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New Jersey, we have 2 friends who are both officers, earn base salary of $125,000 plus any OT they get working on their days off when traffic duty is needed by utility companies. And that is around $90 an hour...
I need to go to New Jersey then lol...
Here in Thailand they (well: some) then will improve their income by diverting fine payments. I recently saved 50% of the official fine sum by doing so... (traffic offense)
Ah cool I didn’t know you lived in Thailand :)!
It was an accident. But a good one :) I'm still surprised myself, heh heh.
What brought you there?
My profession did. I followed an offer from a Malaysian company, and when that contract expired, I had no wish to return to Europe. The next opportunity opened in Thailand - and here I am. In now 17 years I have assimilated some of local (SE Asian) culture and found that this 'mixing' of things suits me personally a lot better than what I had before.
I’m glad to hear it my friend :)
As a side effect, this move made me find out how pointless it is to think in 'races' and 'nationalities'. It would be good for many people to personally experience to be 'a foreigner' or to not being 'one of us'.
Girl, that's not true. Being a cop isn't even considered a top 10 dangerous job. Police officers have a vest, gun, paper spray, a police stick and backup. That doesn't sound too dangerous compare to some other jobs.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I never said it was THE most dangerous job, but it is, in fact, dangerous. Just because you have weapons doesn't mean someone else with a weapon can't cause you great harm, or even kill you. The military has all sorts of safety gear and weapons as well, but that doesn't make combat a safe job.
A soldier and a cop don't even belong in the same sentence, as a matter of fact is very disrespectful to a solider. A solider in the battlefield has to worry about hidden land mines, snipers from 1,000 yards away hiding in the mountains, bullets constantly flying towards him, RPGs, grenades, tanks, a group of enemies surrounding him planning attacking with all sorts of weapons and explosives.A cop will hardly if ever will have to have fire their weapon justly when its clearly warranted for him or her too. The immense majority of public citizens (even criminals) will not pull a gun on a cop and aim it towards him or her nor attack them with a knife therfore a cop has no business firing his or her weapon nor is the job "dangerous" a bus driver job is more dangerous driving a huge bus with dozens of people in it.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy How is it disrespectful to the soldier? Not to mention that not all military members are soldiers. Cops deal with criminals and overall generally dangerous people on a regular basis. It may not be to the degree that the military deals with, but you can't argue that it isn't dangerous, and definitely more dangerous than the average job. Yes, a bus driver could run across some bad people, but cops disproportionately deal with them because it's a huge part of their job. Not to mention that with all of the cop hate going on these days, they're being targeted more than usual.
LOL... girl, c'mon. I saw a girl cop yesterday (she's was cute) but her arms were that of a 13 year old girl. The average man will easily break her face and overcome her. It shows, anyone can pretty much become a cop.And as I said, the immense majority of criminals will not use deadly force on a cop. A cop can be a cop for 30 straight years and if he has 5 shoot outs that will be many. It rarely happens a criminal will pull out a gun on a cop and aim it on him.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I agree that the people hired to be cops should be physically able to handle it. However, that still doesn't make the job any less dangerous. Well, there are several cops who have died in the line of duty, so I don't believe it's quite that rare. Even if so, though, it absolutely is a dangerous job, and more dangerous than the average job.
Check how many cops are in the U. S. and compare it to how many of them been shot and killed in the last decade. Bet it will be like maybe 1% or possibly less.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It still doesn't make the job they do safe. Again, compared to your average job, it IS significantly more dangerous. How many people do you hear about getting killed at their desk jobs, working in restaurants, etc?
Girl, please, driving around is inherently dangerous. Check out death rates or serious injury with car wrecks.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Nice evasion with my last question. And yes, dealing with potentially armed and dangerous criminals on a daily basis absolutely is dangerous. Driving is dangerous as well, that doesn't make being a cop any less dangerous. Again, how many deaths or even serious injuries on average do you see from run of the mill jobs?
Obviously none, sitting at a desk, so I pointed out that driving around is inherently dangerous. I never said being a cop isn't dangerous. Its just not as "dangerous" as people want you to believe.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy You said "that doesn't sound too dangerous compared to some other jobs", and I don't know about you, but the vast majority of jobs outside of certain military jobs or those in which your risk of death is relatively high (not your usual jobs, and those jobs are usually very highly paid, such as linemen, etc.) aren't anywhere near in the realm of dealing with potentially armed and dangerous people every day, plus the high speed chases they go on, and now that people are losing their minds, the fact that they're being targeted for violence.
Awww. Sad to see when the tables are turned, huh? For years police departments have let rotten cops who are criminals into the force and instead of removing them ASAP they covered and kept it hush hush for those lawless cops because you can't go against the "brotherhood" and snitch.Now, police departments are infested with these rotten apples making a honorable profession look like an organized crime mob.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy So two wrongs make a right, and targeting random officers that did nothing to you is completely fine and justifiable? I completely disagree with that and always will. Why should the cops who actually DO protect and serve and don't agree with or try to cover up misconduct have to pay the price for the ones who have done the wrong thing?
I never said it was right what was happening, it called karma though. And most cops in the police department know there some cops who are out of order and don't follow the laws and abuse people and instead of them reporting them, they keep their mouths shut which makes them lawless too for protecting a crook.
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyAccording to my man @Physics-Man the number of unarmed blacks killed by cops in the last decade has been in the double digits. When you compare the population of cops and 10 years, you get a number that infinitely smaller than 0.0004% when it comes unarmed black men shot and killed by police. Also, the job of police is inherently dangerous. If you have to carry OC spray, a gun, wear body armor, etc. The job is dangerous. The risks are: -getting into a car accident while pursuing a suspect -interacting with higher risk populations like those with hepatitis c, HIV, COVID-19, etc. -getting into fights and hands-on interactions daily Statistics shouldn’t be used here, since the job is inherently dangerous for reasons we can all list. The fact that statistics show the job to be safe is probably because police are doing the job right and are trained...
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy You definitely didn't show that you thought anything was wrong with it with your "Awww" comment. You're also still trying to defend the killing and brutality towards innocent cops in the name of "karma".Even if "most" cops are guilty of something, how does assuming a random one is one of them and targeting them when they did nothing to you even close to understandable or okay? In any other profession, "mostly" crooked or responsible for wrongful death or not, no one would ever condone that.
@EmbraceThePain: Don't you see how insane that is? Why should a black man or any person for that matter be killed when he or she is unarmed and if armed didn't try to use their weapon to hurt anyone. Let me shoot an unarmed person and let's see what happens to me? Take a guess, I won't be home enjoying my Samsung smartphone tell you that much.
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyIt’s never okay for even ONE unjust police killing. I only wrote what I wrote to tell you, it’s NOT COMMON. It’s not even close to common. It’s EXTREMELY EXTREMELY RARE. Less than 0.0004%. A lot less
Check how much 0.0004% in actually numbers are. I can easily remember like 5 in recent memory from the top of my head.
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyOut of 1,000,000 cops, 0.0004% is 400 bad cops. Again, I just made up the 400. The real number is even LESS than 400... It’s in the double digits supposedly.
I'm not talking about bad cops but rather how many unarmed people have been unjustly shot by them. And, look there no 400 or less bad cops out of 1,000,000, that's wilful and bias delusion on your part. Say there's 100 cops in a room 99 of them saw one cop do something illegal or know about it and did nothing about it nor reported it then there's 100 bad cops in the room. A cop that knows lawlessness is going regardless of who is doing it and doesn't do anything is lawless himself.
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyWhy do you assume police officers keep silent when they see a colleague commit an atrocious act? From what I’ve observed and experienced, most do not remain silent.
It doesn't have to be an atrocious act like murder. A simple illegal and unlawful act is enough. I mean check this video out. Not one cop comforted this coward for what he did.https://youtu.be/En9r4JstmlE
And I want a watch. 🙂