If I got a woman pregnant, after this year is what I’m talking about. There has to be a country that would allow it, if they don’t have a treaty with the US but would be annoying because Canada is close, and cheap to get to.
Roe V. Wade will be overturned
The treaty would not matter. The US would charge you when you came back.
Lol, it’s called not telling anyone why you took the trip
I rather not have any kids, the foster care system in nyc is a mess, that’s like throwing all your money in a bonfire for 18 years.
For women I might get pregnant, not me. Medical abortion only works early on. It will be illegal in 2020 trust me.
No it won’t. Repubs don’t want to lose the wedge issue. And besides, viagra costs more in healthcare than abortions. Let’s leave women’s bodies to themselves.
But I’ll have to pay for it like I have had to do before
Then don’t have unprotected sex. You’d still have to pay for it here since you’re not a resident of Canada with provincial healthcare coverage.
Yeah, makes no difference but I wouldn’t have a choice because it’s about to become illegal. I usually do unless I’m in a relationship I can’t predict the future if I get another girl pregnant.
Why can’t you use protection each time you have sex? Your only going to be putting yourself in this situation if it happens. Why can’t your girlfriends get on the pill or something?
I ask myself the same, accidents also happen with condoms and bc
I know that accidents happen. But with consistent, proper use, the chances of pregnancy happening on contraceptives is very low. Abortion is not a method of birth control and should not be used or treated as such.
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Only 4 years of it illegal, and that’s if they get lucky and don’t have major lawsuits.
Gotta love the pro-death freakshow calling the other side anti-choice...
If I get another girl pregnant, and she keeps it, I’m liable to pay child support, I’ve seen it with my coworkers.
Yeah that her choice, it won't be you getting an abortion, it will be her, if she chooses. And all you gotta do is wrap up.
You are very simplistic. Probably sheltered, living with your parents at home.
You are the one who wants to come to my country to get a procedure that isn't even performed on men.
I don’t want to, I’m saying worst case scenario. I’m still responsible for any pregnancy, I would have caused not her.
I’m sorry I know abortion is free there, but in the US it’s something you pay for so the guys usually have to pay hundreds of dollars.
Why don't you freeze some sperm and get a vasectomy? You'll have strong sperm from a young specimen saved for whenever you are ready, and you'll never have to worry about getting anyone pregnant?
The doctors here don’t usually do it men under 40 the medical system is VERY different here. Doctors can shame, refuse any patients, for any LGBT related, race related, etc. Being childless isn’t a big part of American culture, usually taboo, seen as sinful, plus lawsuits doctors get constantly here is crazy. I’ve thought about it, and definitely will when I’m old enough to be allowed to.
@Year3000 abortion is free if you live here, pay taxes and have healthcare/OHIP. It isn't free for foreigners.
Our healthcare is "free" for citizens because we pay taxes and have OHIP.
@ciitruskiwi yes but Americans won’t need to go to Canada to get abortions until later this year or next year. It would cost me money anyway. He is Canadian so finds it weird that it’s also a men’s issue because of the healthcare he was born with.
We also pay as much taxes in New York as much as Canada because we need to pay for the schools in the south. We don’t have healthcare it costs hundreds for simple check ups.
@Year3000 I'm Canadian but I can see your point. It takes two people to get pregnant. I wouldn't be surprised if most men paid for their girl's abortion.
@ciitruskiwi it’s a standard cultural thing for the man to pay for the abortion in the US. It can easily cost 500 dollars. In red states it can go up to 800-1000 out of pocket, insurance isn’t allowed to pay for abortions even in blue states because it’s “immoral”.
Man, you aren't getting it. First off, I wasn't born in Canada, I am an immigrant. I was born in a country where abortions were illegal. Secondly, I was just making fun of how you asked the question, because you made it sound like you will be the one having the abortion, which is obviously not the case. And of course abortion is not a men's issue, the woman has the final say, it is up to her, and it will be her going through it and experiencing it if she chooses to. While you are affected and expected to act nobly, it is not a men's issue. Just like Vasectomy isn't a women's issue.
@Year3000 damn I knew they were expensive but I didn't think $1000 expensive.
@ciitruskiwi in Christian states yeah
@Year3000 in Canada it costs $450-900 depending on how long the woman's been pregnant. So it's probably better to come to Canada especially if you're paying for it.
@ciitruskiwi it’s 500 here, less for medical
How do I not?
It takes an amendment to change an amendment. Go back to civ class.
Plus take the baby out putt some drugs in and make $50k on the deal
If trump picks a conservative judge it will be overturned
What do you mean hope it does? Unless the world ends like in the 2012 movie it will happen.
I hope it does because abortion is demonic.
It will be only in the US unless Trump dies somehow.
He is older so he definitely could have a heart attack or stroke at his age
He is 73. Turns 74 next month.
High ask group at that age, for heath complications. Not an old man but definitely on the older side.
Still very unlikely
Most Americans are Republicans
Even in my state, my city created Trump, Fox News, basically responsible for making it illegal.
Not really. Most Americans consider themselves “independent” though they usually vote for one party. The numbers are actually around 45% for each side and then the 10% whose vote matters are low info voters.
Since when do guys not have to pay for it?
If you didn’t want her to get pregnant you shouldn’t have stuck your dick in her
What if she doesn’t want an abortion and if you’re so certain you don’t want kids then be a real man and get a vasectomy
You know there’s also adoption
Not where I live
Too much hassle
You said you’re an American. You can give the kid up for adoption. You can also take the baby to a police department or fire station and leave it no questions asked. Why aren’t you man enough to get a vasectomy?
Doctors don’t allow it, vaginas get ugly after birth also I mean that by hassle going through with all that bullshit
Drs don’t allow what and vaginas don’t change and there’s no hassle at all. Like I said it’s no questions asked. Can’t get anymore simple than that
I hate hearing men saying " if you're a REAL MAN you'll... " and then don't have the BALLS to do it themselves, how about saying this for a change; if she's a REAL WOMAN she should sterilized herself.
@glock33sig357 because the vast majority of women want children and they naturally sterilize at menopause. You don’t want kids so it’s your responsibility to see that you don’t reproduce you little pussy
I have had a vasectomy myself
Only a pussy will know one when it sees one.
Baby boys, no fighting, on my question.
What? No but I’ve thought about working in tech.