Ten billion is a tenth of what goes towards Medicare now. Universal healthcare isn't fifty bucks a month, it's a third of your paycheck.
Ten billion dollars would fund the healthcare system for like a day.
So much of your comment is so true and I agree with it 100%, all except that universal health care system which many countries have and ask those people how well it works. I'm from Florida and during the winter I see so many Canadian's (friends with many) and listen to them tell the horror stories of universal health care. Need surgery, you wait and wait until they can fit you in and many downfalls such as that. lolcraft's comment also gives you the true costs.
@katiesmuff The pleasures of being Canadian. Ask me how long the wait was for mommy back surgery. Go ahead.
@lolcraft I'm curious; how long?
@katiesmuff Two years. I was in constant sever pain and could barely walk.
@lolcraft Same stories I get from my Canadian friends, wait for hip surgery, wait for heart surgery, wait for most any surgery and god them if they get hospitalized while vacationing outside of Canada.
Thanks, I'll give it a watch when time permits!
Damn my English in the first phrase was not understandable 😂😅
It's okay, I also drink at times.
🤣🤣It's more because I just woke up when I wrote it.
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That would be great if that happens, but I'm doubtful that it will. The corporations with a vested interest in the current screwed up system and their powerful Republican allies will make sure to block any substantive beneficial change. And if Trump says something's bad, 40+% of Americans will just believe him without even considering the possibility that he could be wrong.I doubt that universal healthcare is going to happen until there's a Democrat in the White House, a significant Democratic majority in the House, and a filibuster-proof Democratic majority in the Senate and that last one is not likely to happen for a long time.
@CallMeDave yeah i was just saying what would be better, not what's realisticly gonna happen :D i mean i only see Bernie dropped out again, like last time. so we are stuck with turds again. a 2 party political democracy doesn't work either way. too little competition. too much similarity. no sensible solutions possible.
So it's one big plot. A conspiracy. Got it. Now you can go back to your bunker.
@coffeewithcream so if you got it, why the thumbs down for
I only put one thumb down. I wasn't given the option of putting two thumbs down.
@coffeewithcream. If you agree why the thumbs down
Beautification no, but actual health issues?
So when I comes to emergency, E. G you get into a car accident and you ling collapsed because of the accident obviously the doctors are going to treat you. But say you have cancer under the current system you pay the same price regardless of the hospital your going to with not price transparency, so you don’t know what your paying. (Making up number here to use as an example) if you had price transparency you would get more competition amongst hospitals say you can do to a hospital in seattle a chemotherapy is 100 bucks per treatment and a hospital in Tacoma offers 50 bucks per treatment then you can save money by driving from seattle to Tacoma and getting the Chemotherapy for a cheaper price, the technology is the same the price is different, same healthcare different price, it’s like the difference between Night quill and Z quill same product one is common brand one is off brand does the same thing but Zquil is cheaper
There's nothing Americans won't reduce to money.How nauseating.
@Levin yes that’s called free market capitalism it makes everything run more efficiently, Also 1 we don’t trust our government to run something as important as healthcare and 2 the United States couldn’t afford it, Elizabeth Warren came out with a budget for a plan about 30 trillion dollars a year to get Americans Universal health it will never work in the United States because of lack in trust in government and population which affects affordability the U. S would have to become more authoritarian if they were to Be able to make it work
The US spends 17% of its GDP on healthcare, the UK 10%. And we afford universal coverage. So it would suggest that healthcare is an exception to that. Besides, it's clear corporations can't be trusted either.
@Levin right either of them can be fully trusted, we see that with our healthcare system now, it’s not socialized healthcare nor is it free market healthcare. That 17% of our GDP spent on healthcare goes into Innovation Medicaid and Medicare (Medicaid is for low income house holds and Medicare is for the elderly over 65). But why should a healthy 40 year old making 100,000-200,000 a year not pay for there healthcare. We’re the opposite of Canada, Canada have Government sponsored health care with elements of private healthcare. The U. S has private healthcare with elements of socialized healthcare. We do have 1 system of Ford government healthcare the VA and every former military personnel I’ve talked to say it’s the worst healthcare system they we and the prefer to rely on private healthcare. If the government can’t take care of the people fight for our country properly, then they clearly can’t take care of the other 328 million Americans properly.
I'm not American myself so I'm just curious.
Ironically, Germany's health insurance system is based on insurance companies and private hospitals, so it can be done. The difference is that they are regulated and wouldn't get away with price gouging.en.wikipedia.org/.../Healthcare_in_Germany"The healthcare system is regulated by the Federal Joint Committee (Gemeinsamer Bundesausschuss), a public health organization authorized to make binding regulations growing out of health reform bills passed by lawmakers, along with routine decisions regarding healthcare in Germany. The Federal Joint Committee consists of 13 members, who are entitled to vote on these binding regulations. The members composed of legal representatives of the public health insurances, the hospitals, the doctors and dentists and three impartial members. Also, there are five representatives of the patients with an advisory role who are not allowed to vote.The German law about the public health insurance (Fünftes Sozialgesetzbuch) sets the framework agreement for the committee. One of the most important tasks is to decide which treatments and performances the insurances have to pay for by law. The principle about these decisions is that every treatment and performance has to be required, economic, sufficient and appropriate.  "Of course, since the American Republicans won't even allow the Federal Election Commission to perform their duties (no quorum, because McConnell won't put anyone forward), a similar system would probably find itself hamstrung in short order.
Had there been a well liked, business minded, somewhat honest candidate running against him, he would never have won the election. I voted for him only because his platform was heading the right direction and I (and apparently millions of others) certainly didn't want that confirmed liar, cheater witch that was his opponent. Both parties could have done much better with their choices of candidates.
We already have a public healthcare system that leads the world in cures, survival rates and nobel prizes.The main reason it is so expensive is because the government keeps adding red tape, which forces hospitals and insurance companies to hire more lawyers and compliance personnel to their payrolls. All those people need to be paid and given space and equipment to work with, plus people to main6that space and equipment.
Than that shoud be improved
... yeah freeing the slaves was a mistake right? And fuck class mobility to... who needs it! Born a serf, stay a serf, am I right? Buying slaves from African slave traders and then freeing them, yeah, what a bunch of assholes! And disobeying britain and instituting a more free, more prosperous society which survived without tyranical rule for some time, that was a big mistake eh? We should have remained a colony and let britain charge us as much tax as they want! That's fair, right? Being a serf is fair yeah? Fucking read a book god damnit stupid fucking kids fuck me
@Shamalien I said nothing about the enslaved but go ahead and go on a tangent. You're really simplifying what the enslaved went through don't you think?
No other country freed them before america
@Shamalien actually we were one of the last countries to free the enslaved.
@Shamalien read a fuckin book.
That’s factually incorrect
@Shamalien eat shit. I have a sourcewww.google.com/.../idUSL1561464920070322
"1777 - State of Vermont, an independent Republic after the American Revolution, becomes first sovereign state to abolish slavery" last time i checked vermont was in America :P also many places which 'abolished' it before and after vermont did not completely abolish it, it was only partial and did not apply to all slaves. "United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808." so this was the first time an entire country completely abolished it, not making any exceptions for colonies or certain parts of america.
@Shamalien we literally had a war over slavery.
'literally' look if you don't like your own source I can't help you
just to be extra clear in case you didn't realize...IM QUOTING YOUR OWN SOURCE
it is true that 11 confederate states seceded from the union and fought to keep slaves for a brief period of time, but that doesn't change the fact that america was the first country to abolish it, and vermont was the first state, and vermont is in america. you need to actually READ your source lol and then do some additional reading as well for context
@Shamalien "state of Vermont, an independent Republic" Once again, an independent republic.
look you've clearly been ignoring what im saying and aren't interested in learning about American history so just fuck off. Yeah, vermont was an independent republic IN AMERICA, you know, that place that was free from British rule due to the revolutionary war. You think vermont was not part of the declaration of independence? If you knew anything about American history you'd know that it wasn't supposed to be some vast empire like it was now, it was a collection of independent states, that is the true america, not this bullshit we have today. your just pissing me off because you care more about being right than knowing the intricacies of history. You also ignored my second quote, you know, the one where the union BANNED SLAVERY. Yes, some states seceded and wanted to keep slaves, we all know about the civil war, that doesn't change that america was the first country to abolish it and that vermont, A STATE IN AMERICA, was the first state in the world to make any headway at all in that direction. America was a bastion of freedom and it inspired the world, if you knew anything about the revolutionary war you'd get a better historical context for why America defended human rights more than any other place on the planet. It's become a corrupt piece of shit so i can kinda see why people are hating, but you DO NOT go insulting historical america and spreading lies. The country was NOT built on the misfortune of others, SO FUCK OFF WITH THAT PROPAGANDA
@Shamalien an independent republic.
Haha, yeah, that would be the way insurance companies will probably want to deal with it. They have no problem collecting big premiums from healthy people that don't cost them much, but as soon as you have an expensive illness they'll want to exclude it.
aren't the democrats the ones who are currently blocking any attempts?
I meant "it won't change for the better" Since when have the Republicans proposed legislation that would make health care more accessible for the working class? There's a lovely article in the New Yorker this week about how Alabama's failure to expand Medicaid leaves women to die of very treatable cervical cancers.
Dozens of school changes haven't forced a change in gun control. You think a hundred thousand premature deaths will lead to change?
What legislation? The stupid fucking democrats lead by that Genius Pelosi did nothing since Trump was elected except try to get him impeached which anyone knew that it would never happen. Possibly they could have used all that time to work with the republicans in congress and actually made some progress.
@katiesmuff the Republicans refused to work with Obama, why do you imagine they would be responsible now?
If you are watching closely you should see that actually if anything it's not the conservatives but the liberals taking a much larger loss during these times as it seems to have much to do about our living conditions in general. Think! How my conservatives do you think live in NYC, LA, Chicago? Also if you took a real look it is the conservatives who actually have the better insurance options.
How about the system of Germany. ? U could also adapt the education system. Then education would be also free. Nobody has to go into dept because he got cancer or wanted to study. The medical bill is even paid if u try to kill ur self. Plus the hospitals belong to the best in the world.So before u laugh about Italy and that so many people died. Think twice. There is always someone better😉
As a non American who seems to know more about our government than us simpletons that actually live here and vote, why don't you explain in length your knowledge of the US system of government and how Russia controls us? Please Please We're very anxious to see your report.
The healthcare system won't change. Russia wins in it. Despite IMF in your country, not much emphasis of its existence but just like any other FI. 80% Americans did not vote for Trump. How do you think that happened. Trump is more interested in economic growth rather than people. Why do you think trump did not care? Do you think Obama would have been better? Have a read - mitrokhin archive ii the the kgb in the world.
This book is banned in some countries I guess.
Please stay in India as you have now proven you have no idea what is going on. First of all 80% of Americans have NEVER EVER voted against any candidate for President.
No one has clear idea lols