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If we're talking personal identity absent rules and criteria that can be externally verified, then even a spectrum is oversimplified. It's no-holds-barred and cannot even be reduced to a finite spectrum let alone a set.
Wow well that puts me off men 😂
Frankly, it puts us off ourselves, too. Suffice it to say I can certainly understand why some men would want to just be rid of it. Indeed, I suspect a main reason some guys dislike m2f trans people is because they took the "easy way out" instead of doing the work of developing ways to cope. It's also a reason some guys are so hostile to gay men, too - being gay is regarded as just another easy way out.
Actually, many people have different combinations of XX, XY, XXY, XXX etc.
I only just discovered this myself.
Like I said, Y chromosome=maleNo Y chromosome=femaleUnicorn isn't a gender either
You can be XY and still born with only female genitals though.
Those are extremely rare cases and unequivocally they end up having a very clear and well defined gender as either a man or a woman
@alicehdixon 1.7% of us are born with an Intersex condition.
It does make sense!
@alicehdixon I think the hardest thing to figure out is “where do I fit”? Once that’s answered life is a lot easier.
1.7% are born with an Intersex condition.
@KatherineJ I assume you're using an extremely broad definition of intersex. When I say intersex I mean the doctors can't tell if it's a girl or a boy.
@englunduberalles ambiguous genitalia is only one of the many criteria that can be considered Intersex.
@KatherineJ I disagree.
@englunduberalles then you disagree with the medical community.
@KatherineJ It wouldn't be the first time. And I disagree with a lot of people so please don't take it personally.
@englunduberalles I don’t take anything personally, but it’s sad that people don’t understand the difference between fact, and their feelings on an issue.
@KatherineJ As long as I'm not aware of the facts I will continue to go with my opinions :)
@englunduberalles well, I hope you never have a child with one of those conditions then. That way you can remain blissful in that ignorance.
@KatherineJ No offence, but here's a link to an article that says you're full of ****: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
@englunduberalles so you are saying that a Wikipedia page that corroborates what I said means I’m full of it? Grow up
@KatherineJ You might want to read it again if you think it confirms your 1.7% delusion.
It confirms the conditions. The quoted percentage is anywhere between.02% and 1.7%. Of course it wouldn’t be such a surprise that those numbers might be low due to the social stigma of having an Intersex child. But never mind, you know everything about it.
@KatherineJ It's really not something I've looked into closely. Anyway I'm in too good of a mood today to argue.
@englunduberalles I’m not arguing, it’s a discussion. The only thing that I ever ask is for people to research before making judgements about people who have dealt with it.
What about people who are intersex?
I'm not familiar with that term.
people who are born intersex either have surgery as an infant to have their genitalia completely one or the other, usually the one that the one their with show most characteristics of. or they wait until they are older if they want a surgery to be one or other, i believe this is better as with the other way the sex the doctor chooses for the child doesn't always match how they identify gender-wise as an adult.
@Anxious_Loner I assume you're talking about a baby that has both male and female sex organs. If this is the case, I'm guessing that the DNA/genes/chromosomes would determine which actual sex/gender the baby truly is.
sometimes its even too complex for that.
If you're intersex naturally functionality of genitalia would determine your gender say you're born with a penis and vagina if you can be impregnated/lactate/have ovaries you're a girl if you can impregnate you're a guy.
If you get surgery you're whatever gender you're born still just badly mutilated to look otherwise
What if you're infertile or born without either set of genitals being fully formed?
my bad. Gender is binary what you're into however is obviously a spectrum.