i'm plainly just reading the news. if you think the news are lying, that's fair enough.
Is English your first language @girther10 ? English is my second language and I can type a much more coherent sentence than you but that is probably because you are the modern equivalent of a lobotomy patient who is obviously uneducated to the highest degree for developed nations and most likely obese and poor with no power yet being a mindless patriot of the national conditions that left you in that position but you probably think it is the black people or the immigrants or these rioters that made you that way because you never formulated the capacity to read a fucking book instead of watch your television because it is easier
@HartleyB do you think the way you're talking to the guy will get you anywhere? just genuinely curious.
I don't really care, I don't live in your country and I just get a kick out of being rude to people who use idiotic unwarranted patriotism to justify fascist positions and nations.And who the hell thinks that they are superior to other human beings because they were born on some landmass and not another? "You are inadequate to be American" like they did anything to deserve shit all. If there are people defending a state murdering disgruntled citizens then I'm going to be rude to them I don't care about their feelings
@HartleyB well you're right now very angry and in a state where you're not exactly causing people to have reasonable discussions with you. you're escalating aggression and diverge from communication that "could" solve anything.of course talking with this guy may be utterly pointless but well you're not exactly helping anything with the aggression. just saying.
I am acutely aware of that fact, but I agree that talking sense into the senseless is senseless so I am not going to try to reason with this obviously unreasonable person so I am just going to hopefully make them feel stupid enough to make them read a book to feel smarter or something, I know it is probably feutile but hey, I am bored waiting for my friend to arrive so I am just commenting stupid comments on this website really
@HartleyB well that's litterally what being toxic ist. i don't condone this behavior.
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by the way: this is based on fictional characters, nothings going to happen 😁
xD yeah i'm familia with the terminator lore :D
i think it's going to war, cause he knows that the corona measures pushed a lot of people over the edge of poverty and there's more and more people who litterally have nothing left but their aggression.
Put June 17th on your calendar and update this question. If by then there is an all out war against America headed by trump then you may be right. I think on that date the protests will be a thing of the past.
i hope so.
I want in on this reminder. Also having these protests being a "thing of the past" seams unlikely since even if nothing comes out of these ones they are all building on the previous protests and getting more violent every time.
@genericname85 and @Soteris it’s only been one week. Thought I would check in because it doesn’t seem like the riots have gotten more violent and I haven’t seen evidence of Trump mobilizing any more Troops. Do you guys still think by next week it’s going to get worse?
Yepp. I mean for starters Trump is getting very desperate and becoming increasingly erratical but fundamentally these things take a fairly long time. The protests in Hong Kong for example has been going on for more than one year and similar movements have had similar time-frames in USA's history.
Ok then we’ll check back in a week. I did watch cnn and MSNBC yesterday and didn’t see violent riots or armies in major us cities but it was taco Tuesday. Honestly think the riots are already in the past but will keep my word and follow up next week.
Keeping my word I’m following up and feel grateful after 2 weeks the riots and looting haven’t continued or gotten worse. The minority owned businesses are not being destroyed like they were 2 weeks ago. And thankfully Trump hasn’t ordered the military to occupy the major cities of the US. Safe to say the violence is on our past and hopefully it doesn’t come back. Happy to see citizens are being peaceful in exercising their first amendment rights. In summary returning to the original question no, I don’t think Trump is preparing for war against the people of America.
I would not be so sure. I mean for starters the unrest is by no means over and while police has not escalated the situation beyond the normal skull cracking and rubber bullet firing into crowds than normal there was that story about how a militia group confronted a group and shot one of them.Then we have the CHAZ autonomous zone and Trump pushing to label ANTIFA as a terrorist organization (and presumably using that as an excuse to do worse things against them). The only reason I can think of that things has not already gone down the drain is that the protest movement is so widely popular and that is freaking out the Republicans.
don't you think there's already a high enough percentage of American citizens in American prisons? i mean if america tops one global statistic, it's incarceration percentage xD
Right, and because I determine you a piece of shit then that means you should be hung by your little balls from a tree branch? That's how democracy and justice works in the USA now huh? Just because the dictator says so then that's how it is? What happened to freedom? Oh right it is only allowed when it aligns with your believes..Well I guess all Americans are terrorists by that measurement because if you pick up a fucking book and stop watching your cable television and YouTube for once then you would find that the European colonization of North America was not just a peaceful protest, it involved massacres of Indigenous populations and violent riots to depart from the monarchy and declare independence.But no, just fulfill the stereotype of the typical white male American of being a dumbass who couldn't even read the glossary of a book let alone an entire history book of the country that you feel so patriotic about. You are the type of person that attracts all of the white male disdain because you were more than likely born into a privileged position and have no care in the world to empathize with those who face issues that you didn't have to so you outright deny the existence of them and call them terrorists when their leaders ignore them for decades and they become fed up with it and demand changes
@HartleyB well freedom and democracy was already taken by corona measures xD so really something has to be done to take them back. but i agree that disorganized looting and burning of random places in a quasi terrorist fashion doesn't help that cause at all.please stop spreading the idea of "being born into a privileged position". social inequality will always exist in every society and having an advantage from social inequality is not "privilege". "privilege" is if a group of people is allowed something that the other group of people is not allowed.white people don't have privilege.
@genericname85 do poor people have access to high quality healthcare in your country? If you are born with more then you have access to more and black people in the USA are statistically poorer as a persistent residual effect of past wrong doings from white people to black people in North America and most of the white descendants KEPT the ill-gotten gains. That is a privileged position in society from birth, was your first car a Lamborghini? If not, why not? Didn't work hard enough like the other people who got a Lamborghini from their parents at 18? Or it's because you were not born into that privileged position.If you want to play some stupid semantic game, we can call it an advantageous position
@HartleyB yes poor people have access to healthcare. they just can't afford it. they're not "forbidden to have healthcare". now income is one dimension of social inequality, sometimes it can be structural. but it is structural to the system of capitalism, not perpetrated by white people and therefore not white peoples fault.by the way, there is actually minority privilege, cause they have quota that help them overcome social inequality in education. white people don't have those rights, that's why that is actually a "privilege".i'm not playing on semantics. social inequality is a pretty tough problem to solve and i need to be very precise with words, not cause i love semantics but because we can't start blaming innocent people.social inequality is the problem we need to solve. not "white privilege". we need to work together. not against each other.
@HartleyB i mean black people happen to perform better in basketball or the rap industry on average. does that mean black people are oppressing white people in basketball and rap industry?
@genericname85 that is the wierdest justification to deprive someone of life saving medicine that I have ever heard "they can do that, they just can't afford to" that is exactly my point you are arguing for me! Most of the people who can afford it did nothing to earn it, they were born into a privileged position. Some things shouldn't have a price, here in my country healthcare is a right and not reserved only for those who can afford it. Almost like, removing the privilege of being born into wealth removes the whole "not a right it's a privilege" argument and just goes straight to saving lives as a healthcare system should doSure, class stratification is the real problem here but that is my point again, the classes that are secured from ill-gotten gains stratified black people to the lower classes as a result of former discrimination by law which also reflects in crime as poverty usually invokes crime which leaves a gaping would for current racists to spit in and accuse black people of being a biologically inferior race. So current laws may appear to favour minority groups, that's because they do because the majority group, white people undertook horrible actions against the minority groups which left persistent class stratification to this day in North America so it is the least you could do to try to remediate the wrongdoings. And yes, not all white people committed these actions but everyone saying that it isn't a problem at all is just going with the old ignorance is bliss and that alone is a destructive mindset
@HartleyB most people who can afford it did nothing to earn it? what? so you're saying they're not working to earn money to afford healthcare?look, i'm not saying that it's a "good thing" that lot's of black people can't afford healthcare. i'm not saying social inequality is good and i don't like that black people seem to suffer more from social inequality. that doesn't mean those people that are at the better end of social inequality make the others suffer. hate the game, not the player.
@HartleyB because guess what. if you're a black person who's insanely successfull, earning lots of money, you're using the same system everyone uses and it is equally your "fault" that others are at the bottom end. so being successfull has nothing to do with your skin color. it has to do with your life decisions.and we are already working at reducing inequality by giving minorities privileges over white people. it is quite hard to eliminate social inequality, without disowning people...
people already cry out "socialism" for what little tax they have to pay... here in germany, roughly 50% of your income goes away for freaking taxes.
Yep, the people who can afford to get immediate high quality treatment more often than not inherited wealth or at the very least inherited the means for education and social capital to get work to afford it which you guys pretend does not matter and you can just pull yourself up from your bootstraps, but they shouldn't have to work for it, an educated and healthy population is essential to democracy so those should be considered rights, not something that people have to be able to afford to have access to, pay to win system?I am criticizing the game, but I am also criticizing the players who cheat to keep the game providing the goods to them while yes, depriving it from others as I know that it is not a zero sum game but an economy is a balancing act and social and economic inequality will always lead to a sick society so it should be avoided and not excused
We're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic. And I don't agree with the continuation of the lockdowns because the risk is now very low and people are losing their jobs. I don't know what your rant is about, you're not allowed to kill innocent people and burn down businesses of people you don't even know, you think that's unreasonable?
well those are people like you and me, believe it or not and if you think of them as animals, you're litterally doing the same thing to them that hitler was doing to the jews. don't get me wrong, i disagree with people looting and ruining shit but there's reasons that that happens and those reasons are not "well they're animals", cause they have allways been the same people and not burned shit down and looted, so you gotta look at what changed to make them behave like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DehumanizationYou would have made the Nazis proud V12NI
I consider people as animals based on their actions, hitler killed innocent people because he was animal, these rioters destroy and steal innocent people property and they don't give a shit about their victims so I am and I will call these rioters animals. And you supporting this violence against innocent people are way closer to nazis than I am
No its not.
Hitler was an animal because he hated people for superficial characteristics out of their control. Hitler hated peaceful, decent people just living their lives.I, on the other hand, hate people who destroy or steal other peoples belonging. I don't hate them Jews or black people, or whomever. I hate people because of the actions they take, and if that makes me a Nazi then sieg heil.P. S. gas the rioters (with pepper spray of course)
@Sargentcaptain Hitler was an Animal because he dehumanized people by calling them Animals.
@Soteris Ok, let's play this game. Are war criminals not animals? Murderers? Rapists? Pedophiles? People who have no respect for others lives, safety, or possessions? People who go around throwing molotov cocktails? What about people who strangle a man while he's in handcuffs and while he's being pinned to the ground by another man? What about people who could stop those animals and save the mans life? Are ISIS members animals? How about people who bomb building with innocent civilians, or people who crash a plane into a building? Were Nazis anything else but animals? Hitler defiantly was no saint? How about policemen who use their power to senselessly beat people or murder them? Are slave owners not animals? Would you describe Harvey Weinstein as an animal? How about Jeffrey Epstein? Was Saddam Hussein anything but an animal? What about Bin Laden, or Uday Hussein? Wasn't Mussolini an animal? Are people who want to kill every member of a certain race animals? What about sexists?
@Sargentcaptain No, calling them Animals does not explain away how terrible they are. They are humans, just like you and me. Own it. They do not do bad things because they are any less than you, they do it because that is their choice. Likewise you are not exempt from becoming like them either, you are also a human. All it takes is a choice.
@Soteris Really? You say hitler was an animal only because he called others animals? Not because he burned people alive, but just because of a word animal? And you defend those psychopaths, because you don't like the word? How about they act civilized, then maybe I would call them humans. Humans protest, animals riot and destroy innocent people's properties.
When I said Hitler was an Animal I was making a parody. I see Hitler and every other bad person as a Human, someone scarily similar to me. I am me because I was born under my circumstances just as how I might have been Hitler had I been born under his. I am under no illusion that I would have fought on the side of Nazi Germany had I been living in Germany during that time as an abled man because that was just normal.Perhaps you think you are special, that you would not have done what everyone else did. Perhaps you are correct but I doubt it.
Correct, liberals think riots are a good thing. That looting is great, and if try to stop it , you are declaring war.
Oh double D's , quit listening to media's made up lies. I doubt you have DD's too.
That was tried but the lies didn't work.
@888theGreat They weren't lies. The only reason he's still in office are Republican cowards held the majority. Trump is a disgrace to anything good left in government, and so are his criminal cohorts, most of whom are already jailed or pardoned. There's more to come.
yes, there is Trump's reelection , swearing in, and rebuilding the economy., even if Liberals are trying to destroy it.
@888theGreat you're sadly clueless, but ignorance can be bliss.
You just described yourself , liberals often project their selves
@888theGreat Well I apologize if facts make you uncomfortable. Sounds like a personal problem. heil !!
Well I'm not sure if that's gonna go well for the revolutionary people xD
Lmao probably not but I've always wanted to do that haha