Actually they didn't enter the middle east for oil (we only get our oil, for the most part, from north america (about 40% ) and only about 8% comes from the middle east, specifically Saudia Arabia (the only place Obama didn't want to bomb). Many of the wars were for terrorism (or rather their was terrorists their. I think that was probably a cover in many cases) but I do think a good amount of them were for other things (political favors more then likely knowing hillary (for example Libya had to my knowledge done nothing to the US and was never a threat yet Clinton was more then happy to start a war their (not saying Gadaffi wasn't a dictator but it really wasn't our business)). Not saying that the wars were justified, in fact I think Obama was a war monger and didn't see a country he didn't want to bomb out of existence, but it was definitley not over oil (the only countries that benefited from these wars as far as oil is concerned is china and russia).As for the rest I agree whole heartedly. Its strange to see some one outside the US say this as most of the information about the US that leaves our country is through the media which is entirely on the left and insanely bias.
Terrorism? Bin laden family went out of america on a plane after 9 /11 Our egyptian intelligence agency told the U. s before it happened and george bush did not do anything.Second : bin laden lived in afghanistan , why did george bush entered iraq without any international law allows that to him? He saifd there are massive destruction weapons!! And after invading iraq and destroying it , destroying iraqi army , made the atmosphere very clear for any terrorism groups to apper such as ISIS Thr U. S announced they might have been wrong about destruction weapons!!! What do u say about that? The U. S headed to destroy every country in the middle east by supporting islamic movements ( Muslim brother hood ) to kick out regimes there and then leave this islamic terrorist group without dupport and fighting it after it achieved it's goals.U can read about the new middle east started by condoleezza rice
Trump , Trump, Trump
Lol what's that supposed to mean?
I am for him
Wow, a Canadian for Trump. Very rare..
Hahhaha well I would never vote for Hilary. Based on those two options i would vote trump every time. The way i see it is: trump=inexperienced in politics / doesn't know what he is doing.= possible outcomes -either do nothing for 4 years or start a commotion to make it seem like he is doing something or deviate attention. On the other hand Hilary- female (wife of Bill clinton- womanizer) also doesn't have a clue about politics but Bill does so basically she's running to prove something to Bill for cheating on her and technically it would be worse cause she'd probably be running with Bill as the feeder and she just the face so technically it would be like Bill Clinton was president. He would make change but look at the cunniving plan. What is the cunniving plan here? What's the agenda? In other words Hilary cannot be trusted. Trump on the other hand is you see what you get and you know what you're getting. Knowing what to expect is less harmful than hoping for good change only to get a knife flug in your back.
We would be at war with Russia if she won. I have no problems with Russia. We would have been in a depression pre Virus.
Trump was a better option of the 2
Of course , DNC won't put a real moderate.
Epitomy of 'asking for what you want'.
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Right... and Ivanka still sells her lines from Chinese sweat shops!
Yea, liberals like science fiction. They dress up like star war characters and and star Trek characters. Who are you? Dr. McCoy
@888theGreat Lolz, I'm a Liberal who makes science fiction into science fact. You should try doing something useful with your life, too. It feels great.
Third world countries don't test anyone unless they are on their death bed so they dramatically underreport COVID cases.
Yeah thats stupid. He was told to not shut down travel and he did it anyway. Meanwhile democrats were screaming how he was racist for doing so. The lock down is in the hands of the state and legally trump cannot make them lock down or not lock down (the irony is you people scream he is a tyrant and dictator, then you bitch and whine and scream how he is too weak and not doing enough when he rightly obeys the law and doesn't violate state rights.). As for third world countries, no, they are not testing. Second we don't have the highest number of cases. The UK has more cases per capita then the US does, so does Italy, and so does china (they just don't release their actual numbers (and have currently killed several people who tried to talk about it). Saying we have the most cases in the world (ignoring that china has lied and killed people who tried to talk about Coronavirus) yet neglecting to mention that we also have four times the population of the largest populated countries in Europe and in most cases higher then sixteen times more, is not just an oversight, its either a sign of extreme ignorance or an intentional ommision. Either way you are incorrect.
@DrippingHoney True their will be lots of people untested in the third world countries, but still, you can't argue the fact that the US is shown to be the worst in the world in terms of dealing with COVID@hellionthesagereborn Lol okay
@SpiderManFan2002 Our death rate isn't the highest. I guess "worst" is reletive.
@DrippingHoney Perhaps. But still arguably especially since you're the richest country in the world, you're one of the worst.
@SpiderManFan2002 To be fair to Trump he never gave Gavin Williamsom a position of power! lol
@AndrewMG Lol true. I mean us Brits can't really say much with BoJo in power, lol, but I'm not acting like our leadership is great because it isn't lol
@SpiderManFan2002 Oh I 100% agree I was just trying to give you a little bit of light relief! lol But you're 100% right... and not just Trump, but BoJo and lot's of other countries... economies are more important than lives. Sadly that's been the fact for the last couple of millenniums!
Lmao Austin blocked me for proving him wrong xD ignorant, thin skinned ass loser.
check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7JvFMpw_ro&t=1s . the president is a raving lunatic. he is not well.
@Sabretooth how biden wins his votes and get the pedophile of the decade awaard
Bruh trump has 43 rape allegations, 14 or which are little girls and boys
bit he is not the one supporting that MAP movement for pedophiles like biden and pelosi are and th3re even pushing for pedophiles to have a political office. i would rather have a business tyrant than a child predator in the white house. and all those so called charges are from anti trump affiliates
Are you crazy? The map movement was started by disgusting old men, it has nothing to do with politics. Stop trying to defend Trump, their all bad, trump is just the worst of the worst
exactly my point biden supports them and has said nothing denouncing the movement.
First of all it’s not a “movement”. Second of all people literally don’t know and they don’t care about it because it sounds ridiculous. It’s not public knowledge because a lot of people have no idea what it is. Are you saying trunk supports it as well?
no i am not because he has more responses on the trafic rings going recently being busted and the concerns he has about a traffic ring in america , biden has not said anything on the traffic ring and neither has pelosi, you can say there not gonna blame legal immigrant but thats where most of the kids are going. which is why i think biden is part f that whole child traffic thing he want go near it publicly.
@cheapshotbob when did i EVER say that i enforce biden?
@Sabretooth well if your against trump the only other option is biden unless you for one of those 3rd part socialist groups though with how thhngs are going anyone in the white house this next election is going to destroy this country. , you just got to decide you want too die , which like some sick suicide game of russian roulette
@cheapshotbob i don't vote for religious and personal reasons. all i'll say is that biden is the least insane.
@Sabretooth he has dementia they have plans to remove him as soon as he is elected , that lady is going to be president which is bad news , all anyone can do is pick there poison and hope its painless.
@cheapshotbob the only thing stupider than Trump is someone who believes all his lying bullshit. Congratulations on being in contention to win that award!
@cheapshotbob so does trump-he wandered off air force 1, forgot how to spell his wife's name, he constently losing his train of thought... he wanted to order a missile strike the middle east due to attacks... in the past. but i agree.
You know the cheques were provided by Congress, right? And re-opening the economy too soon has meant 1,000 Americans are dying every day.
He had very little to do with the checks, and is our ecenomy, wheres its opened been successful? 2 weeks later tremendous surges started, nearly 40 million dont have jobs, the stock market boom isn't a recovery, its better off people buying stocks, not much else. This man knows nothing about leading. Even those bogus excutive orders he signed didn't do anything but say every thing had to be paid back in Jan.
Booming for the 1% and fucked for everyone else.
@msc545 What country are you in? The US economy is booming across class lines. Before the pandemic hit, unemployment was at 50 year lows and the lowest recorded for minority groups. We've experienced the fastest recovery from the pandemic caused recession and don't even have our economy totally opened up yet! You are either ignorant of reality or just looking for something to blame on Trump.
And the air and water is again becoming toxic!
Are you familiar with the term "McJobs" ?
@msc545 You can't have the lowest unemployment the country has seen and not have a good economy for the 99%. You cannot reduce taxes to a greater degree for every one but the 1% and not have it benefit the 99%. Its like you people don't even think before speaking.
@hellionthesagereborn Do you know the term "McJob" ? Itr describes a shitty low paying job that pays so low you can't live on what you make. Wake up!
@hellionthesagereborn The only people that got a meaningful tax reduction due to Dump are the 1% and large corporations.
@msc545 Except that isn't true. The middle class got a 10% reduction, the poor because they don't pay tax to begin with didn't get any, and the upper middle class got like 1% and every one above that got nothing. Also over 90% of the American population got a tax cut so clearly even if we made believed that it was the rich who got it instead of the rich being the only ones who didn't, you would still have the overwhelming majority of people benefititing from it. Also you would have to ignore the fact that because of those tax cuts we have seen over 3% increase in wages as a result which again, is the average wages i. e. the majority of people. So yeah, you are incorrect. You should really do some research before making claims (instead of parroting what your thought leaders tell you to say).
@hellionthesagereborn Nobody but the 1% and the large corporations benefited from the tax cut.
@msc545 I already pointed out that this wasn't the case though? Oh, okay, your trolling, thats why you you refuse to actually respond with anything other then the most half assed response. Should have realized that.
You know we are a country of immigrants right?
At least bush had empathy to a degree
@Agape93 very true.
@1truekhaleesi @Agape93Are you serious? Are you aware of how many more people Bush slaughtered than Trump did? Trump has conducted a few drone strikes in Lebanon and Syria (still unforgivable), but Bush literally started the Iraq War and set the precedent for escalated intervention in the Middle East--and it was all based on a lie, to boot. That alone should make Trump faaar preferable to Bush. However much you hate Trump, or think he's mean, or whatever, I just can't see how you could in good faith prefer Bush. You should both be ashamed of yourselves...
At least bush has morals and ethics, trump doesn’t. He throws more kids into cages, instead of stopping that barbaric practice. He’s fucked the American pandemic response which got over 160,000 Americans killed and dozens of millions out of work. He’s bragged about sexual assault, hung out with known child sex traffickers and pedophiles and so on. I’d rather take another 8 years of bush than another 4 of trump.
So, kindly, go fuck yourself.
@Agape93 As much as I hate to defend Trump, what kind of "morals" and "ethics" does someone have to have to slaughter brown kids in the Middle East for profit? And sure, Trump throws kids into cages, but so did every president before him, and if I have to choose I'd rather have them in cages than dead. Bush threw just as many kids in cages as Trump but murdered thousands of them *too*. Trump has zero dominion over the coronavirus response. Only governors do. All Trump can do is get on T. V. and talk about the situation. Even if you think some of the deaths are attributable to him "downplaying the seriousness of the virus" in the interviews he's done, it's sure as hell not all 160,000 of them. And even if he was responsible for every last one of those deaths, Bush is responsible for up to FOUR TIMES MORE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_WarI only recall Trump bragging about consensual sex. As for having ties to Epstein and Maxwell, I do find that concerning, but we don't have damning evidence yet.
Hon, bush went in there because of 1. Oil and 2. He was lied to, I believe by Cheney, that they had weapons of mass destruction. Hon, those kids have died, been abused and have been raped by their jailers. Also no, most presidents didn’t throw children into cages. Again, hon, when he’s selling our ppe to China, calling it a hoax at rallies, decrying social distancing, promoting fake cures, urging the government to reopen early etc. so yes, he fucking failed it. Hon, that’s war. This is a domestic pandemic response that killed over 160,000 American citizens. Really? So him talking about not waiting before kissing women? Or just grabbing them by the pussy? That’s sexual assault. Hon he’s on camera with them, trump has praised them both openly and even recently with maxwell. He’s been accused for decades by CHILDREN, that he has raped them at parties attended to by him and Epstein. The fact that you’re finding that “concerning” only, is fucking disgusting.
@Agape93 All of the facilities Trump has used to enforce his border control policies were constructed and used during the Obama administration. So my earlier statement that Bush enacted the same policies was inaccurate, but he still conducted as many deportations as any president. Plus, my point still stands that murdering children is far worse than temporarily housing them in less-than-ideal conditions before either releasing them or deporting them. Yes, Trump has been skeptical of the seriousness of the virus. But it's still just words, not policies. This is simply not within his jurisdiction. No, the pandemic response has not killed anywhere near 160,000 people. There is not a single policy we could've enacted that would've resulted in zero deaths. Even if we locked people in their homes until some of them starved to death, some covid deaths would still slip through the cracks (and then of course we would have starvation deaths too). At most, a very tiny fraction of the total deaths can be attributable to the pandemic response. And whatever that number is, I 100% guarantee you that it is less than 650,000. Oh, but those deaths are magically okay because it happened during "wartime". Got it. Stop with the pearl-clutching. Don't act like you don't know anything about human sexuality or how men (and sometimes women) talk with each other in private. Trumps remarks, albeit very crude, did not suggest lack of consent, but merely sexual assertiveness. Statements like those just don't hold up as evidence for sexual assault, and we have yet to see any other forms of evidence despite rigorous investigation. Ultimately, what this comes down to is that I fundamentally believe in the presumption of innocence as a standard for legal proceedings. If you don't, then I guess we're at an impass.
@ShortCircuit "less than ideal" Lol. Just own up to it and admit the children are being torn from their families and kept in dog cages.
Um... that's exactly what I did? Where did I deny it? They aren't good conditions. I hate the policy. Ideally we should have open borders. Doesn't change the fact that slaughtering children is far worse than temporarily holding them, no matter what the conditions are. How can you possibly argue against that?
@ShortCircuit you severely downplayed the conditions. It's not a competition to see which president is worse. Trump is a terrible person with no empathy or intelligence. End of story..
If it's not a competition then why did you bring up Bush? You're the one that initially made the remark that Trump has somehow made you more appreciative of a psychopathic war criminal and mass-murderer, and I couldn't just not correct it. One of them is clearly worse, and it needs to be said.
@ShortCircuit at least he handled a pandemic better instead of killing 172,000 Americans and blaming others.
So now you're comparing Covid-19 to Ebola, or the Swine Flue, or whatever you're referring to? I thought Covid-19 was the armageddon and beyond compare to anything the world has ever seen.And as for Trump (or anyone, for that matter) being responsible for all of those deaths, please refer to my conversation with Agape93, because I don't feel like repeating it for the third time.
@ShortCircuit Trump had the choice to do better but didn't. Every other country has proved that because they're doing exponentially better than the US.
@ShortCircuit let's not forget about Trump's good friends the Epstein's and the rape case involving the 13 year old
No, actually he didn't. He doesn't have the authority to override governors' decisions on their states' reopening policies. But that's off topic anyway. Please just explain to me how 172,000 deaths (all but very few of which were unavoidable) is worse than 650,000 deaths (100% of which were completely unavoidable).
Wow, you really haven't bothered to read a damn thing in this thread, have you? I've already addressed that.
@ShortCircuit Trump didn't allow healthcare workers to access the federal stockpile of PPE. I take care of covid-19 patients and I used the same N-95 for two weeks. How am I supposed to care for others when I can get sick myself? Now back to the Epstein's.
@ShortCircuit that's just one example. You can use Google right? I'm going to take a nap.
You keep going off topic. Just answer my question. How is 172k unavoidable deaths worse than 650k avoidable deaths? How?
You're absolutely right. It is just one example. But when the example is over half a million people being needlessly killed, nothing else matters one iota by comparison.
@ShortCircuit Do keep in mind that it was Trump who nominated Bolton as National Security Advisor, the same Neo-Con war criminal that helped Bush perform those actions. You could argue that Trump's abject stupidity and pettiness ultimately caused a separation from a malicious influence on his administration, but don't go ahead pretending that Trump has more of a heart for 3rd world citizens. If he had been president in a post 911 world, I shutter to think what his knee jerk response would have been.
@Derekk same here. That's a dark thought I don't want.