Because a lot of men on here are religious freaks who want to control other people lives
@NorthwestRider not necessarily you are right that most Abrahamic religion do feel that way, however there are non-religious man who believe that gender roles are important we know this because the society has thrived on generals even from caveman times remember there wasn’t this idea of sexism back in 10,000 BC it was recognized that women were there to raise children and gather food like berries tubers and other plant foods while men would hunt over the course of the years dynamics has changed but ultimately they have stayed the same is evolutionary Beneficial to have gender roles
10,000 BC, that was a long time ago. A lot has changed since that time Also, the right wing Christians are not that different than the Muslims. Both believe the same nonsense
@NorthwestRider right but the conspiracy of gender roles hasn’t change in 10,000 years why because you get healthy children who are raise properly. They have a father in there life to teach the children how a man is suppose to be and the mother teaches them culture take care of the house buys the groceries and look after the kids (if kids aren’t in the equation of course women should work but if kids are in the equation women should work until the kids are off to college) gender role are essential to family life you can’t have a healthy family with out it. Also you notice that Abrahamic Religions. Also atheism is just as much as a religion as Christian muslims and Jews. The only way you can say your not religious is to be agnostic and say you don’t know which is right
Thanks for the most helpful opinion.
What makes it out dated? Are you going to deny the prevalent and observable psychological difference between men and women?
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I believe in the power of free will. Not to sound arrogant, but do you ever worry humans haven’t developed enough self awareness to be given the freedom to make wise decisions by themselves? Or is it necessary to have certain societal guidelines to adhere to? I believe in the natural way, and therefore the former. Perhaps I’m too naive. Roles have been a natural biological adaptation, I think. Though as you say the world is always changing. Nothing stays the same. In terms of the family unit, it seems more healthy to me for a parent to be at home while the kids are growing up. How else can the essential relationships be developed, if both parents are extremely busy with full time jobs, house work AND paying bills. We have filled the short time we have here with this hectic chaos. It’s unnecessary stress. Some people seem to like it. Maybe I’m being too negative. Sorry for writing an essay.
To make clear: when I said I believe in the former, I meant to say I like to think humans have the natural innate ability to flow with nature when given the chance.
@LalaMeme What you are saying makes perfect sense and also reinforces what I am saying, people have the right to chose what roles suit them, if it is the traditional route so be it, I am not bashing it but it is becoming less common as you know many households need two incomes to support themselves and it is only fair that both genders share the domestic duties in this case. I have friends who have 3 kids and both work short weeks, I'd say if they could afford one salary, there would be an almighty tussle for the right to stay home. As to worrying about free will, yes a but I would worry more if there was no free will. The way I look at it is 99% of family units are doing something right whatever path they have chosen. To keep at the Free Will idea, if we imposed our views on their lives that would make us an even bigger culprit. By the way you weren't too naive or negative just very thoughtful, curious - A very good way to be
Ah yes I see what you mean with regards to imposing views on others. Kinda like preaching. The idea of being controlled by a centralized will of the few is worrying. I don’t fully buy the idea of it all being the evil patriarchy’s fault either, but that would be a discussion for another day.And maybe this is too simplistic, but basically; let it be, and if you wish to lead others, lead from behind. Be the example of a person who has a healthy relationship with themselves and others. Overall, If the household has a natural, healthy flow that works, why worry so much on the gender roles that should and shouldn’t be placed in the family?
@LalaMeme Possibly that is where we are going with free will/choice where it doesn't matter what the pre conceived concepts are as long as you do what feels right for you and your family. Whether it is the right choice or not can influence society's perception of its own attitudes. I think the point we are both making is there is no right or wrong answer, people and society naturally evolve and adapt. Some may even adapt by keeping the traditional roles in a changing world.
Agreed. Have enjoyed this discussion thank you
Like if it wasn’t a typical male asset to have short hair I wouldn’t wanna have long hair, if still want it short even if we were allowed to have it long,I jus naturally like to act masculine