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I wouldn’t have anything to worry about at 55. Kids grown, I make good money , retirement is on the corner. I’ve lived a good life
Yup, again; of course you think that now.
You can’t even bring anything up
Prior to 18 is not hard at all.
It isn't hard, regarding the fact they don't have to pay bills, work too much etc. BUTTTTT they don't have freedom like adults... lol
And some of them have strict parents, which doesn't help. (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
@JoyGirl life is the hardest when you have bills to pay and your parents are unwilling to support you while you don’t have the job experience to make more money. This is 18-25. We make no money and our parents are unwilling to provide for us
@JoyGirl and how about those college loans?
well, I don't know about all, but teens have to learn how to drive safely, be responsible with a job, manage money and minor bills like phones, etc., do well in school, do all the chores, still do anything else parents ask, and have no personal freedom to make their own decisions about anything major. So many teen suicides... so much pressure. As an Adult with kids, I do my job and have the kids do their chores and I cook most of the time and paybills. so, I don't think most adults have it bad compared to their own children.
Kids don’t have it hard at all. Understand that once you get out of high school, you will be worrying about college loans , it’s way harder to get decent grades in college than high school, most college students need to juggle taking hard courses while working part time. Then after college, some of us can’t even get jobs for our degree , which is really not uncommon. And if we do get jobs, it’ll typically pay shit. Early job years as a rookie is one of the hardest years of your career. You will be doing work that nobody else wants to do. Many of us even need to continue going to grad school as we work full time 9-5 jobs in order to make a decent living. Imagine how busy that would be.When you leave high school, you will no longer have time to complain about boys , make videos on tik tok, go on YouTube all day, or gossip with your friends anymore. When bills settle in , loans to pay off, worried about getting married , going to grad school while you’re busting the 9-6. You will finally realize that high school was one of the better years
I disagree. I'm 39 and could never keep up with all the crap my 14yo does. It's a lot they expect of kids these days. the whole if you want to do good later you have to do a LOT now, studying to get into college, for one. I mean, surely some of you had some easy childhood experiences. Wasn't like that for me and anyone else I know, so I guess your answer depends on your life experience at 25 and mine from mine at 39 [shrugs].
Kids in high school only have to deal with a few courses and a couple of chores at home. It’s nothing compared to the list of responsibilities for young adults today,. And yes we do all our own washing cleaning and paying bills. I don’t do any less chores than your 14 yr old
oh, and bullying, and school fights, taunting, etc. Again, high-schoolers is a pretty large focus group in the wonderland of suicides. Pretty well documented that Children have a VERY rough time.
Not very high schooler gets taunted. Most don’t. Most of those kids are on tik tok, YouTube , gossiping with friends, hanging out at parks after school, playing with their friends. Having way too much time on their hands. Go to a decent performing school and you won’t get taunted. Life expectancy has also decreased due to unemployed 20- 30 yr olds suiciding.
It’s ridiculous how some kids don’t even have to work 9 hours a day, get to hang out with friends after school, go hone wash a couple of dishes then say that their lives are super hard. How about having to decide whether you should eat dinner or pay your Student loans? Decide Whether you should live a life of poverty or go to grad school after working 9 hours a day? How about being so tired on weekends from working 10 hours a day , all week, that you don’t even want to see your friends. How about dreading going to work everyday because you. As a rookie, are assigned to do dreadful tasks that nobody else Wants to do? How about not getting any respect from your colleagues for the simple fact that you’re nothing more than a lowly rookie? A little bit of taunting and shared household chores is killing you already? You wouldn’t even be able to handle all the shit I’ve listed above
When I attended graduate school, I pulled out loans while working a shitty full time job from 9-6. Class started at 7 and ended at 10 pm at night. By the time I got hone it was around 11:30 pm and I studied until 3 am in the morning almost every night. I had to wake at 7:30 am the next morning to start work. I had absolutely no time to cook dinner or wash dishes. All I had was takeout food. I didn't have a home cooked meal in ages. These are the lives of Many young professionals nowadays where we need additional degrees and licensure to make a decent living.
I think you really hate adulthood. Probably because you had an easy childhood.
I had a rough childhood actually. I was traumatized by a teacher and suffered lingering effects of that for many years , I was bullied for a couple of years in school. But back then when I was a kid, I had way more time and less responsibility and didn’t have to live under fear of whether I could pay my bills or not. I slept every night with a full belly from a great dinner made by my dad, I didn’t have to buy the cheapest food possible or have to live on dollar pizza for dinner 5 nights in a Row.,When you grow up into an adult , everything is on you, nobody is there to feed you , help you out, or tell you things are gonna be ok. Parents are simply not gonna be there anymore While your parents are there to protect you, enjoy it. Life’s burden can get way worse
I know how to grow up. Done it before. if you had a rough childhood, why would you say being a child is easy? All you're talking about is money. there's boatload more to it than that. so take away the money stuff, which kids can't even make enough of anyway, and think it over again.
But honestly If everything that I’ve mentioned sounds better than childhood, then you must’ve had a terribly miserable childhood
name one thing that's worse, aside that you have to actually take care of yourself like anyone ever, and aside from money. Anything.
Taking care of myself, creating a future for myself, taking care of my loans is already enough of a burden. Obviously you had your parents supporting you until you’re 30 , If you don’t think these things are hard.
WHAT ABOUT ANYTHING NOT RELATED TO MONEY? you have money problem, that's all you're complaining about. Money isn't everything. Sorry you are too young to see that.
When I was 16, I hated cafeteria food at school because they were tasteless and crappy. Now I can only pray that I get cafeteria food. That would put a smile on my face for the rest of the year. You won’t understand what you have until you don’t have it anymore
WHAT ABOUT ANYTHING NOT RELATED TO MONEY?
You’re 39 years old and you say money isn’t everything. How will you feed your own kids without money? You will have no food, no car , no house without money. Sounds like you’re incredibly immature and in denial. Really you’re 39, grow up
hahaha. I have nothing to prove to you. You just upset over money, but you don't want to admit that your childhood included bullies that you don't have not, included mean teacher you don have now (obviously not all of them), you have no one breathing down your neck to complete work everyday, you life is not controlled by other people, you cannot be grounded, you can see your friends whenever you want, you don't have to listen to someone yelling at you, you can defend yourself when authority is involved, you have a choice over how your money is spent (yeah, I get you don't have money right now - so what, you still have the choice), you are free to pursue any life direction you want, you can have sex without getting in trouble, you have loads of freedom and the means & authority to follow your dreams. What benefit do you have as a kid that's better than adulthood? Maybe you just want to be a little kid for the rest of your life without being able to be an adult or make decisions. I mean, that's what you sound like to me. Which case, I don't think I'll ever be able to convince you otherwise. You can't even think of one thing worse as an adult that doesn't include money.
I have loads of freedom? I spend all my free time looking extra jobs to support myself to make sure I can survive. All my free time is spent on studying. If I’m lucky, I can make the time to see a friend for coffee once a week. I work 9-10 hours a day Ans i get absolutely exhausted at the end of the day with no energy left to do chores or cook dinner or even see a friend. And worst of all, I have to attend class at the end of a 9 hour shift. But guess what? Nobody cares if you’re dying from exhaustion, If you want to be able to feed yourself in the future , this is the only way to go. If I’m lucky I get 5 hours of sleep a day. I don’t even have enough time to socialize and get a boyfriend. With the burden of carrying multiple jobs, attending graduate school, I have absolutely no social life. I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO BITCH ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE SEX. I don’t even have the time to go on YouTube all day or make videos on tik tok. I don’t have the time to complain about how my best friend left me. Why? Well I don’t have time for friends If I get to cook myself a home cooked meal once a week, then I will call it a success.
Do you really think that just cus you’re not being told what to do by your parents or that you can finally start Having sex, your life will be burden free? How about worrying about your next meal? Whether or not you would ever be able to afford to raise a family in your life? How about worrying that you wouldn’t be able to get a job after college? How about being unemployed and your parents kicking you out?
Sex Ans having friends will be the least of your problems If you are struggling to feed yourself
it's easier to feed YOURSELF as an adult, rather than a child. Some adult has to provide, or YOU GET NOTHING. at least you can get food on your own. Anyway, you're still whining about money. Clearly, your issue with adulthood is that you were not properly prepared while you were a child. maybe that's why you think it is easier being a child - because you had not been pressured into being prepared. blame your parents, or blame yourself for not looking into it. you created this mess by not being prepared - again, a child cannot afford to not be taught how to be an adult, how to find a job, how to manage money, what are good decision, etc. You want to go back to not being responsible for yourself? Go on whining more and more. It won't help. lol, you're still a child.
I’m not prepared? I make 45k per year. I have taxes to pay , student loans to pay off , and pay for graduate school tuition, along with my food and transportation and expensive license exam fees. So why would you say I’m not prepared? I’m the one in graduate school and working hard toward my future. Do you really think every new college grad comes out of college with a 100k starting salary job and no student loans? Do you really think college grads don’t worry about unemployment? The job market is extremely competitive and not just anyone can secure a job.On the other hand , you seem more focused about your kids hanging out with friends, complaining about how your kids can’t have sex at 15 or that they must abide to their parents rules Rather than focusing on their education. Your kids are the ones that will come out unprepared in the real world.
All your kids need to do is go to school for half a day. Hang out with friends. Come home and dinner is already served by mom. All they have to do is wash a couple of dishes. Do homework and then fall asleep. If this is your version of hard to you, then you must be in lala land
According to you, I am not responsible for myself which is why I am working two jobs trying to send myself to graduate school so I can make a better living in the future.Why don’t you take a look at your level of delusion? A truly irresponsible person is someone like you: living with your parents until you’re 30. Your parents paid for your college degree which was why you never had loans. You didn’t have to pay rent until you were 30.
well, whatever, i don't feel you have a good argument. You just whine a lot. Your kids, if you have them will probably grow up like you and struggle in life because you artificially mask them from what they need to learn before they go out on their own. As a young teenager, I had a job, and I paid 1/3 of my paycheck to rent in my own home. I learned a lot from that one thing, and there's a lot of other examples. I had hard time with money in my 20s, but I made it through because I was prepared, and I knew what to expect because I was prepared. What's your excuse?
Well if you were so prepared , then you wouldn’t have a hard time in your 20s right? According to you anyone who has a hard time is unprepared. Guess what? 90 percent of us new college graduates do not make 100k right out of graduation.Your assumption that finding a job nowadays was just as easy 25 years ago shows how little life experience you have. Since the 2008 financial crisis , jobs have been very scarce especially for new grads with minimal job experience. Things have gotten a bit better since then but things are Still not easy.
throughout this entire chain Of conversation , you are the one who is full of contradictions and false accusations that you absolutely have no proof of. You don’t have any argument against me. You’re just an immature fool who grew up in the good old days where someone with Straight Ds in college could obtain a great job. This is the only reason why you’d think any new college grad should be able to obtain a job, buy a house at 25. This was 30 years ago, not today
you just want to argue. obviously your life is different than mine. I decided tpo do federal service at 19 because I wanted a house some day, and that's a guarenteed loan for being in the military. That was one plan. Also went to college with my GI bill. That was another plan. Also, when things got tough for a job in my home state, I moved to NY to work jobs that I had skills for and were available at a decent wage - took my whole family with me and it was a success. later, I found an opportunity in my home town, so I moved back with the fam.Sure, I had money problem in the 20s - everyone does, don't they - but lack of planning is your problem, not being an adult. you don't act like an adult if you're all overwhelmed because you are doing things you cannot afford. Maybe you shouldn't have taken a loan out if you can't pay for it. where was your planning then?
basically whatr you are going through right now is what 14-18 years old usually gso through. you just weren't guided to be prepared - that's why it's tough right now for you. If you were busy as a child being prepared, you would have made decision that lead yo to hardly have money for food. so, in learning how to be an adult, it sounds like you are the equivalence of a 17 year old. you'll have to push through it.
Well welcome to 2020, most of the lives of young adults were like this. We go to college the. We graduate. About 35-40 percent of us cannot find jobs for our degree. Because the job market wasn’t like what it was in your time, where any college grad can just pop out of college with straight Ds and still end up with a job. Not everyone was fortunate like you, where you just serve a few years in the military then you Come out and attend college for free. And why would you call me a loser for pulling out loans for school? I’m investing for a better future and I will be making more money than you in a few years. Clearly If you cannot understand why im investing in a better future , you don’t understand the concept of hard work
You’re so uneducated that you don’t even understand the impact the economy has on jobs. And you believe that every 24 yr old should be able to make a shit ton of money and buy a house at age. And you said I’m a loser for not having 80k laying around in my bank account to pay for grad school You obviously had never worked hard for anything in life
You think that just because you worked hard at 17, then you’re set for life? Go out there and tell this to the professionals and professors, they will all tell you that you have absolutely no real world experience. At 18, most kids work at McDonald’s for minimum wage