Um I’ve never heard a woman called an asshole... I’ve seen and called men bitches... also bitch is a female dog what’s the difference
@VanillaSalt: Well, women do get called "assholes" at times, but that's not a gender slur. When men call each other bitches, it's very rarely a gender slur towards the man.
Who cares? An insults an insult either you get over it or you cave to the insult and make yourself look like... less
@VanillaSalt: You cared enough to reply to me.
No who cares about the insult not who cares about the question... this and that are two different things
@VanillaSalt: I'm saying, you're the one that replied to me about the insult, so apparently you care. The question I answered was about why gender slurs existed against women, but not men. I gave a detailed answer explaining why. You responded by saying that you've called men bitches before. I'm like, ok, sure, but towards men, it's not a gender slur, it's a general insult. Then, you asked "who cares." Apparently, you care sweety. If you didn't care, you wouldn't waste your time trying to explain to me that you've called men bitches before. Do you understand now?
Again who cares if they call you a bitch a cunt a dick an asshole... their all insults... what matters is how they mean it if their being dicks then their dicks regardless what they said.Mines a response to the original question while arguing your response. Understand sweetheart?
@VanillaSalt: I don't care. I'm just answering the question. In other words, I am just explaining "why." I'm not trying to decide whether or not people should actually be offended by these insults. My question to you is do you care? If not, then why did you reply to me in the first place? What did you hope to accomplish with your comment towards me?
what I’m trying to accomplish is answered by this question. Do you care you were called a bitch or do you care you were insulted? This matters in response to the original question.
@VanillaSalt: I really don't care too much about insults. Very rarely do insults bother me, whether they're gender slurred or not. The only thing that I really cared about was giving @Countryprinces an answer to her question. Does that help you accomplish what you need to?
It definitely does. Now everyone on this take will read our comments and hopefully look at this issue with both sides in mind. Thanks.
Yep. Especially anything you say that insinuates he’s feminine, like a woman, or not manly and they go absolutely apeshit.
So what the fucking point? Your a cunt in my eyes ima pussy in yours were both being fucking stupid and pissed... if people called the fuck down and stopped replying to every insult maybe every woman wouldn’t be a bitch and every man wouldn’t be an asshole...
@destrosio The ramifications of this study are clear when women obtain power. As soon as women rose to peak political power in Scandinavia and Europe they immediately crusaded and criminalized speech they see as "hateful". Women in political power is a very, very, dangerous thing.
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True. But trying to twist it in a way that that's actually anti-female instead of anti-male is just... baffling and hilarious. It's only considered "female" because it's not acceptable for men, not the other way around.You're pretending like it's not acceptable for men because it's female. Wrong. There are certain things which woman are allowed to be, and men get shamed for. And because this results in mostly only women being like that, it's considered "female", and it SOUNDS as if the men are getting shamed for behaving in a "female" way.In reality, all this is is a mutilation of the humanity and soul of males, of their freedom, of the feelings they get to experience and express, of the things they're allowed to like and do. But you're twisting it so it's all about you. Gotta love it.
I think it’s both anti-female and anti-male. The only way that calling a man names that compare him to the feminine is if those people think that the feminine is a bad thing for men to be. And they do because these insults imply the insult of weakness.
Men should be able to be themselves and express themselves without being shamed for being “feminine like.” But unfortunately there’s a push against me to be anything remotely feminine. And I’m here to say that push is wrong.
Push against men *
That's because it's incongruent with his assigned gender roles, not because femininity is somehow bad. It's the same for girls who get called butches and dykes for being masculine. It's relative, not absolute.
As if being incongruent with assigned gender roles is a bad thing.
@MzAsh Oh no, I totally agree! Gender roles are unnecessarily restrictive. I'm only describing the situation as is, not as it should be.
I see. I suppose I have suspicions that parts of our society might still view femininity as weaker or somehow lesser than masculinity, judging by the language and context they use. Then they wonder why feminist women want to stray from it.
Because feminists are insane... old feminism is one thing but these new fuckers are a different breed
Many are, but I can understand why they want to abandon femininity. It’s not rewarded in our society as it should be.
I'm not sure what you mean by femininity not being rewarded in today's society. I only see that coming from feminists who want to push for androgyny.
I think she’s saying abandoning it should be rewarded... I disagree. Why should women want more? Their role is support. It’s always been support. Why do they want to lead things now. Their sudden change has upset everything and made life difficult for a lot of people... this In itself isn’t bad but they put down anyone that they don’t agree with including all men and women that are old fashioned in their beliefs... too much time trying to convince women to think they need to be the same as men and not enough time to convince people they should be able to.
What’s in it for women when they play by everyone else’s rules? I personally got sick of everyone trying to take advantage of my support. We can’t trust anyone to treat us right when we’re submissive like some want us to be. Look at things used to be: shitty. Women used to not have as many rights and opportunities as men. Abuse was more common and swept under the rug. Unacceptable. Now I don’t like to think I’ve really abandoned my femininity all together. I trust my husband to do right by me to be vulnerable. I support him BUT he supports me too, which is essential. However, I had to have a fierce and discriminating strategy to get there. I have learned that I shouldn’t apologize for the nature in me that society deems more masculine personality: things like independence, confidence, courage, providing financially. I have multiple jobs and I love working and earning money way more than I like things like cooking, (which I believe is an adult responsibility, not a gender role).I love having the freedom to do as I please and live by my own rules.
My women have never been mistreated. A real man protects a woman from harm and shame. There was a story about a woman accosted on a train and 2 men left her and didn’t help. She didn’t blame the accosted she blamed the men that left her. If I am expected by you and society to protect you... what’s in it for me? My life on the line for what? I will always come to the defense of women but you shouldn’t expect men to act this way if you want to act strong. Right now especially with people locked up and covid everywhere online ratings the only real human interaction the 2 sexes get. Besides this it’s the media pushing feminism and negativity. But here take this video and start about 5 mins in and watch a couple minutes of it please...https://youtu.be/7LZlIoY1Id8And understand what men deal with online. All female to male interaction is negative these days.On top of that the relationships are skewed now. Women are the ones that really want the relationship. Men are happy being bachelors. What men need and want from the relationship is support and if a woman’s not providing that why should we settle? What’s more the current feminism is putting down any woman that’s femininity goes against their view and it’s corrupting them all. Men are becoming more happy not getting involved with women because of this move. Do you really like that. What are we supposed to do just accept this change that completely benefits some women at the cost of some women and most men?As long as men are being beaten on by women so harshly and the law exists only for women this won’t change.
What you’re saying just isn’t very congruent with what I’ve experienced. Guys like better bachelor are trying to tip the scale back in men’s favor and if that’s the goal then yeah, you’re better off just not getting involved with women because we certainly don’t want that.
There are much better dating coaches to listen to. I did a MyTake on it. That red pill male centric crap is for the birds.
I was talking about the online part of it bb is a dick... I’ve been on dating apps for a while. The best conv I have had was arguing blm with some girl lmao. That’s literally my only tinder match. I don’t think I’m particularly ugly but yet I don’t get given the chance to prove my worth. Then I see stuff like this on YouTube. I see women crying about not being able to find a good man. yet they choose men like that? Maybe women need to lower their standards a bit and stop screaming fuck men... kill all men... and shit like that. And men should man the fuck upAsh let me ask you... if you were being beaten would you expect me to jump in and help you?
I haven’t done the online dating thing in a long time, but back then it wasn’t what it is now. However, from what I can see, if I were in this current dating market, I’d sign up for a paid service to find men more invested in egalitarian relationships rather than shallow idiots trying to get laid with no effort. Women don’t need to lower their standards. If anything, they need to raise their standards for how men think and act rather than going for men with good looks and money. Sure those things are nice but any asshole can have good looks and money - it doesn’t ensure he’s not a narcissistic, womanizing dirt bag though. Women need to start being more strict about a man’s mindset, habits, loyalty, support, etc. To answer your question, if I was being beaten, I wouldn’t expect anyone to jump in but I’d greatly appreciate help in any way, even if they just called the police. Regardless, women would be wise to learn self defense tactics because it’s not guaranteed that someone else is always going to be around.
Have you tried a paid service for dating?
I paid for tinder... don’t do that it’s useless lmao.. I had a paid PoF account then covid hit as I got a pretty interesting match. Considered match but from my experience with PoF and tinder I’m not sure I wanna drop $50/mo on it especially with covid out.Ever since I moved out into the country the quality of women have gone up in looks and personality lol. Hey covids the ultimate cock block. Between it, my job, and my last relationship ending 2 1/2 years ago I need an easy lay hahahaWell ya you’d want the help. And most people would be upset if they didn’t get it. But what do I get out of helping? The worlds just not kind enough anymore to risk my life for a thank you. mind you ide still help if I saw such a thing. But it’s just not good enough for me to be considered equals but you get special treatment like I ask you out. I pay for dates. I act chivalrous. And what do you do in return? I love doing something to make people happy. So a thank you and a smile is enough for me holding the door open. For catching you when you fall. Mind you I’ve got 10 years of relationship under my belt and yet I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen gratitude from women. It’s expected so it’s nothing special. I think the way people think these days is the reason why society sucks so much. Women are not less than for playing a support role. He shouldn’t want her to support him because it’s wrong. But she should want to support him because it’s right.
She said "hit as hard". I'm sure a face to the floor hits harder than any word.
The fuck... Pretty girls are always taken...
Lmao ik u were talking about my username probably, but I'm not actually taken, sadly 😔
Oh, Mind giving me a follow?
Sure, I don't mind
And those people have a surprising lack of empathy too.
@UncleJessieRabbit : When some evildoer gets his comeuppance, they bitch. When someone innocent gets hurt, they laugh. When there's even a little gray area, they condemn the least guilty party, and pardon the most guilty. They're Dark Triads.
Yeah but her point is, it's not considered nearly as bad when it's done to men, therefore less bad things happen to men, therefore women have it worse.For example, it's considered way less horrible to cut off a man's arm than a woman's, therefore the woman has it way, way worse and it's way more fucked up.
@hurzwurzen I have never called a woman a nasty name unprovoked. But I’ve been called a “creep” for nothing more than the great sin of a woman not liking me. It may not be “considered” nearly as bad but an insult is an insult. If I return fire on a woman in self defense I don’t feel sorry for her.
Lmao! You guys don't get treated more harsh, give me a fucking break. You get called a name, then everyone moves on. You call a girl a slut and now she is shunned by society
@Julietchicago agree but call a guy a little bitch, wimp , sissy or a small dick faggot and his social life also dating life is over
@Julietchicago if I call a girl a slut her friends will go nuclear even if he’s just defending myself. But if a girl is verbally assaulting a guy she gets a pass because “she’s upset” and “he probably deserves it”. Despite the fact some women are bullying cunts and instigated the entire thing. In many cases a guy can’t even hit a woman back (without severe repercussions) despite her being the one that started the physical altercation. This is been done to me twice in my life. It’s disgusting double standard bullshit. As for calling a guy a name and “nobody cares”. Yeah he might not show it but he definitely fucking heard it. You don’t think guys get hurt by that? Think again. We just internalize it because we don’t get the leeway to go around telling people how upset we are. You wonder why many guys are so bitter and pissed off well this a big contributing factor.
Oh really? Because when I was called a slut by a guy, the whole town treated me like shit. Girls hated me and guys tried to get sex from me. So at least you didn't have the whole town throwing pitchforks at you And my dad has hit a woman to defend himself and she went to jail, he didn't
@Julietchicago well that’s your experience and I’m sorry that guy called you a “slut”. How long ago was this? From what I’ve seen the word “slut” is much less common in the American vernacular vs. 20+ years ago. The word “creep” though is used all the the time. I remember reading some feminist moron’s article trying to justify it since it “reflects how a woman feels”’. Bullshit. No guy should be called that if didn’t do anything. The word literally means “a person who is inclined to rape”’. Besides calling a guy a “pedo” that is one of the worst insults you can say.
@Julietchicago "shunned by society" sounds like quite a stretch. Sounds more like your own insecurity making that word trigger a sense of self-loathing that feels equivalent to being shunned by society
@Julietchicago A. Settle down, there were no "pitchforks." B. I'm thinking there's more to the story than you just being called a slut. Every girl gets called a slut and most of the time for no good reason and nobody takes it seriously--unless there's a plausible backstory to it.
@DonCachondo can you seriously remember the last time a girl has been called a “slut” out loud by another guy? I can count the times on one hand in the last 15 years I’ve heard a guy call a girl that. I did hear it often in HS and a few random times in college. But after college almost never.
I have question for you.
@DonCachondo no asshole, I already told you how people treated me. You just enjoy victim blaming when the victim is a woman bc it fills your mysogynistic narrative
@DonCachondo I was called a slut bc at 16 years old, I was seeing a 25 yo man. I found out he had a girlfriend so I told her about the affair. He went ballistic and threatened to destroy my life and he pretty much told everyone I was a whore and they took his side. Guys on this site will probably take his side too bc they love bashing women, even if it's statutory rape
@bluetoblack99 oh right, because you never heard it means it doesn't exist!
We have a winner. Women ract more emotionally so the association to these words are stronger.
Nah it's just we don't care, insults like that are for when you don't have the intelligence to truly insult some one.
Insecurity. They're afraid of others judging them the way they would judge themselves, or even others, for the same thing.
Punk ass pussy wanna be fuckin but can't weak limp dick lickin bitch... 🥵 Like that? lol
You got it!
VanillaSalt.. If we only lived in a perfect world and had flawless skin and perfect relationships with everyone we ever knew... Then men wouldn't be assholes and women wouldn't be bitches.. or as you put it... Cunts... I just callz-em like I seez-em. Guys just get made when I do.. cuz they know that shit is true.. and whatever they want to call me.. 🤷♀️ I don't have to feel salty cuz they just mad... Lol