I'm gonna stop you because you lied in the very first sentence. The fact that the FBI was warning police departments that white supremacists were making attempts to infiltrate police departments shows that is a blatant lie. Furthermore we know for a fact that stop and frisk laws were used to attack minority communities. If you want to argue that it isn't as prevalent that's another thing but to say it doesn't exist at all is a blatant lie
Except everything I stated is factually correct. Just because you want to claim all police are racist doesn't make it true. Just because you want to deny that blacks account for over half of all crimes in this country (which started in the sixties and very rapidly ramped up to the current numbers they are at now i. e. it wasn't racism that is causing this) despite being only 13% of the population doesn't mean its not true. You can claim that the FBI, DOJ, BJS, CDC, NCVS, Harvard, etc. are all racist bigots and only BLM and you are not but that will never be reality. Black officers have the same arrest records as white officers, their are 53.5 million police interactions a year, out of those.001% result in a fatal occurrence, out of those only 4% are questionable, out of those less then 50% are actually black, out of those I couldn't tell you precisely but considering that data shows black and Hispanic officers are far more likely to fire on a suspect then white officers (because only white officers get accused of racism for doing their job) we can say that at least some of those questionable occurrences are from black or Hispanic officers. So no your not "stopping" me, your trying to argue against reality because its not telling you what you want to hear. I don't care about what you want to hear, I just care about the facts, I speak the truth and that is all I don't care about anything else.
@Hypnos0929 As for stop and frisk, that was in new York only, created by Bloomberg, a democrat, in a democrat city, in a democrat state, take it up with them don't blame the rest of the country did because of one asshole politician that was part of your political party. As for the KKK infiltration, that's moronic. If your talking about that from sixty seventy years ago, sure, democrats definitely sent the KKK into any and all positions they could, but now? The KKK and the Neo Nazi's combined at the highest estimates rounding up and throwing an additional 500 in for good measure don't even reach 10,000 members today in a nation of 222 million whites. That's a non issue. So yes it doesn't exist. If you want to claim that their are racist individuals, sure, its a stupid thing to say because obviously your going to have racist individuals in any organization that numbers in the hundreds of thousands, but if your saying as a predominant issue, as a systemic issue, as a department wide issue, as a city wide issue, as a precinct wide issue, as more then just an individual persons issue? No your wrong and all data shows that as well as common sense. Racism is not an issue in our society to date (at least not from whites).
s3.documentcloud.org/.../...acist-infiltration.pdfHere is a link to the FBI warning reportAlso you literally just went on a lying spree.1) I never claimed all police are racist2) Black people don't account for over half of all crime, you didn't even attempt to look up the truth did you?3) The biggest boom in the prison population was caused by the war on drugs which the Nixon administration admitted was a ploy to arrest black and hippie leaders in mass as well as demonize them in public. So get your facts right. Furthermore the FBI stated Black people and white people use drugs at the same rate but black people are more likely to get arrested for them (Ironically enough innocent black men are 12 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes than innocent white people according to the national Registry of Exonerations)4) I never called any of those organizations racist5) I never used the words Racist or Black Lives Matter, you assumed I did because you clearly can't read6) Black people are statistically more likely to be killed by police officers than white people, this is an undisputed fact. More white people are killed but black people are more likely to be killed.7) You have zero proof black or Hispanic people are more likely to fire on a police officer 8) If you really cared about just the facts then you would learn to read9) I said white supremacists, not KKK or Neo-Nazis. Again learn to read.10) You just said there is racism in police departments but that there's also no racism from whites. You also stated the KKK and Neo Nazis have members but you dont think racism is an issue "from whites". You must really have a hard time getting your foot out of your mouth because you have just shown that racism does exist and it is a problem.
@Hypnos0929 I did not go on a "lying" spree. Everything I stated was accurate, if you are claiming that their is racism within the police, you are stating EXPLICITLY that the MAJORITY of officers are racist, and I presume you are not referring to all the black and Hispanic officers. You cannot make a broad sweeping claim then bitch and whine that your being accused of making a broad sweeping claim, own your statements, clarify what you meant if necessary, but don't pretend you didn't say it (especially since this is written and I can literally read your title as I am writing this). Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm lying, that's just intellectually dishonest on your part.As for you again, accusing me of lying, this is FBI, DOJ, BSJ statistics which are backed by the CDC and NCVS. Nothing I stated was a lie, again, just because you don't like it, just because it contradicts your beliefs, doesn't mean that its not true (and attacking me for my statements isn't going to win me over even if what I was saying wasn't entirely correct, it just serves to make me irritated and less civil (so perhaps you might want to reign it in a little and stop treating people who disagree with you like they are the enemy and need to be destroyed (because if that's how you treat them they are going to start responding to you in kind (never use a weapon you don't want used against you.).
@Hypnos0929 As for the FBI document, first and foremost it was 14 years old when released, not sure how that relates to right now, second by its own admission it is rare and sporadic (their words), and at no points states that this is currently an issue, they also don't say if they actually found one who has but rather only that which was alleged to have happen on rare occasion and that if they did get acess to information it could be an issue (something they do for all sorts of groups). So its a rather meaningless paper (the equivalent of suggesting to change your locks when buying a house). They also listed black supremacists as a bigger threat then white supremacists and is within the past two years:www.newsweek.com/fbi-leak-black-identity-extremist-threat-1453362As for your accusations of me lying:extranewsfeed.com/blacks-make-up-approximately-13-of-the-us-population-while-they-commit-52-of-crime-5f14cab1cc64ucr.fbi.gov/.../expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xlswww.wsj.com/.../jason-riley-the-other-ferguson-tragedy-1416961287www.dailywire.com/.../7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-crime-aaron-bandlernypost.com/.../www.washingtontimes.com/.../So clearly I am not lying.
@Hypnos0929 As for the war on drugs, yes, that's a problem, but are you suggesting that blacks are inherently more inclined towards drugs then whites? Isn't that racist? The biggest boom occurred with fatherlessness and this is a known fact (because along side drug use, murder rates were steadily climbing as well only slowing down with more aggressive policing of black neighborhoods).www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statisticswww.unitedfamilies.org/.../Here is an article from Thomas Sowell (a black professor at Cornell) talking about it and how welfare allowed for the break down of the black family which has resulted in all the problems seen within the black community today: www.nationalreview.com/.../
@Hypnos0929 As for the claim of the war on drugs, that's just bullshit. First and foremost the Harrison act was the first push to criminalize drug use (Which was put forward by representative Frances Burton Harrison, who was an American born Filipino (unless you wish to claim he was secretly racist too?), second Nixon never stated that he wanted to hurt blacks with the war on drugs, that's absurd (seriously where do you come up with that? If the person is cartoonishly evil, their is a good probability that they are being misrepresented).www.history.com/topics/crime/the-war-on-drugsThe only "evidence" we have that he was trying to target blacks (and again, its rather racist of you to perpetuate this idea that they are inherently more prone to drug use) is a claim that an aid said so. That's not evidence (we also have claims that Lyndon B. Johnson used the welfare system to get to intentionally destroy the black family and force them to vote democrat despite it being against their best interest too, are you willing to accept heresay and no evidence their too or only when its most convenient for your argument?).
@Hypnos0929 As for the claims of the organizations being racist, I didn't state that you literally said that, what I was saying was that you could make the claim (as most do.) that they are racist to dismiss them but it won't actually alter anything. That was not a statement suggesting you were, I simply saw how you were behaving and its exactly like all the others who then make that argument so I was simply pointing out that IF you make that argument you will be wrong and racist because 90% of the time, that argument is in fact made. I'm sorry that their was a misunderstanding with that.
@Hypnos0929 @Hypnos0929 As for your number five point, you used the term racism, which implies a racist as you cannot have racism within an organization (and implied at large levels otherwise you wouldn't be claiming the organization is racist but rather pointing to a specific individual who was). Common sense. So why you would be foaming at the mouth with anger about that is rather strange.As for your next claim, that is patently false as well. Its intentionally misleading as it ignores legal shootings and ignores the substantially higher rates of police contact due to substantially greater rates of criminality (as I have already shown with multiple sources (the FBI being one of them)):www.npr.org/.../new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspenypost.com/.../www.dailywire.com/.../5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandlerSo again, you are provably incorrect on all accounts (and also that is racist to presume that cops are racist (as again, you have to claim that if you are claiming they are actively targeting blacks, especially when you clearly haven't bothered to do any research (ironic since that is what you have claimed I have done yet I have provided far more sources then you have and with in-depth analysis as well).
@Hypnos0929 As for your point 7 and 8, first your insults are petty and make you look like a jackass since I have provided multiple sources for every one of my points you have claimed I have lied about (because unlike you, I can read, I have read more in a year then you probably have in ten (I am currently surrounded by well over 500 books as I write this now. Also again, I have provided evidence and you have provided tantrums. Act like an adult and you will be taken seriously, act like a child and you will be treated as one, its your choice.). As for the Hispanic and black cops, I have already provided multiple links that speak about that already but here is another:www.washingtontimes.com/.../Point 9, The KKK and Neo Nazi's are the two largest white supremacist groups in the country, so my statement stands (and that is a rather petty and stupid thing to argue about now isn't it? Again it makes you look like a jack ass when you act like your absolutely certain and right only for it to be shown you knew absolutely nothing because you never bothered to put in the time to learn about these things. I'm trying to be nice but my patience is being worn thin with your attitude.).
Did you lose calories jumping to so many conclusions?1) NO. JUST NO. Saying there is racism in police departments doesn't mean the majority are racist. That's a stupid assumption that you are pushing.2) Read my first statement again. Not with your English teacher this time. Read it word for word as it is written then tell me what broad assumptions I made.3) I'm telling you that you're stupid because you deserve to be told that. You're making false statements and rather than correcting yourself, you're trying to put words in my mouth and jumping to conclusions. If you don't want to be treated badly then don't act like a child. You're a grown ass man who says that only facts matter, act like it.4) You do realize 14 years is no time right? Especially considering the FBI made the warning specifically because white supremacists were entering academies to get approved. Furthermore a cop whose been on the force for 14 years is significantly more protected by their unions.
5) The FBI investigates, the CIA records and keeps this kind of data and Homeland monitors domestic threats. All approved this message.6) You posted 2 opinion pieces, the first had no citations at all. And neither told you about exoneration rates which have been climbing since the introduction of DNA evidence.7) Did you actually read the data you posted or did you read the titles and say "Good Enough". The Turk even states both groups WSE and BIE are medium threats but the FBI is more concerned about BIE because they aren't organized like WSE and more recent events are provoking BIE.8) You again did not read I clearly stated "The FBI stated Black people and white people use drugs at the same rate but black people are more likely to get arrested for them" how does that translate to black people use drugs more often?9) The 1960s wasn't the cause of the lack of fathers in black households. It was specifically the war on drugs which the Nixon administration admitted was a ploy to demonize black people, arrest black leaders, and attack Nixon's political enemies (The black and hippie movements which were growing in power).
@Hypnos0929 as for your 10th point, you are intentionally lying, rather stupid as we can go back and see what I ACTUALLY said. As per usual your smug attitude exists because of the dunning Krueger effect. What I stated was, sure in an organization compromising 686 THOUSAND people, you can definitely find some one who is racist, that does not mean its rampant or an actual issue.What I stated was that yes, their are white supremacists in this country because you will ALWAYS have them, but if you look at the percentages, they are such a trivially small group with no potlical influence what so ever that they are not a real issue, in fact we have more black supremacists per capita then white supremacists. If you look at the numbers, they make up about.005% of the white population, if you look at black supremacists, they make up about.01%(based upon my best estimation based upon the number of chapters and groups). As you can see, their are far more black supremacists per capita then white ones. Ergo they are not an issue. If your trying to achieve perfection, as your seeming to suggest, then your going to fight for a lost cause because that doesn't exist. If your trying to fight for the best possible world we can, then you should be fighting against black supremacists and treating white supremacists as secondary based upon the data.
@Hypnos0929 So inconclusion, no, I do not think that a tiny tiny tiny fraction of americans being racist, something that cannot be stopped (just like I can't stop you from acting like self important jackass who thinks he knows everything when you clearly haven't studied a single thing) only mitigated (and it has been) is an issue. When you have more blacks murdered by other blacks then you have white supremacists, we can safely say that that is the real issue.
@Hypnos0929 Talking to you is pointless, you didn't read a single one of my sources (no they were not opinion pieces, they sited sources which you would know if you actually read them. On top of that I provided 15 different sources, several of which directly site the research paper, one was directly from the FBI and the rest sited the FBI/NCVS). I didn't jump to a conclusion, if you say they are racist then your saying a significant portion are racist because again, if it was one person you would point to the one person instead of the entire organization. As stated your not worth talking to because you have done no research and your not intent on doing so now. You read none of my sources, you have not listened to a single word spoken, you responded far to quickly to even have read anything I wrote. Your never going to acknowledge you were wrong despite the massive amounts of data provided that directly conflict with what your saying. You have tried to change what has already been stated, your not willing to listen, or read or accept the notion that you could be wrong and your disrespectful to the extreme. You are not worth my time.
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I've seen a black guy threaten to shoot a white guy during a casual argument. My friend had a black guy pull a knife and rob him while they were hanging out. Another friend of mine got drugged and raped by a black guy she was hanging out with. Another friend of mine had a black guy pull a gun on her and raped her outside of a gas station.
@wisefool Those are all horrible things. I’m sorry they happened to you and your friends.
@wisefool so by those encounters all blacks are bad? Lol you know how many Caucasians do those crimes do you know how many whites are sex offenders to kids? So does that make all whites kiddie fiddlers shut up with ur bias comparisons that can be compared back your people too
@Fuentes I agree with you. I was just too lazy to type all that.
I always slap this foo he is mentally challenged
@Fuentes "all blacks are bad" you said it not me. i've had plenty of black friends but it also happens that all the robberies and rapes that happened to people i know were committed by black guys. now you get defensive and start name calling, you sound like an exemplary person. i could start quoting statistics but i won't because it will just embarrass you and make you look worse than you already do.
@wisefool your statistic won't save you so are you a kiddie fiddler homie cause y'all whites hella high in that so you mad bro? What's wrong if blacks are bad then everyone should keep their kids away from y'all right
@Fuentes You jealous bro because whites don't breed at 12 years old and screw up their entire life? Aw go cry to the government and ask for assistance. Or just become a criminal and pretend you're not when you get arrested.
Got to love the internet and white privilege.
@wisefool actually they're tons of white girls prego in there teen years all on government food stamps and wic did 16 & preganant and teen mom the tv show not show that.. Hahaha yeah whites are the main ones on welfare go pull up the statistics thats why trump is blasting blacks are working at an all time high while y'all tryna suck the governments tit and get on ssi and it just sounds like your upset most lost there virginity in highschool while you waited forever or are still a lonely little virgin boy thats socially inept
@Fuentes wow you are a fucking loser. keep pretending that blacks aren't on welfare at several times the rate as white people.
And just like that the butt hurt weirdo blocked me so easy hahaha!
@Fuentes he's a pussy, who uses the N word on here when he wouldn't in real life.
@wisefool Actually white people receive the most government assistance (welfare).
@Cherokeehp Because they are the majority of the population. Blacks still have several times the rate. Are you really that bad at understanding basic math and are you just trying to annoy me?
@wisefool Just trying to annoy you.
That's why he's so fragile and had to block me haha
You are exactly right. I totally agree.
People should hate interracial relationships, when they have children it contributes to eliminating both races to the point everybody will be marking mixed on the forms they fill out. God was against race-mixing, it's in the Bible and if you look to the animal kingdom, mixing doesn't exist, it goes against nature. Even within the same species they don't mix, no robins with sparrow, no donkeys with horses, no tigers with lions. Racism will never die, it will only get worse and the blacks are to blame for it. Instead of screaming racism all the time, we need dialog about what causes it. Creating ghettos and slums, over a billion dollars in damages from all the rioting and looting throughout the years, violent crimes against White people. White people should not be blamed for being racist.
@KAT51 you're a pathetic entitled boomer.
Another person who has no debate in them so start the name-calling. The truth obviously hurts!
@KAT51 you're racist as fuk. What's wrong with inter racial marriage?
@KAT51 Those animals can’t breed because they aren’t the same species, but different races can. And there’s no birth defects or problems with the kids they turn out fine so that’s a sign that it doesn’t matter what races mix. There’s countries full of mixed race people, one I read about was Asian/Indian people and their living just fine because their mixed race nation goes back to B. C. Kind of days. If you believe everything of the Old Testament get off GAG because it would be considered a sin and don’t cut your hair, don’t wear clothes with different types of fabrics together
Not me or anyone I know has ever got away with shit for being white. In fact, I was quite surprised when my black female friend told me she got pulled over and didn't even get a ticket.
@wisefool And I have my own experiences and know others who had ones that say otherwise. Just because you don’t experience it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
Sounds like you should be telling yourself that. In my opinion it depends on where you live, the officer, and the circumstances.
Are you a middle class white person by any chance?
Are you are racist person by any chance?
Nope not all. But are I'm guessing you are.
Well you’re prejudiced behavior towards race tells a different story. You’re actions speak louder than your words. You’re a racist.
So basically people are rioting and taking Knees for nothing? I think you dont have a clue what you're talking about
Well no one ever accused you of being a great thinker. The fact of the matter is you asked a question about cops with very leading language which shows your bias. I answer a question about cops ignoring bias. Then you jump on my race as if it matters at all in a discussion about cops. That shows you are either going to qualify or disqualify my remark soul on my race. Thus you think one races opinion is more value or “superior” than another. You are in fact a racist in every since of the word. You can’t just discuss cops because everything is seen through your racist lens.
Who are they keeping in power
White people have been in power since slavery. When slaves were freed they were not given land, without that there is no way to build generational wealth. Then segregation and so on and so forth. The system is stacked against people of color because no one wants to share power. All you have to do is open a history book.
I'm not saying your wrong. But which people does it keep in power today. Names?
Donald trump and countless others. It's the entire system.
What numbers do you speak of?
@Porcelaine black people are 8 times more likely to be killed by police. They are 24% of those killed eventhough they make up 13% of the the population...
Do you know the numbers of black people committing crimes vs their population and same for whites? I do not mean to accuse of black people committing more crimes, but neither black nor white people dont end up on those crime scenes in front of a policeman with a gun by accident. I'd like to know is there a statistic to that?
@Porcelaine black neighborhoods are policed more that others because of the preconceived notions that they are all criminals. And no one is disputing that criminals should be arrested but why are they killed at higher rates while being arrested for the same crimes. I dont have that statistic but generally there is more crime where there is more poverty and less opportunities.
You are aware they are required to wear body cams, right? Those cameras won't cover for anybody and they are required. Everybody needs to stop buying into everything the main stream media is pushing. The main stream media is owned by 6 corporations that are doing their best to start a race war.
Are you a cop?
@OsloMan181 personally no. my brother in law is a state cop though and my grandfather was new York Ranger back in the day
Not in Minnesota. They have been known to have a corrupt police force across the board.
I’ve no doubt of that. It was just an interesting musing I figure I’d share.
This is a good comment.
I dont know. I'm not American lol
What do they do in your country? Do they racially profile there?
Sort of some of them. But no deaths from whst I've seen
It's actually been proven the exact opposite. Black people are more likely to be killed by police. More white people are killed but the likelihood of a white person being killed is less.
A lot of people on here are blind
Sexism? More like racism 🤔
Fuk up you little virgin.
Nigga I didn't even say anything to u stfu and go dieAlso i just fucked ur mom and you can't even spell right dumbass. Haha
Go to love the internet eh? You can say things you won't say in real life.