Out of 20,000 Wet markets, the one in wuhan where the virus supposedly came from is the one next to the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products facility...Wuhan Institute of Biological Products Co., Ltd was founded in 1950, is now attached to the head of State-owned assets supervision of China national pharmaceutical group Corporation under the China biological technology company limited ("Wuhan company in RSE"), is the national medical microbiology, immunology, cell engineering, genetic engineering of major research institutions and production, learning and research of biological products, sales of large high-tech enterprises and South-Central immunization guidance centre.
Yours talking about sars and mers. which are cousins of this
That isn’t the developed Virus we see today...
there's 4 different groups 2 people can get
@Gsm24diecast Did you even read the source she posted, or did you just ignore it again because it doesn't fit your narrative? The source explains that the Covid-19 isn't engineered and has traits that are similar to viruses that naturally occur in bats.
I actually looked it up. and found it been around since the 60's and there's 4 groups that people can actually get
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@Gsm24diecast Yes, I am familiar with that report. But it is still more plausible that this was a "Red China Chernobyl", that is, something they did not want to happen, and covered up, or tried to cover up.
That’s what I’m implying. They were clearly in over their heads.
The lack of information leaves a vacuum for info. That is the mother of conspiracy theories..
One thing that scares me after reading some of the posts is just how much distrust there is in humanity. Thats the real weapon if there is any in this scenario. As I stated made possibly sent out unlikely because as a former medic asigned to a nuclear chemical biological warfare team I assume we only trained for scenarios that we were at risk of experiencing. Mind you this is back in 2003 I was aware how fast something could spread and how bad it could be in theory but one thing I dont really remember thinking about is how much our state of political division would play into it. It seems as though we just assumed people would listen and take things like this serious. I don't belive this was coordinated attack but based on how we handled it scares me. Because there are much scarier things out there than Covid. At some point we have to unite and put politics asside and come up with a solid plan to deal with this. I hope everyone can see how fast our resources can be taxed. We really need to spend our energy figuring things out instead of pointing the finger at who we think politically is responsible. Just saying we were all at fault to some extent so lets figure out what we could have done better and fix it.
I completely agree. I do remember reading some research somewhere about mentally unstable people being more likely to believe conspiracy theories (I know that will be a hard pill to swallow for some and no offence is intended, but it’s definitely worth consideration).
What are your sources of information to back this up? I'm curious to see them.Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
Damn don't you look at your history read up about it it's been in the news chill. My source is from documentaries history... Google it.. I don't go by the news I go by the history channel's documentaries
The history channel is mostly conspiracy theories. I'm surprised there isn't a special episode of Ancient Aliens claiming past plagues were started as an alien method of population control, and "could the same thing be happening again now?".So you're saying it's all rumors again and no evidence? I'll stick to the science instead.
No it's not a rumor it's facts.
https:// www. nature. com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”Like I said, I'll stick to the science.
Okay. Have fun.
Follow the link I sent
You're going to believe something that was posted on YouTube from The Epoch Times over a nature article written by research scientists?A quick search of what The Epoch Times is, showed that it's not a reputable source. Wikipedia (not a fantastic source of truth itself) claims the news outlet "has become known for its support of U. S. President Donald Trump and favorable coverage of far-right politicians in Europe; a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign. The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD). The group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda."It's a propaganda outlet and is far less trustworthy than an internationally recognised, peer reviewed, research journal.I will stick by the nature publication and say this virus was not engineered in a lab, and most likely came from the Petri dish that was the Wuhan wet-market; until strong evidence suggests otherwise.
@Gsm24diecast people are only human and unfortunately this means prone to accidents too.
Accidents resulting in Millions of cases of covid-19, and resulting in the deaths of 183,424 people..China is Clearly lying and covering up what happened, they are under rule of a communistic regime, then of course this isn't counting the actual toll of god knows how many are affected in china.if they confess the truth it will mean War, common sense right?
@Gsm24diecast there's no denying thta, but it is what it is, pointing blame where it inst due isn't helpfu. Hmm not necessarily war (depends on how each leader handles it, which is questionable ta the minute), but definitely consequences of sorts, mostly economical I imagine (which may or may not leda to war, but war also creates economical damage so those with more sense than ego will recognise this and mitigate it).
Ignore the typos, my keypad has stopped workig properly.
so its not helpful by pointing out that a Chinese Military Contracted Biological Warfare research facility that "accidentally" spreads Covid19 and causes a massive pandemic?
@Gsm24diecast no because that's obviously not a fact is it. Come on now.
Clearly it is, come on now...
US6506148B2 google this...
@Gsm24diecast I don't have time to sit there and read through it all but what's your point? How does that relate to covid 19? And if it were possible don't you tbi kwe would have seen more examples of this by now?
I’m calling you brain washed.
The media suppresses the truth In the world, the media lie, that’s not a surprise either, Operation Mockingbird proves the media is controlled by One entity rather than multiple. That Patent and device has been operational for decades, hence why the patent is renewed every year. Stop being a sheep, think for yourself, rather than them creating your tomorrow.
Did you know that the United States elite men go to Bohemian grove and sacrifice a mock effigy to a 30 foot Owl named Moloch in a yearly summer ritual in the middle of the forest on a 2,700-acre plot of land.That’s a fact. Did you know that China is leading the world in biological warfare? That’s a fact. Do you even know where the words conspiracy theory or conspiracy theorist even originated from? LOL
To answer your first question: yes. Though what's your point? People gather to have a meeting that includes some bizzare tradition, and somehow that's responsible for a virus? What evidence do you have to link these two events? I'm guessing zero.As for your second question: no. Though I'm surprised you have access to China's top secret military activities in order to possibly "know" this. I'm guessing this is also nonsense, because the US defence spending dwarfs China. If any military on the planet were to develop a virus, it would most likely be the US. If indeed it was the US, and they released it in China for some reason, then it was a dumb move - because now it's crippling them too. Nobody wins "using" this virus, so what would be the point to develop it and release it?To answer your thirds question: yes. And as a perfect example, you have offered no evidence to relate the activities you mentioned to the virus, so they are both just conspiracy theories, which makes you a conspiracy theorist.
You can’t use the word conspiracy theorists or conspiracy unless you know where it originated from, you stated that it was conspiracy nonsense so I informed you of the most ridiculous Truth place that I know, to show that the elite are Crazier than what you think they are. Sit kid
There’s 20,000 wet markets in China, and it comes from the one that’s located right next to a Biological research facility in wuhan.
What do nukes have to do with bohemian grove rituals? Because the Manhattan project was planned at bohemian grove
So if it was a government you think it came from America, but not the most communist country in the world? Dude get back in your shitty Honda Civic and drive off from this conversation you cuck
Well, i hate to break it for you like that, but after 9 months you might change your mind😂😂
@Mroz75 i definitely still want a baby
@DizzyDesii for sure and hopefully you have one! But a lot of people have found that its convenient time to make a baby now, since nothing better to do, and you know things get steamy 😛😂
You would have*
@Mroz75 nah too risky right now with the virus in my opinion
I've heard from fellow healthcare professionals that it's likely covid-19 isn't the depopulation tool but merely a way to force people into taking the vaccine which will be developed for it.. It is rumored that the vaccine will make a whole generation sterile.The effects are said to take place after a while (long term) not immediately in order for the producers to not take responsibility for the damages.I can't say for sure if those rumors are true but I know for certain that if it is not studied and tested well for longterm effects then I will not use it on myself or my family.
If I were you I'd have a baby before taking that vaccine. I hope someone creates drugs that combat covid-19 so people don't have to take that ominous vaccine.
@Desire-for-Greatness What are you on about? You heard from someone who is a "healthcare professional" - but not necessarily a biotechnologist, geneticist, virologist or other expert working on a vaccine - that a vaccine that currently doesn't even exist, will make everyone sterile? What information do they possibly have to confirm this? Just because by virtue they work in healthcare means they have access to all government mandated top secret population sterilisation programs? Why would they even want to curb population? Fewer people to buy goods and services? Lower profit margins?Also, can you please explain how a vaccine that is designed to promote the body's own immune system from fighting a variant of the flu - which it does successfully with the other two commonly occuring Coronavirus strains that circulate in the population - can lead to sterility? Why doesn't this happen with other flu vaccinations already, but would with this one?None of this makes any sense.
Did I say I know it for a fact? I said I heard rumors about this.Are you worried about how they can do it? It's not that hard.Why is a different question. It's no secret that the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and George soros believe in depopulation. They have publicly stated that.Do you have any idea how powerful these people are? They own all your media and most if not all major pharma companies.Not to mention the U. S education system is in the palm of their hands which means any research done in universities can be influenced by them.Again, I did not say I know that this will happen for sure but the risk is too high to ignore and now is their best chance to do what they've publicly talked about on tv.Just look up their statements or depopulation.
Assuming what you say is true, if they were going to do it, they could have done it aged ago with any other vaccine. Seasonal flu vaccines would be a good start.If you don't have any evidence that they will do it, then why are you assuming anything at all?They may control your media, but over here in the UK, they don't have much sway over what I read. Nor do I bet they have much sway over the majority of other countries on the planet - all of which are affected by this virus. The US is not the world.When wealthy people say things, it's easy to believe that everything they saw will happen. People forget there are literally hundreds of thousands of other people involved in the process to make anything happen. The odds are that one person is going to speak up if a vaccine is ever developed to purposefully sterilise people. As for how easy it is to make a vaccine that also sterilises, you tell me, you clearly know more.
Bro all I was saying is there has to be many people involved in the manufacturing of the vaccine. It should be transparent and managed by several different countries not just the U. S. It should be well tested and over a good period of time.I would still rather have them make a cure rather than a vaccine so not everyone gets a mandatory vaccine. I hope that the rumors are wrong cuz that would be a big relief. These things are complex, I'm a little worried the effects won't be visible except in the long term as a swedish (or some other Scandinavian country) Medical professor said last month.I hope the paranoia surrounding this is unfounded otherwise it's gonna be really bad.
Yes because creating a virus that only kills a fraction out of billions is a way to control overpopulation. Jesus..
You're very right Marilyn. You're smart. The virus isn't what's gonna depopulate. It's the vaccine.(at least that's what the rumors are saying).I have no reason to believe these rumors but I still think we should make the vaccine production a transparent process run by several countries not 1.It's better to be safe than sorry, we just make sure it gets properly tested before we inject it into our bloodstream and that of our children.
Trial vaccines are already being tested on humans. You can find detailed information about it. Viruses are known to mutate in order to find a stable host, the difficulties that causes is also broadcasted. This isn’t the first virus we’ve encountered. There is nothing to gain out of this, economic crisis from 10 years ago will only repeat itself. Who gains out of this? Nobody. This is life, things like this happen. I know everyone’s bored in quarantine but everything isn’t a conspiracy.
There are people who gain from this.People with an agenda of depopulation. These people want the human population to be 500 million to 1 billion.You can't really call it a conspiracy theory when it's engraved on Tablets in the middle of some streets America.They also talk about it on TV. It's not a secret.Europeans are going extinct. Very slowly but it's happening. There are less children born in Europe than there are deaths.That's also true for japan and other developed countries.In fact almost every country in the world is having less and less children. What if I told you there is a small country which is very developed yet has a fertility rate that is rapidly increasing and is now higher than most undeveloped countries?Can you guess what that country is?
Let’s bet for a few grand that this is just nature doing its thing and let’s talk again in a year or two. I’m not taking part of this, toodles.
I can't post links cuz I'm not level 3. I'll send you the link privately. As I said it's not a secret. This is publicly stated.
Spread or released. It's irrational to believe that if the virus was made it was intentional released. However letting it spread would flatten and equalize the economic downturn a pandemic would cause. If the virus was contained in China the only nation that would suffer any economic harm. Which isn't in the interest of a country that wishes to be the economic superpower of the globe. For a nation that holds a flagrant disregard towards the lives of its populace, how many are you willing to sacrifice so that you're economic and political adversaries are harmed all the same?
T-virus style from resident evil
@Bman4907 yep a resident evil fan here
A virus that can develop naturally in other species is silly, but thinking humans made it in a lab is reasonable? What about Ebola, do you think we made that too? The SARS pandemic? Swine flu pandemic? MERS pandemic? Viruses evolve naturally though different species. It's only a matter of time that one evolves to transmit between species. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last.
@Gsm24diecast It's not next to. It's in the same city. Wrigley Field and Guaranteed Rate FuckAllOfANameThisIs Fields ballparks are closer together than the virology institute and that wet market.
@Gsm24diecast You need better evidence than a coincidence.
It’s right next to it...
Don’t get so triggered kid
We aren't in a pre-industrialized fractured world anymore. China has a lot to lose in terms of trade with many countries around the world if they did this on purpose. Maybe it was a mistake, but I doubt on purpose. They know it would be suicide for them.
@Gsm24diecast I looked it up on a map. They aren't close to each other. Show me they are, maybe I'm wrong.
You’re looking at a different lab, I’m looking at FSE which is the main lab next to the market.And I never said it was on purpose now did i?It’s China, it’s a communist regime, they are clearly covering it up, they messed up bad, Doctors that were speaking about the virus in Wuhan are going missing one by one, and the Death toll reported from China is clearly manipulated.They aren’t going to fess up, it’s China 🇨🇳, confess means war. China is the lead developer in Biological warfare, if they told us the truth, the United States would go and steal their technology and cause a war. Just like what we did with Saddam Hussein.
@Gsm24diecast Post a link
You post a link? Lol I’ve already stated what lab it was.
The wet market is literally next to it
There isn’t just one wet market in Wuhan you know that right?
@Gsm24diecast I'm not going to waste my time if you can't back up what you said.
Clearly you don’t know how to use google earth...
Who is Corrupted...Out of 20,000 Wet markets, the one in wuhan where the virus supposedly came from is the one next to the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products facility...Wuhan Institute of Biological Products Co., Ltd was founded in 1950, is now attached to the head of State-owned assets supervision of China national pharmaceutical group Corporation under the China biological technology company limited ("Wuhan company in RSE"), is the national medical microbiology, immunology, cell engineering, genetic engineering of major research institutions and production, learning and research of biological products, sales of large high-tech enterprises and South-Central immunization guidance centre.
That being said, china is socially fragile and they need economic growth to quell the public from uprising. Whether they like it or not they must keep exporting to the world. They would lose more wealth creating a virus that spread indiscriminately
It's kinda obvious, the hong kong protests have virtually stopped since this began.
@Bman4907 Whoa shit! That's right!
Probably developed by Greenpeace to save the planet from climate change too. People have stopped travelling and using oil. Pollution has dropped globally. Makes so much sense, my mind is blown.Think people.
Do you not think any type of pandemic would become a priority over any type of protest? Look back in time, what psychology has taught us is that in circumstances like these issues tend to dissipate onto the back burner and people pull together, higher levels of altruism come to the forefront regardless of political stance, until it’s dealt with. I imagine you’ll see the return of it once things become a safer again.
Someone shoot me please.
A silent war more likely
Wasn't any of those people you listed, it was china's Defense Government Contracted Lab workers that messed up. And china is clearly covering that up. China's Lying about what happened, and is clearly lying about their death toll and cases.
@Gsm24diecast blah blah and blah
I’m not surprised by your Liberal reaction.
Only liberals act like complete morons when faced with facts.
@Gsm24diecast oh... blah and blah blah
Good one, just proves my point.