Oh I thought that they had maintained control after the 6 day war.
They did, I just described what happened in the 6 day war.
Oh, I must be mistaking the 6 day war with another defensive war. I was under the impression that the 6 day war involved Iran and Egypt as well as a few other arab nations.
Not as far as I’m aware.
It's their historic homeland and center of worship.
I know but it was in palestines possession for 1300 years. Germans should have been the ones paying for what they've done. And I'm not just talking about money. They should have been evicted from their homes just like they did to their jewish friends, neighbors, colleagues. Not some random people who had the misfortune of living on a land that was jewish hundreds of years ago
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How did they start it? By being attacked?
Balfour declaration, Ben Gurion letter, Nakba, etc.They never intended to find a peaceful solution from the beginning.
The Balfour declaration has nothing to do with Israeli other than the British wanting a Jewish state. The Ben Gurion letter's doesn't mean it wasn't a defensive war. Nakba also does not change the fact that the war was not started by the arab nations.And just so you know Israel has on multiple occasions offered the Palestinian government their land back (up to 95%) and the Palestinians refused to negotiate.
How would you divide the West Bank? Assuming Hamas is no longer in power. And what of Jerusalem? Palestine, no matter who controls the government, isn't going to agree to a deal where they're not in control of it.
Certainly true on Jerusalem.What I would do, as far as that is possible, is to give the Palestinians legislative authority over all the Muslim holy sites, a little like the Jordanians right now, and easy access for the Palestinians to those places.Considering Israel will not budge on retaining sovereignty over Jerusalem, I guess the difference in bargaining position would settle it (Ideally). Or one could try to persuade the Palestinians (like allegedly the Saudis did) to have them accept a suburb of Jerusalem as sort of Honorary Jerusalem. On the West Bank, oh I don’t know. Strategically important places to defend it near the Jordan river and some border communities to Israel, Palestinians can have the rest and parts southern of the Westbank of Israel, to make up for the loss in land
Seems fair, however I don't think it's a good idea to give the Palestinians any part of Jerusalem without restrictions on their military application of said land, purely because of the animosity they hold against Israel.
Doesn’t matter what you give them muslims will not stop until every Israeli and Jew is dead
@Travis_SkylesMeh, any small militarized place in Jerusalem would be no substantial threat as it would just be overrun swiftly.But naturally, a deal can only survive in good faith so placing arms in areas not specifically transferred for that purpose should not happen.
@vald9inches1. 20% of the Israeli population is Muslims. And pf specific Muslim groups, a lot actually fight in the IDF.2. Is that why Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt and allegedly closer ties with most Gulf states? Or why they e. g. have worked together with Islamic states in the past, like Morocco?
Wow do you actually believe that facade? Lmfao only reason those countries have ties with Israel is because they have puppet leaders put into place and are under pressure by the west. Are you really an Israeli and jewish?
@vald9inchesI believe it because it would make zero sense for those nations to be remotely interested in eliminating Israel. They have literally nothing to gain from it. What they would get in war is nuclear and chemical warheads flying to their own capitals, massive civil unrest due to the great quantity of deaths, massive diplomatic problems with e. g. the US, Australia, India, Germany and all they would get is a destroyed land with Palestinians, supported by their main enemy Iran. Oh and that combined with the most potent opponent to their main enemy, Iran, gone And yes, I am an Israeli citizen and Jewish.
The UN would never allow such weapons and we are not talking about countries we are talking about Islam that has no borders. You of all people should realize how dangerous ideologies can be. You bring shame upon your people
@vald9inches Uh what do you mean the UN would not allow chemical weapons or nuclear weapons?It is pretty well known that Israel has nuclear weapons and chemical weapons.And when their survival depends on it, you can bet they will be used.
That's a false equivalency, Israeli has offered up to 95% of the land back and the Palestinians refused to even negotiate. So that dog has been given many chances to get out of that corner and instead chose to fight.
Until 2017 Hamas had the murder of all who follow the Jewish faith in their official charter, so the Israelis may have done some really bad things but they never supported genocide.
They've been offered up to 95% of their land back but they refused without negotiating at all. And as long as Hamas is in power, regardless of what they say about not wanting to kill all the Jews anymore, a 2 state solution will not work.
Before ww1 it was part of the Ottoman Empire. Palestine has never been an independent nation.
Yea but the Palestinian people were there before the Israelites in modern times
And what of the Israelites that live in Israel now? They make up the majority of the population in that area; to concede the land the Palestinians would put them under the control of a government that, until 2 years ago, had their extermination in their official charter.
I think that u burn some steps
The Palestinians have been offered up to 95% of their land on several occasions and refused each time with little to no negotiation.
It’s never that simple.
They refused to negotiate. As well as, for over a decade, made it part of their charter to kill all who follow the Jewish faith. They have no sympathy from me.
Palestine is not faultless either but the person who’s foot is on the neck of the other is rarely the oppressed. Yes there are groups that are very anti Israel and that is a legit issue , but the iron hand of Israel is not a form of negotiation.
If Byzantium exists it should rule the world.
Ok I’m not drunk now. Personally I think we should just split the country in half and half goes to the Palestinians and half goes to the Jews
@yucef should be iran based on what i said
Where the Jews acting like children under Hitler?
That was then, this is the 21st century. Not even comparable
Its very comparable because both ideologies wanted to exterminate all jews
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