Well said mostly. I have met many a liberal who shows they are two faced to their own values.If you are with them. It's all love and peace and tolerance. If you have a different view its bigot, racist and Repugtard.Hatred has a mouth piece in both parties. Usually from the less enlightened among them.
*Many a 'supposed' liberalI have nothing against Liberals who talk the walk. Not just bark the talk. Lol
@corerue Your different view could be racist, bigoted and repugtarded. If it is, prepare to be deep throated with intolerance.
@OddBeMe and that's where people lose me. Unless you are deeply hateful then I can agree to disagree with people.But to Deep Throat with Intolerance makes us no better then the hateful people we are facing. Its total hypocrisy to claim to be something your not. Sorrynotsorry lmao
None of this suggests you are politically independent. Sorry, but it suggests you are only "tolerant" of extreme right wing news sources..
@normalice Ah there he is, a typical radical left winger making baseless assumptions when someone has different political stances. With your logic, you’re a Stalinist.
yeah, the term "radical left winger" is a fiction creation by the radical right wing. An actual radical left wing would be a group of people who run around the country dragging rich people out of their homes and murdering their families in front of them. Any truly impartial person with a knowledge of history that extends beyond their own memory would know this for the redundantly reoccurring fact that it is. That you apply it to someone who disagrees with you on the internet makes it highly unlikely that you are just another trump supporter trying to borrow credibility by telling everyone you are independent.
@corerue Sorry, I believe in fighting fire with fire. If you say something racist you will get verbally assaulted and shamed. If you simply disagree with me about policy like affirmative action, we’ll simply have a convo.
@normalice Your entire premise is you making Straw man arguments and sweeping generalizations. How did you interpret a simple unbiased explanation of the bigotry of both parties as a sign of me being a “radical right winger”. Here you are calling me a radical right winger (which I’m not) simply for having a different stance than yours. Clearly you don’t know what a radical right winger is.And you have the audacity to claim that the radical left wing isn’t real? That’s you showing your biases. You ain’t fooling anybody. You come across as a guy who is oblivious to his own hypocrisy.
@normalice @adfsdf1996 White supremacists are numero uno on law enforcement’s hit list because they are linked to a majority of American terrorism. Which side do white supremacists go with? Right wing.
@OddBeMe White Supremacists are not synonymous with conservatives.
@adfsdf1996 Yes they are, unequivocally. All white supremacists vote Republican and are right wing. But are all Repubs white supremacists? Of course not.
@OddBeMe Even then, White supremacists don’t actually uphold or believe in republican values as a whole. They only vote republican because they don’t have their own party running. Your party and your ideology are not always synonymous with each other.Patrick Little, a neo nazi was kicked out of a republican convention for his extremist views. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/.../...htmlstory.htmlBut what do white supremacists have anything to do with this conversation and why did you interject yourself in my debate with “normalice”?
@adfsdf1996 yeah, you're doing that far-right thing where you basically just describe yourselves in the second person and hope it annoys the person you're talking to enough to shut them up.
@normalice There you go again using a sweeping generalization and a straw man argument. It shows that you don’t have any valid counter arguments. Funny how you are ignoring everything I said in my previous reply to you, I wonder why.And for your information fallacious rhetoric aren’t valid counter arguments.
You did it again. I don't understand why you would think building a stray man out of accusations of me building straw men would be anything other than transparent. But then, I don't speak trump so maybe it makes sense to people who desperately need it to.
@normalice Your entire premise is a straw man argument, as in you took my original comment and purposely misinterpreted it to make it easier for you to argue. That’s why your rhetoric is invalid, you are arguing against something I never said or implied in my original comment.
Is a mirror really the only tool in your shed? You keep calling me out on what you are doing and expect it to stick. Is russian your native language or something? Are you a bot?
@normalice I’m simply pointing out your fallacious rhetoric since that’s your only argument, what else is there to point out? You have yet to make a single valid counter argument to my original comment on this post and to my replies on this post. The fact that you can’t even form a single valid counter argument shows that you are also using an argument of pigheadedness also known as stubbornness to argue.And no I’m not a Russian bot, I’m human just like you. Once again you use a sweeping generalization fallacy.
If you're not a bot, why do you keep repeating the same lame "i know you are but what am i" nonsense? It sure seems like you are stuck in an infinite loop, struggling to find synonyms "no u."
@normalice Because you keep using fallacious rhetoric, it’s not that hard to understand.
I'm us in your rhetoric, though. QED.
@normalice Now you’re starting sound like a bot because that reply makes no sense at all.
*using. Damn autocorrect.
@normalice What does “QED” mean?
Do they not have logic as an academic topic in Russia? That actually explains why y'all are such frothing conservatives, i guess.
@normalice Are you thick? I never said anything about being Russian. I’m American.You lost this argument the moment you started making unwarranted assumptions which was your first reply.It’s funny how you are ignoring everything I say in an effort to sound credible with your digression.
It's just obvious that you're either a russian troll or so influenced by them it makes no difference. I do sometimes wonder what you think you're getting out of it. But be it a pat on the head by putin or the feeling that you're finally making the liberals feel the same despair you felt when they made a black guy president, it doesn't matter. They are the same spite-based idiocy your kind is incapable of growing out of. Stop rubbing your open blisters on people, you gross weirdo.
@normalice You must have low iq, since you continue to make faulty assumptions just because you know you lost this debate.Apparently anyone who disagrees with you is either a Russian bot or a Trump supporter. Which is a false dichotomy. Funny how you like to spout off insults yet you get mad when someone calls you a radical left winger.
Stop describing yourself at me. It's starting to become tedious redirecting your insecurities back to you. I am not your psychologist - you are going to have to deal with the inferiority complex of your county, yourself.
@normalice Ironic, I was under the impression that you were the one projecting.
Most of those trump supporters who are unencumbered by self awareness would be, yeah. So no surprises there..
@normalice Who ever said I’m a Trump supporter?
Oh. Sorry, were you trying to keep that a secret?
@normalice Continuing to make baseless assumptions and loaded questions aren’t you commie?And no, I actually wanted Gary Johnson to win in the elections of 2016.
Continuing to repeat yourself, eh trump supporter?And no. Regardless of who you voted for in 2016, you're still a trump supporter. It's one of those "quacks like a duck" things. You could tell me you wrote in Bernie in 2016 if you wanted, but the fact still remains that >here and now< you don't deviate much from the script of far-right rhetoric.
@normalice Don’t project, you’re the one that’s repeating fallacious rhetoric since you have no other arguments and are too stubborn to admit that you’ve lost the argument. Hence you continuing to mudsling and throw insults.The problem with your premise is that you are taking my original comment out of context to argue against something I neither said nor implied. But of course I’m not surprised since you PC folk sure like to invent issues where there aren’t any issues.
I'm only repeating after you. That's my new argument scheme with trump supporters is to just keep repeating what they say back to them to see what they really think of their own arguments. You have a real shitty opinion of yourself, by the way. Typical trump supporter..
@normalice You’re the one who lacks new material moon bat, you keep throwing the same mudslinging insults and fallacious rhetoric. All I’m doing is pointing out your faulty logic.
Isn’t that Trumpkins playbook?
@OddBeMe Trump doesn't need a playbook because the left shoots itself in the foot every day.
Not gonna disagree about Dems. But Trump can shoot both his feet in one sentence.
@OddBeMe Yes, it is a circus in Washington.
Also, which party wants to take away more women’s rights?
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So, when guest speakers in universities are being shouted down, interrupted and called horrid intolerant things that's the tolerance of the Democractic party? Liberals or the left?Both sides have their issues. Deep, deep ones at that. They also have there hypocrisy as well.
@Corerue that's likely just a bunch of boisterous college students doing their thing when an idiot talks to the educated, acting like he's supposed to be taken seriously. While college students tend to vote democratic more so than republican, to call them "the democratic party" is simply willful ignorance - exactly the sort of thing, in fact, that would get you shouted down if you were to make such a stupid claim in front of a bunch of educated people.
Well I'm meaning like Ben Shapiro (college educated, lawyer (iirc), fairly sharp) and mainly Jordan Peterson (I like his motivating-self care/drive talks and overall philosophy).And apologies, college students I know call themselves the True Democratic Party. It... is a real drag as in Alaska we are sort of the dead end road in national politics lol.Myself. I do my best to be an independent middle of the road sort. I don't like the blues or the reds. They both have contributed immensely to the systematic problems in the country and seem hellbent on exacerbating the issues instead of fixing them.For, well, job security lmao.
@Corerue Ben Sharpio isn't the kind of "sharp" that would win him any sort of logic contest. He's "sharp" in the way a con man is sharp - excellent at bullshitting and appearing to know what he's talking about, without actually knowing much at all. People have very little patience for bullshit on a college campus (unless it's in their own thesis, lol). Unfortunately, this has kind-of become the republican standard of debate practice. It's hard take the 'both sides" argument seriously when only one side seems to make that argument (instead of ever arguing the topic). Republicans tend to cram several assertions into each sentence, proving none of them, so that it's impossible to keep track of everything without spending hours unraveling a sentence spoken in under a minute. And, when one tries to summarize a response with a simple "that's all bullshit," republicans default to the 'both sides' argument. The "i should get equal time" thing that would only make sense if they had agreed to debate by equal rules. Which they absolutely never will.
Sounds like you’re afraid of “fags”. We always fear what we’re becoming.
@OddBeMe Ok sigmund freudI dont fear anything besides God. God has given me his armor and given me sight. The only thing I am BEING, is a servant of God. BECOMING is a false state and is from the Devil, no one becomes, everyone is born, and everyone is.
So was God born?
@OddBeMe God is eternal, He Is. God isn't limited to material.
Please provide proof of this. How do you know anything is eternal? Astrophysicists can’t determine if our universe is eternal or not.
All you have to do is look at completely Democrat controlled California for that answer
Clearly- wait, oh right! Donald Trump. Sorry Repubs. Dems win again. By that I mean the popular vote.
It's a shame you decided to go Anon because you gave a great answer.
@MoscowMitch Thanks man. Religion and politics are something i'm almost always going to go anon on because it's such a polarizing subject.
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