high income communties as well though. Typically in coastal states. Range Rovers, Gucci, Yachts and etc.
#BeforeTheInternetExisted Nobody complained about men not being able to express emotions. Though I figure the men who stormed up the World Trade Center complex on 9/11 were scared for what might happen, they suppressed their fears to help save countless live that otherwise might have been lost that day. I stand with my "#ToxicMasculinity"!
"Toxic masculinity" teaches men to be men.Quit complaining, don't cry when you stub your toe, stand up for your friends / family and for yourself, have a good time, if your friend's being an idiot punch 'em in the head, don't worry about what others think, be yourself, own your space / your words / your thoughts, be the best man you can be.
Something fabricated by the feminists - they really just hate men. There is NOTHING toxic about being a REAL MAN. Besides, that's what they REALLY want, deep down. Hell, even the most ardent feminist will occasionally admit they like to be sexuallt dominated. It's a bazillion years of biological programming.
Old timer, ya gotta calm.
no, people just call/link a shitty behavior and character to masculinity masculinity is about emotional or/and physical strength, generosity, good manners, taking care of family (responsibility), honor...(practiced correctly not in an obsessive extremist way)pseudo "toxic masculinity" is a way to call the sorry excuses of men
I don’t think it exists men need to be men and women need to be women men need to act in away that will get him to the next point in there lives being emotional won’t get us there especially when men are emotional we start swinging our fist
Toxic behaviours existMen can be toxicWomen can be toxicMasculinity isn't toxic though.You never see people complaining about toxic feminity when a woman insults another woman for her looks.It's just a term to attack men.
Toxic masculinity is an idea (dare I say social construct) that was created in the depraved imaginations of the Communists who created Feminism and run it to this day.In the manner claimed by Communists/Feminists, so-called toxic masculinity does not exist in the real world.
Disliking communists is fine, but comparing feminists to communists is basically the same as comparing trump and hitler. Some similarities may exist but lets be real, they are not the same thing.
Feminism was created by Communists as part of the plan set forth by Karl Marx, which required the destruction of the family unit.That was set out in the Communist Manifesto, of 1854.The leading lights of Feminism have been Marxists and usually Jews. Look it up. If I was on a desktop, rather than pecking at the screen of an iPhone with one finger, I would provide you with a link to a Jewish women’s publication, which claimed credit for the creation of Feminism.There are two types of Feminist. Communists who want to bring down Western Civilisation and their useful idiots.
Ah yes, which is why it makes sense that feminism began in the western countries of the usa, the uk, and france, because these were the countries that had supported communism so it made sense that feminism would rise there and not in the soviet union.Yeah that is sarcasm, because you are spouting pure propoganda. Just try defending what you wrote, I am certain you can't find evidence that links feminism and communism, all you will do is say "they both say people are equal so they are the same thing (even though this ignores that communism is about class equality where as feminism is about gender equality)".Name one of the suffragettes who was communist or jewish, because all the original feminists I know of were niether communist nor jewish. Susan Anthony, for example was an American christian woman who did not believe in communism.
Do your own research.I am walking in the dark with an iPhone, so I cannot provide links, or research.You make an argument out of ignorance.You appear to know nothing of the history of Communism.Communism began in the West, was funded by the capitalist plutocrats against whom Communists think they are fighting, and exported to Russia.The so-called Russian Revolution was funded by US Jewish bankers, who were fronted by a man named Jacob Schiff.A US Army intelligence report, dated 1919, which details the composition of the first Supreme Soviet, destroys any claim that there was anything Russian about the Russian Revolution.That report can be found in the Library of Congress.
Oh no, there is no issue of toxic masculinity. That is merely a smokescreen for the feminist agenda that is anti-masculinity all together. The problem is a lack of true masculinity.
Toxicity has no gender imo! However, many men are governed by their testosterone and they have zero control over it. I think the term refer to this kind of insecure men who have complexes and insecurities. That said, toxic females also exist, but their toxicity manifest differently!
It is a real thing. Science actually shows that more men actually commit suicide and some reasoning for why that is believed to happen is because men are told to bottle up their emotions more. To look fearless and feel no pain.
Indeed, but if there is a toxic masculinity, is there a toxic femininity?
Huh, I’ve never thought about that. Probably. You bring up a great point. I guess it would show itself in different ways though.
If it does, then so does toxic femininity. We’re all people here, equally capable of good and bad behavior. Your gender doesn’t make you immune or prone to being problematic
No. It just means that some fat feminists don't like it when men are men. One of the main goals of modern 3rd wave feminists is to turn men into quivering wusses with no spin. Now any male that shows decisiveness and strength is said to be toxic. It is another bullshit term which reflects the ultimate desire that feminists have to destroy western society.
No. It's something third wave feminists dreamed up so they can once again blame men for everything that has, is, or ever will go wrong. Like "the Patriarchy".
Yes there is, men thinking that everyone should be manly, strong, unable to show emotions—that’s toxic masculinity. Also, by thinking that his partner should whatever he said because he’s the man, and thinks women should stay in the kitchen.
Here are some examples:"boys / men never cry""all men are brawlers, who love fights"alpha / beta male BS"a real man (insert anything ridiculous here)"
My plan to get rid of it is by getting rid of it from my life and not repeating after the toxic traits. I encourage others to follow that plan if they see fit.
True mate, only thing I'm pissed about is the only widely agreed upon solution is to "cry" more.
Which... we are already doing privately.
"cry more" is not the solution. Cry if you have to but preferably do so in a locked room alone. People cannot be trusted.
Toxic masculinity doesn't exist. Assholes that only care about themselves exist but real masculinity isn't about that. Real masculinity is about taking care of his family in every way he can and being helpful to others.
The men who don't recycle because they think it looks gay, that is the perfect example of toxic masculinity. They're poisoning the earth because of their stupid beliefs about masculinity.
I have conflicting opinions on that topic, but take a look at this. This is when masculinity isn't such an idealistic thing.
Nope. It isn't. Just another peice of made up dribble from the progressives.
Why get rid of it. We need more of it and less feminism. In the end men rule and will always rule. The last time I checked when it comes to defending our freedom as we have it, it was men that fought for it and risked their lives not women.
Not really. I mean there is certainly toxic behavior, but both men and women do that. Trying to make it a masculinity thing I think is more just a feminist shaming tactic.
Women are attracted to “toxic” masculinity, period. No matter what they say deep down they like it. Then Freudian dynamics show men who is banging women and who isn’t. Jerks stay jerks because their bad behavior rewards them. Nice guys get treated like shit and struggle to change. Some improve but most are angry, confused and depressed.
That term has been twisted and manipulated to the point where any shred of masculinity is automatically labelled as toxic. Men can't even sit comfortably on public transport without feminist harpies screeching about it. Toxic masculinity is an invention of the feminists to tear down and berate men.
It doesn't. Like the "Alt Right".Straw-men enemies.
Apparently, it is. I don't suffer from it. It seems to exist in a parallel universe, one that I have nothing to do with.
Yes I believe so. If you don't want what you say or do to be said to you by a 7foot big naked man. Then don't say it to a woman or a friend.
I think the term is bad. It should be called something like society forcing men to act macho even when it’s mentally unhealthy or uncomfortable for them. But that’s too long.
men act the way the want to. don't make it sound like we all feel like girls on the inside and are afraid to show that
NO, there's only toxic behavior and it's not associated to any specific gender.
Y'all are some hateful mf on here I'm surprised someone hasn't killed themselfs yet... I think whoever need some positive post and not down them all time and
Yeah, if you get too much testosterone your balls will swell up so much you will automatically start harassing and beating up women because you are now patriarch.
Yes. A lot of folks (deliberately?) confuse "toxic" masculinity with *all* masculinity, which is not what that concept means at all. This is an attempt to dismiss the issue because, well, it's threatening.
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