He can be drafted and you can't, because you have a va jayjay.
@KrakenAttackin nobody has been drafted since the Vietnam war and compulsory draft is no longer in effect in the USA. You have to voluntarily sign up for the selective service to be drafted.
Yes I have served in the Army, 5.5 years including two tours in Iraq, and I still serve as an officer in the Reserves. There has been no draft since 1973, so anyone who entered the service since that time is or has been serving voluntarily, both men and women. Your rant is therefore both baseless and uninformed.
Kudos to you for your service. Not so much for your brain, since the US of A isn't EVERY COUNTRY in the world, and your assumption everyone on the planet lived under US rules are silly (but then we are not all aware of our surroundings)
What country are you talking about then?
Well, your former ally, Yugoslavia. I joined in war years (the sentiment was as described though I never went to the front line - and left it when I realised they were fighting on the wrong side. Initially, it was advertised as fighting Islam (and some of it was - but some of it was a mix of disguised islamists causing trouble so they can both terrorise the local Christians (which they most certainly succeeded in doing) by playing on their fear from anti-Ottoman/anti-Islamic uprisings for which traditionally you would escape to the Catholic/Austro-Hungarian Croatia.
... and by causing a military response by the western powers so they could embarres them/show them to be colonial/corrupt (in essence just anti-Islamic, but Yugoslavia unfortunately got scared of the Iranian Islamic revolution way back in 79 - what is not in the EU today essentially sided with Iran - the mixed in Islamists (Turks run half of the Balkans) misguided the rest into believing the west was an oppressor that was bound to fail - and Iranian Islamic views were righteous and much much stronger.For a population that lived under Islam for 500 years during the Ottoman empire, it didn't take much to succumb - muslims/the Turks actively loved, promoted and enforced it - the rest left or lived in fear and without saying much since they would end up in trouble with the regime for opposing it.
@John_Doesnt No Sir. Registering with selective service is MANDATORY for all MEN when they turn age 18 in the U. S.
@KrakenAttackin Yes, REGISTERING for Selective Service is still mandatory for men upon turning 18, but it's merely registration. It's highly doubtful a draft would ever happen except in an all out national emergency, and even then it's highly unlikely the government could re-institute the draft even if it wanted to. Other than having a list of names, there are no mechanisms in place to reinstitute draft boards which would be vital to implement it. There's been a lot of discussion about doing away with the Selective Service because it sucks millions of tax dollars and doesn't do anything other than maintain a list. Selective Service has become an anachronism; we simply don't need it anymore, but many will cling to it citing a need to maintain it as a contingency for a worst case scenario. As far as registering women with the Selective Service (as long as it exists), I say go for it - ladi dadi everybody, men and women, get your name on a list to be called up in a national emergency. As far as I'm concerned, every man AND woman should give at least two years of their lives to public service. Funny thing though, quite a few of the men who pound their fists for equality when it comes to registering for a currently hypothetical draft are ones who are opposed to women serving in the military - especially combat arms - in the first place. And many of the women who are beating the drums demanding equal opportunity for women in all aspects of military service are keyboard commandos who have no desire to serve in the military and have no dog in the fight.
I served in the Navy (flew an F-18 until an accident), and I think women have no business in combat arms.
Well you have my apologies for assuming (and we know what that means) you were talking about the United States and the draft. Yugoslavia is an enigma to most of us, since it's post Cold War history has been so complex and countries of the FRY seem to have taken on a life of their own. Most maps these days refer to Yugoslavia as Serbia, except it still refers to itself as Yugoslavia. My dad was with the military attache office at the US Embassy in Belgrade before the staff was told to leave because of the "Kosovo matter." I never got a chance to visit there.
@KrakenAttackin no it's not required. https://www.usa.gov/selective-serviceThe only penalty is that you can't receive government aid of any kind. So if you choose not to get student aid, then you're not required to sign up for selective service. Also, it's only for men between 18 - 25 and it's pretty easy to avoid it.
@KrakenAttackin here is the only penalty for not registering: https://www.sss.gov/Home/Men-26-and-OLDERYou can't get federal aid or a federal job. That's it. That's the big bad penalty. So you're not required to register if you don't plan on receiving federal aid or working for the government.
@KrakenAttackin I don't think most men belong there either. When it comes to women serving in combat arms specialties, it's not my pet rock. And for those women carrying the flag shouting for an equal opportunity to serve in combat specialties, I've told them when they came to me that if they're trying to champion a cause and what motivates them is being one of the pioneer women in combat specialties or breaking some barrier, then they need to go sit in their sandboxes and re-think it. But if they want in because the truly want to do what the job requires, then fine, the opportunity is there - go for it - but do the damn job. And if you can't do the damn job, stand by to be reassigned to a job you can handle. That applies equally to men and women.
@John_Doesnt Yes, it's required, but there's no commitment to enforcement so therefore it's a pretty hollow requirement. You've pointed out the worse that can happen. There are many ways to register those in the age window, one of which is for the state to do it for you at the time you apply for issue or renewal of a driver's license - and many do. But as I've pointed out separately, the Selective Service system is an anachronism that will eventually go away. It's millions spent on simply maintaining a list of names for a system that would be a bridge too far to implement even if the government wanted to anyway.
@LuvMeSomeBoys Just (please) remember Turkey, as a proxy of Iran, runs most of the show over there. Whilst both are essentially defunct and too corrupt on the inside - it is no trivial matter for Europe. Americans will find it very difficult to recognise those behaviours (and they put up a front very quickly over there in presence of any foreigners - I've had the misfortune of hearing people talk once they are at liberty to express their intimate views).To see - not a whole lot there - it's OK, but hardly astounding. No antic Greek stuff (except in southern Macedonia), and the architecture is better in Europe/from Austria further north and west.It used to have some smarts and beautiful people, but those were mostly Croatians, Slovenes and Russians who escaped there after the October revolution in 1917, and who left to USA/Canada/Europe/Australia (or Russia/Israel) after the Yugoslav breakup started.It's forceful and abusive often - not because everyone there likes it, but someone clearly promotes that agenda (most likely Turkey or the middle eastern someone - apparently there is a huge Serbian population in Istanbul still, and they seem to travel back and forth - and are for some reason prone to violence (and genocide))
soleil2666 Thanks for the insight :-)
@LuvMeSomeBoys Don't mention it. I am in Belgium now, used to work for the EU, also an Australian citizen. Very much on the same side. Always was, just had to endure the islamo-communism of the Balkans until I had a chance to escape it.
5 to 1 says this obviously right-wing incel is also against females serving on the front line
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that's exactly what an incel would say
I wouldn't know - it doesn't exist where I am from
You are not a woman, my gay friend
Didn't say I was a woman. But on the subject of gays, takes one to know one eh? I can stand being called a gay. But can you stand living as one, old man?
Lol. Especially at 'old man'. No, you were clearly not offended. Thanks for the sentiment, but we're not friends. 'My guy' sounds too islamic to me.Get to 42 first, then call me names
When I do, so long as I am not as narrow-minded as you, I will be happy. Something which you clearly aren't. But enjoy your days, old-timer.
There's only one person in this conversation feeling old - and it isn't me. I'm happily just a very serious 16y. o, what can I do 🤷♂️
Well it's criteria for equality. I'm not stuck on it, just trying to keep up.
Not mad - trying to be equal
Who is this aimed at? Blacks or women?
Women. Do blacks not serve the army?