the tonypandy story reads like something written about trump 110 years laterwinstonchurchill.org/.../
Wait, what? "his wish to dismantle the nhs"? The NHS didn't exist until after WWII, iirc!
@goaded sorry, yeah he was against its set up and had infact wanted to stop any schemes to help the poor in need previously
You are judging a persons morality not by their times standards, but by todays moral standards.
@FakeName123 Yes that's my point, we should judge people by their times' standard.
O so he was jus lovely then nothing bad to how some people where bk then, so what's the problem now. Do you people know where these facts u speak of come from I'd like to know to source the info it's bullshit till then.
Will you stop I feeling like this adds to People hate u have no clue what your saying it's bullshit did he turn against the empire for Pakistan and Bangladesh to separate from India? This guy who hates so bad and all that u making up..
It’s not about rooting the racist out. It is about dismantling western civilization which was created by whites. Sadly, whites have no appreciation of their ancestors built for them and did for the world, racism is now considered worse than rape murder torture etc. Nonwhites are growing increasingly hateful of white civilization. Wanna look at the future? Look at South Africa from 1994-present
Beautiful response Poppy!
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Bring anyone back from the dead. . .
I have this mind picture of Madam Tussaud's with a twist... :)
I like that phrase "bring them back from the dealership" though. I might start using it.
This begs the question — did we actually lose the war?
Censoring the truth I see?
@ag0nist I learned that trick from you, Tox
One question to ask is: "why was the statue put up?"In Churchill's case, it was because he led the country in one of its darkest hours for a thousand years. It wasn't 50 years after his defeat to send a message to black people.
@goaded thats a point, but Im reminded of an episode of last week tonight where John, who is English, talks about a childhood hero of his who gave millions of dollars as sort of a make-a-wish project for kids. He had a statue and was knighted by the queen, turns out after he died they found out he was a pedophile who did some nasty things, leave his statue up or take it down?
I don't think there was a single person in the country who didn't want all monuments to Saville removed. And they were, I think.
Exactly! Why the statue was put up is at least as important as what the person believed.The US statues were put up to say "we may have lost, but we're still in charge!", Churchill's were to say "we beat the fascists!".
Why not quote them here?
Are you a Brit? I highly doubt it.
@SphynxUK You doubt I'm a brit (I am), or that they wouldn't put up with tearing down statues of Churchill?
he is one of the best people in history who literally saved the worldif he is a racist we should all strive to be racist
Nothing? Leading a country at war and in imminent danger of invasion isn't nothing. At most I'd prefix his plaques with "Despite his racist attitudes...".
@007kingifrit That's just stupid.
@goaded no it isn't, these people will use anti racism to destroy all our cultural icons and histories... we must stop them no matter whatthe only way to do that is to make peace with racism. for everyone is racist
Soz I messed up, this wasn't meant for your question, it was literally for the person down below who said he hadn't done one good thing in his life!..
the creation of the 'iron curtain' lead to the cold war which may not seem relevant today but was indeed a big part of American modern history and actually if you did research it you would see many similarities to americas new cold war with china
@wankiam *Trump's new cold war with china
@goaded yeah trump certainly instigated it under the title of trade war but lets face it, so many americans are now hateful of china that its gone beyond just him. covid didn't help
I can respect his role in history but that doesn't mean I have to like him as a person.
@ 36-45 blue anon Who cares if it came from a movie? It's a known fact that he smokes and drinks and is pretty overweight. The dude is a racist fat-ass. Nothing to respect about him.
The UK people were ready to fight but they needed a leader. Nothing would have happened without Churchill. Look at the French. They would have fought to the last man but they were sold out by their politicians.
He had his flaws. A bit of paint, OK; pulling it down isn't.
No. What they're doing is disgusting.