Funny you think 9 black people last year got shot while being unarmed is no big deal. I wonder would you write the same comment if a cop puts a slug unjustly in you because you're black.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Well first I didn't say it wasn't a big deal.. Every death is a tragically.. Secondly unarmed doesn't mean not dangerous. Take Michael Brown for instance.. He kept chargin at the Cop despite him havin a gun.. Thirdly I only mentioned it because gettin shot by a cop is very rare.. People make it sound like it's an epidemic. I gotta worry away more about gettin shot by Dequan down the street than some rare occasion by some cop..
You implied it wasn't a big deal when you wrote "The police have 375,000,000 interactions with the public every year.. Out of those interactions 1000 more or less people get killed/shot by the police.." 1,000 people is a whole bunch of people in one dang year!And don't compare dequan who is a regular citizen who isn't being paid to uphold the constitution and follow laws and enforce laws like cops are paid to actually do.Your mindset as a minority especially as a black man is what hinders progess from being made. Two weeks ago you and the whole world just saw one of your own get slowly murdered on camera while cuffed on the ground by 4 cops and you write some silly stuff like this? C'mon man. Think.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy No, I implied that it wasn't common.. And 1000 out of 330,000,000 people is less than the amount of people that die in "Black" neighborhoods across America in half a year. So I honestly don't care to hear that.. Plus most of those people were armed.. They were criminals.. Get robbed or shot and come by to me.. And yo statement about Dequan is the problem.. I don't have to worry about the damn police.. I live in Chicago on the Southside and never really gave them a thought when I saw them most of the time.. But with Dequan, I gotta worry more about gettin killed by him, since I'm away more likely to be killed by some Negro on the street. And you know What's hindering progress? Cryin about somethin that doesn't directly affect most "Black" peoples lives like systemic racism.. We had more actual damn discrimination back in the 50s and did better than we are doin now.. And IDC about identity politics.. My people are the ones who stick by me no matter the "race".
@JDavid25Love your comment and intelligence my man. We can all agree, black lives ARE important. They matter. We all care about them. BUT... Can we be honest and reasonable? Is it can issue? Yes, it is.Is it common? No, it’s not common. We need to take corrupt and racist cops out of the force, all of us can agree on that. @Hispanic-Cool-Guy I also understand your sentiment and feelings, thanks for your responses.
@JDavid25: I admire your wishful thinking. The vileness and hypocrisy of people are going to be revealed hard right before your eyes one day and its probably going to be soon. Its reality. The U. S. is deeply racist since its origin especially towards your people as they proved it in the past. But ok...
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyWhat do you mean “U. S” No... the PEOPLE of the PAST were awful and racist. The people today are very different. The people in 10-20 years from now will be different... The US is just a piece of land. People die, new people come in.
@EmbraceThePain Of course.. "Black" Lives definitely matter. Not to sound harsh though, but they only seem to matter when it involves a different race killing one of us, which is not common. George Floyd's killin broke my heart, but none of us know if it had anything to do with race. People just assume Chauvin was a racist, and not just an incompetent cop that went overboard. But thanks man.. 😎👍..
Bro, history whether you like it or not repeats itself. Racism hasn't gone anywhere, but rather it was socially repressed a bit and that's the mistake people make thinking its gone. The history in this country between whites and blacks is horrific, that spirit hasn't gone anywhere. I know how this cold and dark world works.
@JDavid25Yeah brother, broke my heart too. It was cruel.
@Hispanic-Cool-GuyI get you man, but the people of yesterday aren’t the people of today. Not even close. If the US was built off of racism, then EVERY single country has as well. EVERY single country. Even African tribes were racist towards other tribes of the same skin color, to the point they’d go to war and kill each other. Same for Asians. Same for whites. EVERYONE
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Wishful thinking? Yes there are still racist around. But that can go for anyone. You literally have "White" people kissin the feet of "Black" people.. I mean in certain cases (except online) it's been happenin for years, but now it's more than ever. The history of the U. S is complicated, but it is one of the freest countries in the world, and for the most part a good country for "Black" people to thrive.. Even back in the 50s you had middle class "Black" families.. The only thing that's hold the "Black" community today in this age is "Black" people..
@EmbraceThePain: You naively think they are not. Human nature doesn't change. And doesn't confuse these pathetic weirdos of your generation that are soft and are experts in virtue singling and being cucks. The generation of my nephew which he is 7 won't be so soft and sweet like this current cuck generation.
Whether or not you think its a big deal or not, it is certainly no excuse for rioting, causing over a dozen innocent deaths so far (since you are so mad about 9 unarmed people being killed by cops you should be ENRAGED by this!) assaulting dozens more, causing hundreds of millions in property damage by looting, burining, and destroying homes and businesses! All because "Black"... Talk about Virtue Signaling!
@genuinlysensitive: I don't support looting and randomly burning and shops and building.
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Yeah, many professions don't envlove a person holding a gun and busting and ripping your flesh with bullets killing you.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It doesn't matter, people in other professions can (and some do) cause deaths as well, and the percentage who don't do their jobs correctly don't represent the entire profession.
Statistics show the truth, a 30 second video taken out of context doesn't.
They aren’t 30 seconds, they’re usually several minutes long and plenty of context and background information is provided, and it’s usually pretty obviously unwarranted and illegal conduct. Perhaps you should actually look at some yourself?
I believe that it's still a rare occurrence, but not as rare as we once thought.
Well, either way, do you think this common or not?
Common but not that common. If you get what I mean.
I honestly don’t. Maybe we just have a different idea of what “common” means
Not all cases are being reported is what I am saying. Suppose 100 of these cases happen, then perhaps just 20 of them go reported.
I’m talking about “unjust killings” specifically. These are perhaps the best and most accurately reported things. If you’re talking about rape or domestic violence, perhaps you’d have a case.
My point remains unchanged.
This is perhaps why conversation is stifled between people. The knowledge and facts that we do have, as well as common sense, should be enough to make proper decisions and predictions about the future. Why do you plan for tomorrow? I guarantee you that you assume, with almost 100% certainty that tomorrow will happen for you. Why? Because of your common sense and the totality of facts. I suppose you could say that technically it’s not 100% that tomorrow will happen for you, but then you’d also have to acknowledge that you’re being unreasonable and difficult where fluid and reasonable common sense convos are present. Yes, I’m sure some go unreported, but how likely is that in this day in age? With people present, people with technology present, policies in place, etc. Even if we are certain some go unreported, is that number still high enough to conclude that this is common when we have concrete evidence it’s not? I’m trying to have a talk with you man, but it’s almost impossible when you say we can’t know what we already know...
I am not a journalist, I never talked to journalists and I am not keeping up with the news. I know just enough, so that I can mark a certain topic (such as this one) as "knowing enough to just know".Plenty of sources cite how journalism isn't about reporting stuff (much like school isn't about training intelligence/knowledge). Udo Ulfkotte (a then journalist) has revealed what journalism truly is about. They are working under the threat of being fired or killed if whoever pays them deems it as severe enough and will just say "Journalist X died of aneurysm".Again, since I am not one nor do I care too much about it, I am not able to provide any % of cases going unreported. It's not my job. It doesn't pay me any money and it does not invoke my personal interest.
Well, I’m talking about that. I’m talking about the actual numbers of police killings of unarmed men, from FBI and other official databases being very low (double digits in the last decade) versus what the media will have everyone believe that this is more common than the actual official numbers.
Doesn’t matter. He was still murdered on camera in front of a crowd. He wasn’t being violent or resisting. That cop made him a victim.
Yes and all the cops have been arrested and charged with murder. The violent rioters using George Floyd as an excuse have killed over a dozen innocent people, assulted dozens more, caused hundreds of millions in property damage, looting, burning, and destroying businesses and homes.
Charged, not convicted. Yes and hopefully they’ll all be charged with their own crimes.
That’s exactly my point. It’s not a matter of opinion, but many seem to believe it is.Hence what’s been going on all over the country with the protests and rioting.
Perhaps so, but that isn’t the question...
It's hard to tell man. Maybe it's overblown? Maybe not.. without proper research, how can we know?Bodycams & *good* fucking training would go a long way.
I think this is the only disagreement we have on this whole issue. I believe we have a 99% agreement except for this one significant point and perhaps a few minor points. I don’t really count the minor points.
I MIGHT type up a MyTake delving and utterly annihilating this misconception and popular belief that Cops are racist.
Last year for example only 9 unarmed Blacks were killed and 18 Whites were killed by Cops. Within the last decade the number has remained in the double digits and has seen a trend that is steadily dropping.
@Physics-ManYou know, just to give @Agape93 more help, I told her that even if the number was 400 objectively unjust killings in the past decade or decade in a half, the percentage would still be 0.0004 in favor of bad cops and the rest in favor of good cops. This is assuming the population of working cops is around 1 million. But, you mention it’s been DOUBLE digits instead of my example of three, for the last decade? That makes the number a lot smaller than 0.0004%. @Agape93 Keeps referring to videos she sees on YouTube when she defends her statement that this is common... @Physics-Man and I can see the issue in this and I think she can too, but she’s stubborn. @Agape93 I can view a real solar eclipse on YouTube... Does that mean it’s common? I can watch a lot of uncommon phenomena on YouTube... doesn't mean it’s common
100% correctNow answer my question
It depends on what you mean by "common." I think the vast majority of police killings are unjust, so, in that regard they are more common than "justified police killings," but the fact that most people aren't killed by police isn't really a matter of opinion. Even if cops were responsible for 100% of non-accidental deaths, that would still be relatively few compared to accidental (or natural) deaths. So, again, it depends on what you mean by common.