He’s impressive cuz most of Americans leadership are just a bunch of old clowns without management or real deal problem solving skills. Find someone better than Cuomo, you can’t. Cuz most stink way worse
@nelly83 Be specific. His policies are pretty much standard fare - not anything that any other governor is not pursuing. He demands freedom of action - and then much like many of the Governors then expects the Federal government to pick up the tab.Indeed, most of his press conference today - a/20/2020 - was little more than one long session of bellyaching about how the state needs more time and more money. Of the former, he demanded - and got - complete reassurances of his absolute authority to end the lockdown when he chooses, regardless of Federal action. Of the latter, if you could explain why the taxpayers of Florida should pay though their taxes for the Governor of New York to pursue the policies he prefers, that might clarify matters.Don't get me wrong, the Governor has been perfectly adequate, but nothing special. Indeed, not without some level of talking out of both sides of his mouth. He wants control, and he wants someone else to pay for it and be accountable for it.Par for the course in American politics. That said, such an attitude - and a daily press conference where he gets to be a prima donna not unlike the President he often criticizes - hardly defines leadership.
Because NY state is broke right now. NY state simply doesn’t have the funds to conduct massive testing , which he is begging for right now. Andrew Cuomo was nearly in tears when he found out 2020 NY state was getting nothing this year other than 500 million only for coronavirus related expenses, which isn’t even enough for massive testing that Cuomo had been begging for so long Cuomo is a great governor because he is not only a great man who is humble, logical, transparent , personable, vulnerable but he also has great ideas about how the federal government should be running covid supplies around the country to different states. The states in highest covid cases should have the ventilators first. Then these huge ton of ventilators can be passed around to other states, where covid cases are not increasingly at a nearly high rate. By the time these supplies reach these formerly less problematic states, the huge ton of ventilators would be of great use to them. People like him because of the way he thinks, communicates , his integrity, along with his transparent thinking. How many other governors do you see that have his type of personality and sympathy? This is a guy that has shown he truly cares. Right , he might not be a master mind who can come up with a genius solution to absolutely everything but this guy is unique one of a kind governor
Might’ve not explained it clearly enough. Federal government should be responsible for buying the ventilators , not the states. Because there should never ever be a bidding war Between a nation for life saving equipment. States with biggest need for ventilators should be served first. After the crisis peaks and lowers , then these left over ventilators should be shipped to other states where the need for it is increasing at a much lower rate. This was what he said and I couldn’t agree more. First governor I’ve ever seen who actually has management skills.
@nelly83 This is long on generalities, short on specifics.The Governor was sworn into office in 2011. Why is the state, in 2020, still broke? Is he not responsible for that? Begging he is, but anything that he gets he takes from the taxpayers of other states whose fiscal record, in many cases, may be better and who, in any case, did not have a say even in his election, let alone the policies he has pursued. There is no free lunch, but the Governor is demanding one.Indeed, today he asked for hazard pay for frontline workers in his state. Yet another demand for money for a policy he wants to pursue. This neglecting that other states have their own frontline workers whom they may wish to pay - this assuming that they don't have to pay NY via Washington.As to ventilators, the governor demanded 40,000. He got them from the Federal government. He needed only 5,000 and is now merrily handing them out. Basically offering charity to others who might not have needed it had the Governor been less reckless.Suffice to say, it is problematic. Each state has its own health care system. What principle is it that asserts that somehow ventilators are the strict purview of the Federal government? What makes them different from, say, X-ray machines, for example?Sorry, the Governor has been perfectly adequate, but nothing special. He just gets credit because, by being on television every day spouting banalities, people confuse mere prominence for actual leadership.
If you have been following Cuomos press conferences all along , you would have realized that he mentioned that his need for 40k ventilators , which trump never supplied, was based off of the covid case projections based off of what the White House docs sent him. So it Wasn’t Cuomo that saw in a dream that he needed 40k ventilators. This number was based off of a projected number of NY covid cases White House docs handed over to him, and plus governors are responsible for their own individual states, if your gov is not fighting for you hard enough, you shouldn’t blame Cuomo for doing the best he can for his state
As for the hazard pay, governor Cuomo is not responsible for other states. NY is his baby. So again, you cannot hate on him for being great at caring for NY
@nelly83 As you can tell, I have been following them. Yes, he did get them - where else do you think that they turned up from? His protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.Yes, by the way, you nailed it. Governors are responsible for their states, the problem being that Cuomo wants to leverage the Federal government to make every other state responsible for his states.Suffice to say, you have yet to articulate a principle generally applicable to why the other states should be obliged to do so. Moreover, take away to NY, and the rest of the country ranks only 11th in the number of virus infections. It is NY's abysmal track record that makes the whole country number 1 in that tally.As I say, it is hardly a tribute to the Governor's leadership.
@nelly83 Cuomo is a globalist tyrant.
@nelly83 BS. Trump knows bey than to give idiots like Quomo unrestricted funds. Also, with the highest taxes, highest fees, highest everything, why doesn't NY have funds for emergencies? Because of horrific liberal mismanagement.
He didn’t get them and you aren’t following his daily press conferences closely enough, I remember for a week, he had mentioned that he only had enough ventilators for another 6 days for NY state. For any further patients that die after the 6 day period , they are simply going to die. “ you are on your own” , he said in one of his conferences. He said this just a few days NY before that 6 day Stock pile of ventilators wad gone. And now this is the second time that you’re mistaken about the facts. I follow my governor everyday so don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. Judging from your overall statements, it seems like your priority is constantly the “ other states “. You are constantly diverting or under mining the needs of NY, and ridiculing our governor for his relentless efforts to save his state. And the fact is, Cuomo whines so much because NY State didn’t have the immense budget for 40k ventilators. he is absolutely correct the federal government SHOULD be paying for the ventilators rather than states going into a bidding war for life saving equipment, which is unethical. I don’t see how you can blame Cuomo for saying this. You have your own governor too to fight for you too. You are simply worried that such a proactive caring gov like Cuomo can get his state better care than your own gov can get your State. Comes from simple jealousy. If your gov was just as good at fighting for your state , you wouldn’t have such comments.
@KrakenAttackin there is a state budget and federal budget. Federal budget takes most of New Yorkers taxes. State takes a much lower percentage. The buying of ventilators SHOULD be a federal govt duty because state budgets are too small for it. 1 ventilator costs 35,000-45,000. multiply that by 40,000 ventilators. How much would it cost the state? Every year each state is supposed to get an about of money from the federal government. In 2020, NY received nothing other than 500M for coronavirus expenses. Cuomo was nearly in tears
@nelly83 Mam, you are beating a dead horse. He had far more than he asked for and is now giving them away. By any measure, that hardly stands the governors competence in good stead. Presumably he had to pay for such resources, so even if you are right - and you are not - that he is now giving away resources paid for with tax dollars is no tribute to his skills.The Governor has been perfectly adequate, but nothing more then that. Certainly not deserving the accolades that have been bestowed upon him by uncritical observers who conflate press conferences with good policy.To repeat, the infection and fatality rates do not suggest that the Governor has been especially effective. There are too many corpses - compare New York to California which imposed their lockdowns within four days of each other - to make any great claims on the Governor's behalf.
I suggest you stop your arrogance because as I’ve mentioned before. He had replied to trump in his press conferences, that the 40,000 ventilator protection was based off of an estimate of the number of people that the White House thought that would be sick by the end of April. Cuomo didn’t make up the number in his dreams, it was based on a mathematical model provided from the White House doctors. Maybe actually follow his press conferences instead of pretending you do?
As please don’t blame Cuomo for the high number of infection rates, NYC has a density and high population unmatched by any other state within the US. Don’t demonize our governor by your ignorance jealously and stupidity
@nelly83 Yes, you keep repeating that. Yet the numbers are where they are. If it is your preference to hero worship adequacy, that is your prerogative. You may argue that New York has a high population density - so does Los Angeles - but the point is that were the Governor the model of brilliance you affect him to be, he would have compensated for that. Again, the body count begs to differ.Worship the Governor as you will - certainly there is a wing in the Democratic party that would love to have him either as VP or as indeed as its presidential nominees. However, he was not especially prescient - he first condemned Trump's initial travel ban, you may recall - nor have his policies been notably above average in terms of their effectiveness.He labors under certain limits given the nature of his state. That said, while he has been competent, there is nothing to suggest that he has been particularly brilliant or effective given those limits. Which was and remains my point.
NYC is wayy more dense and populated than LA. In LA, the city is big enough for people to still mainly travel by car. NYC is so dense that cars aren’t needed. Using your ignorance and lack of knowledge to shit on our governor. I do admire my governor and I feel immensely lucky to have a governor like him upon that first press conference I’ve watched. Do you have any more misguided fake “ facts “ that you would like to present?
@nelly83 Yes, you keep telling me that.All I am waiting for from you is some measurable comparative metrics - in terms of statistics, infection rates, econometrics, etc, - that will suggest the Governor has earned your fawning her worship. Still waiting.
And plus New Yorkers take trains , not cars, which basically means over a hundred people stuffed into 1 train car, cramped tight where sweat can be dropped onto one another. New York relies on trains more than any other state in the country
New York’s density also explains why New Yorkers can take trains to travel anywhere within city. If it weren’t dense , everyone would be driving cars like everywhere else
@nelly83 Still waiting for the metrics that suggest the Governor has been anything other than quite adequate.
Well you would never say anything positive about our gov because you’re jealous. Why would I expect you to say anything nice from a bitter jealous person?
@nelly83 Could not less about the Governor. I go about my life giving him scarcely a thought. Because I work in politics I listen to his daily press conferences - which are mostly banalities piled one on another.Indeed, I have only addressed it here because the question was asked on the site. Beyond, that my indifference is stark. Other than to add that I think the hero worship over the Governor disproportionate compared to the nature of his accomplishments.
Don’t talk about him not accomplishing a lot when you’re obviously worried that he’s gonna help my state more than your governor is helping your state. Cuomo is obviously a good governor Simply by your jealousy
@nelly83 Again, how do the stats show him compared to other Governors. Sorry, not that impressive. Not bad, but nothing to write home about - and certainly nothing to justify your hero worship.Besides, for what it is worth, I have family and friends in New York - both upstate and in the city. So I hardly take any great pleasure, to the extent that I pay attention at all, in his adequate performance.You, on the other hand, I am beginning to think are his mistress. Good grief.
i don’t need stats if you’re afraid that Cuomo is gonna be soo relentless and good at fighting for New York that your state will end up With nothing. This says a lot already
@nelly83 The prosecution rests. Your opening line said it all.
I don’t know , you had nothing bad to say about Cuomo then “ ohh my state isn’t gonna get Enough hazard pay cuz Andy is fighting so hard for NY state” “ ohh my state is not gonna have enough ventilators cuz Andy is soo good and relentless at fighting for his own state “ How about let’s see your own governor be half as good as Andrew in fighting for your state? Then You wouldn't have such things to say
@nelly83 Yes, Cuomo has been aggressive with other people's money. Tip of the hat. That makes him different from any other Governor how? All at the trough, it hardly merits the accolades that have been bestowed upon him.
What makes you think Cuomo is responsible for you, just cus your gov is not doing enough for you?
@nelly83 Where are you getting all this? Pay very close attention. As a personal matter, more indifferent I could not be. As an intellectual proposition there is nothing in the Governor's performance that merits the accolades he has received. Daily press conferences do not a hero make.Bottom line, beyond the intellectual proposition, which I have addressed, I could not care less. Got it? Not complicated, your own drooling admiration for the Governor - which you are certainly free to indulge as is your prerogative - notwithstanding.Good grief.
Don’t try to manipulate what you’ve said. Get a life.
@nelly83 You are telling ME to get a life. You have belabored your passionate love for the Governor for how many iterations now?You remind of that line from Bull Durham - "The world is not made for people who are burdened with the curse of self-awareness." Suffice to say, you will do quite well by that standard.
Yea you should get a life because obviously you have no legitimate arguments or evidence all throughout this thread. Going on a further immature fight is not gonna make you look more credible
@nelly83 This is what you keep telling me - even as you told me that you are not required to provide any metrics for your own assertions.Really child, calm down.
Argument has been long over. I’ll quit wasting time on you
@nelly83 OMG, you are beyond clueless. I am too tired for this shit.
@KrakenAttackin you’re just a troll
@nelly83 Cuomo is a liberal, globalist, jackass, who has no respect for law or individual liberty. He is a loudmouth jerk who thinks the "little people" (citizens) are insects to be crushed whenever he pleases. He has the biggest ego of anyone I have seen in politics. All of his rambling is his attempt to set himself up for a 2024 run for President. He KNOWS he can't beat Trump this year.F Quomo and all those like him.
@KrakenAttackin I think that in order to prove a point , you really need more than just bad mouthing and unproven accusations
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😆😷 well said!
Lol 😂 yeah
You should get yourself a athletic guy who has a healthy libido. Lol
I agree. That's a challenge at the moment thought! 🙃
That's what im saying. We need to get this quarantine over with soon. 😂😂
Lol thank you ~ one of my pet peeves 😛
@VIVANT same here tbh and you are welcome :)
you might be talking about biden
@Bman4907 Biden is one too, but both Cuomo brothers are frequent fliers on Epstein's Lolita express.
Fredo does need to learn how to calm down too
I'm not from NY, he appears to have handled the situation better than the orange man
ah blue Anon... How mighty keyboard warrior are you. Are you from the 4th Regimen of Keyboard Warriors.
@legalboxers You are a left wing moron. Same as there are right wing morons. You idiots fight with each other and love politicians who don't give a fuck about you.
@Katebfun Well there you go orange man. You are brainwashed too. When you gonna realize no politician gives a fuck about you or me or anybody? Cuomo's fucking brother lied about having the virus to put us in fear. This governor is a piece of garbage just like every other governor out there.
Blue Annon I am in NYC and 3 friends died from Covid, including my ex girlfriends mom. So when you do get your gonads back from being teabagged. the come and talk to me
@legalboxers sorry for your loss.
Just google “ Cuomo Health Care “If you are still turned on, I think you may be a masochist.
Ooo. I did not know that.
@KatebfunI I think it’s wrong whoever is saying you need to get laid. I don’t support that. Very inappropriate. 😐
I'll spend hours just developing my characters looks
Wait a sec are u a dev?
😆 No. I know I'll take my sweet time customising my character.
what does that mean?
He split up with his wife (or maybe it was his domestic partner)
His long term girlfriend of 15 years last year. Yes
go masturbate for a while get it out of your system
I don't see why some are insinuating I need to get laid... A man that can be honest and vulnerable and tell the truth is a rarity.
by the way you made your post the way you worded it that you like him in a romantic lustful sort of way
The guy's a globalist sell out, a cuck, he's in Soros's back pocket.
here's an interesting article about the state the guy you like runs so much. Take a long good read at this then this might change your mind or maybe not if you continue to think with that hole between your legswww. MSN. com/en-us/news/us/were-beyond-angered-fed-up-nurses-file-lawsuits-plan-protest-at-white-house-over-lack-of-coronavirus-protections/ar-BB12Y8y7? ocid=spartandhp
Of course you would!
@theChineseWASP you know it’s true. Always a fat chick saying things like that.
@ChefPapiChulo That's gold!
italian guys turn into crocodile looking men, when they age, they're only good looking when young and then it's downhill for them as they age
he's got a calming voice