*they're victims*used to and no longer is
Well said, thanks for the detail and actual research, we need more of that on this site.
You don't get to destroy the county and throw temper tantrums like little spoiled brats because you didn't get your way. This answer is exactly what's wrong with the world. "Someone didn't kiss my ass today, so that makes it okay to destroy other people's property and literally eliminate the entire police force." This all started because the media manipulated useful idiots into thinking a man accidentally being killed by a bad cop means ALL COPS ARE BAD." Furthermore, George Floyd got almost immediate justice for what happened to him (to the point there probably was no fair trial), and people STILL looted and rioted. So no, your "just give us what we want" terrorist-like answer holds no water when everything you could've possibly wanted, you GOT, yet it wasn't good enough. It's pathetic this is what actual "adults" now think and behave like.
@MCheetah Boy do I have news for you. 1.) People have literally looted and rioted all throughout history. It’s proven countless times throughout history that it is an effective means of protest. The United States was literally founded on rebellion and riots. You think the U. S. got independence from the British by asking nicely? All throughout American History violence and the destruction of property have been used as a form of protest. If you need an example: the Boston Tea Party. They literally caused millions of dollars worth of property damage as a form of protest.2.) We aren’t protesting because we simply aren’t getting our way. We’re protesting because we’re being brutalized and murdered without consequence by people who are supposed to protect us and our paid for by our taxes. If I started beating you and murdering your family and friends without consequences you’d be pretty upset too.3.) There are some people asking to abolish the police, but they are a minority. The majority recognize the need for some form of law enforcement. We want to defund the police, not abolish it. The police get billions of dollars every year, and yet they brutalize and murder people, it’s been proven that the police force is full of white supremacists and racists, they are incentivized into making more arrest, they have poor communication between precincts, and have a habit of mishandling and even harming people with disabilities. By defunding the police the money could be better spent on programs that could actually help people and reduce crime.
@MCheetah4.) ACAB does not mean that all cops are awful people. ACAB is bit deeper than that. We say that All Cops Are Bad because the system actively encourages corrupt behavior and punishes those who take action against it. The police force has a gang mentality, and so their main goal is to protect their own. The corruption runs deep, and officers will cover stuff up and protect other officers that break the law and harm people. Officers who take a stand against the corruption are usually fired. My aunt was a cop and as a child she would regularly tell us stories of how other officers would beat up suspects in interrogation rooms and plant drugs on people. Ironically she ended up in an altercation on one of her days off and was arrested and brutalized by police and then fired when she tried to take legal action against the officers that beat her. The system encourages corruption. It encourages bad cops and fires good cops. And even those that aren’t brutalizing people and aren’t speaking out against corruption are still complacent. That makes them Bad cops as well.5.) This isn’t just about George Floyd. What about all the other victims of police police brutality whose offenders were never punished. Breonna Taylor is the perfect example. I’m pretty sure it’s been over a 150 days since her murder and there still have been no repercussions, and at one point the police even tried to pin the murder on her boyfriend. Or what about Ahmaud Arbery. He was hunted in the streets and it took months for his killers to be arrested and they were only arrested because his story went viral online. What about all the other people that never got justice. Perhaps you could just like maybe read a fucking history book and maybe like go to therapy or like a workshop or something to learn some compassion and empathy and sympathy for other people.
"People have literally looted and rioted all throughout history."This doesn't mean every riot and protest is justified or deserves change because of it. I really hope you're not implying that."We aren’t protesting because we simply aren’t getting our way."I'm black and grew up in the sh*ttiest part of West Philly. Look up Lancaster Avenue if you doubt me. I *gurantee* you your family grew up with more money than mine. So don't try to bullsh*t me. NO ONE is "brutalized and murdered without consequence" in 2020 America. If you were, you wouldn't have time to whine about it on GaG. You seriously think being on social media in 2020 is like living in Jim Crow America? Your delusions of grandeur won't work here.
@MCheetah dude I’m from philly. I’m literally from the same place as you. And omg you’re black? This is even more ridiculous. Listen, you do you. Be safe out here in these streets.
(cont.)"There are some people asking to abolish the police, but they are a minority"They LITERALLY turned Seattle into Mad Max, ruled over by a warlord. We all know they, and BLM in general, are a minority. They are a LOUD stupid minority, though."We want to defund the police, not abolish it."If you can't make the distinction between the two, I can't help you. What do you think police departments run on, Trump donations and "racism"?And although you didn't make a point of it, I'd like to point out that "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar." All BLM, since 2014-2015, has ever done is just attacked white people, especially straight white men. And then after all that BS, you actually expect the majority of people to be on their side? To insult and talk down to their "supposed oppressors" (which ANY people who actually were oppressed, would've been boot stomped out of existence, if this narrative held any truth to it) and then ask them to roll over and give them what they want? There's a reason why Martin Luther King Jr succeeded and changed history and Malcolm X failed. People respond better to love and peace than violence, legitimate racism (against whites) and hatred. This isn't rocket science; it's basic common sense. BLM just want power for no reason. Just like modern feminism and all other social justice movements. They also try to exploit people's morality and good intentions to do so, as well. That's why so many BLM'ers got ass-hurt when people started saying "All Lives Matter." Any SMART leaders would've taken that and ran with it, getting people on their side. That is, if they actually believed the BS they put out there about "stopping police brutality and saving black lives." Why can't people see the difference between an idea and an ideology? I mean, this is a rhetorical question, I already addressed why people join this cult to begin with: fear, insecurity, laziness, and entitlement.
(Cont.)"We say that All Cops Are Bad because the system actively encourages corrupt behavior and punishes those who take action against it."Nah, don't try to bullsh*t a bullsh*tter. It means exactly that. There's no nuance to it. That's a bad attempt at spin, there." This isn’t just about George Floyd. What about all the other victims of police police brutality whose offenders were never punished."Wow, all seven of them in a country of 350 million. Again, a SMART leader of BLM could've expanded this idea into "the greater good" and not tried to gatekeep it as a "black only" thing (cause it's not). But as I said, they don't give two sh*ts about "police brutality." They just want to exploit insecure black people as useful idiots to make them rich. Which Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi have very clearly done, leveraging black fear into millions of dollars for themselves. Oh, the irony..."Perhaps you could just like maybe read a history book and maybe like go to therapy or like a workshop or something to learn some compassion and empathy and sympathy for other people."This is called projection. Literally all far left cultists have it. I'm not responding to this to help you, though. You're too far indoctrinated. This is for all the passerbys who read this. But yeah, funny ending there. "Read a book and learn some history." Coming from a 20 year old who follows a hate cult. My head is exploding from the irony! Thanks for responding, though. You've demonstrated to the world why the logic behind BLM is so foolish and laughable.
@Cherokeehp- “listen to the protestors”? Huh? Listen to the burned out wreckages of people’s entire life’s work on a business taken from them by the protestors? Listen to that , because... why? You don’t know jack about this topic, you should try getting some accurate news reports, you’ll understand how epically absurd your reply was... lol
"dude I’m from philly. I’m literally from the same place as you. And omg you’re black?"Which only supports my arguments. If BLM was as clear Black and White (no pun intended) as you claim, we'd be on the same side, then. Also, the assumption that I wouldn't be black to say what I'm saying shows just how closed-minded you are to this. You've already been told what to think and believe, which leaves no room for different interpretations. That's kinda the whole point of cults, though. To not think for yourself or question the narrative. To just follow and obey.Again, the issue here is people can't separate ideas (treat everyone with respect, regardless of race, sexuality, and gender) from dangerous cult-like ideologies (eliminate the police, loot, riot, and break sh*t, get rid of Trump by any means necessary, control and intimidate whites into submission, etc). I am all for less (ideally NO) police brutality. But again, this isn't a "black issue." And furthermore, if BLM was all about "ending police brutality," they'd be uniting people, not trying to cause race riots against white conservatives and gatekeeping victimhood. Maybe you should try looking this up and see how much BLM gives a sh*t about "police victims who aren't black."en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond
Wrong on so many points. ACAB stands for "All Cops are Bastards." Which is fucking hilarious considering the definition: in the 1960's single parenthood rate among blacks was 20% and now its 70%. Calling someone a bastard when you have no idea who your father is... comedy gold. And have you heard what the goal of these riots are? What law they want changed, sdded, or removed? What statistical average we need to aim for? Of course not, because these idiots dont even know what they're rioting for. There is no finish line, this all is literally just a plan to destabilize America so the Deepstate can clamp its controlling jaws shut on the populace.
It would be great if cops actually did profile people and shoot them because then we'd have no gang members and terrorists left and the country would be literally perfect. But sadly cops aren't allowed to shoot these gang members on sight and instead have to wait until they inevitably shoot at them first, putting them in danger. Everyone who participated in these riots, everyone who glorified the riots, including you, should be put to death immediately and you will answer to the almighty for what you've done sooner or later and you damn well know it.
If you say so.
@Cherokeehp Oh boo hoo the police are racist. Go back to your safe space. More white people were killed last year.
Throwing money at black people won't make their problems go away. The problem is with the black culture and their gang ideals. Give the money to police so they can buy more military equipment to kill the rioters.
@Jack9949 What safe space. And why are you saying “boo boo” as if a racist police force is just a minor inconvenience. It literally straight up demolishes people’s lives.
@ManHater You realize a lot of people get sucked into gang culture because when you’re born into poverty and there are no systems and programs in place to help you get out of poverty, then you’re more likely to turn to crime. It’s literally a proven that education is a key factor in reducing crimes. Typically the areas with the most crime have the lowest funding for education.
And we've tried throwing money at these schools and watched the problem get worse. Also, what impoverished black area are you talking about that doesn't recieve government assistance? Blacks are given MORE government assistance than anyone else. No Country has taken more steps to help its minorities, i challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary.
@Cherokeehp Wow. You literally just missed my argument entirely. More white people are killed by police every year. Surely they must also then hate white people too? If that’s how your logic goes. 🤷♂️
@Jack9949 more white people get killed by police, because there are more white people in this country. But black people are killed at higher rates. Also, why are you ok with cops killing so many people? It’s their job to bring people into custody, not murder them in the street.
@Cherokeehp And thats what they usually do. But them you have thugs like George Floyd who refuse to get in police vehicles and others that go for knives (Jacob Blake) and fire tasers at cops (Rayshard Brooks). Stop making everything about race. Just look at things objectively. The only people I know who ever get in trouble with police (regardless of race) are literally all criminals.
Your last sentence that is such a good point it really is at the source of these issues
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What a complete load of lies and bullshit. You know damn well BLM and antifa who are Biden supporters are destroying the country right now so stop being an ignorant retard please and wake up before those lunatics burn your house down or job (if you even have one 🤣) and what crimes will trump be convicted of? Oh those conspiracy theory hoax ones yeah sure.
Don't tell me I "know" your far right fake news narrative. I'm aware of the bullshit you people try to push, yes, but I also know only a complete dumbass would believe it 😂😂
How are we dumbasses for believing facts? You literally dont have any proof of what you said any time a trump supporter did do something "violent" it was out of self defense. Seriously, wake the fuck up
You're dumbasses for thinking really stupid lies are facts 😂😂
So your telling me that BLM and antifa aren't destroying and rioting cities?
Correct. Who told you they were? Far right fake news, I'm guessing? Not sure why you deranged weirdos want it to be true so bad, but alright.
Are you actually that stupid? Show me one picture of trump supporters in maga hats and such burning down cities and rioting go ahead. And while your at it search up BLM and antifa on Google and see what you find. It helps to do your own research, that's how people like me know what's going on and we dont just sit in front of the tv mindlessly watching cnn which I'm guessing is what you meant by fake news.
I woild ask, but I already know your that stupid, because all you trump trash are, but a picture is real easy to stage. People who say "do your own research" only want people to stumble upon the same far right fake news sources that they were dumb and desperate enough to believe.
So you have nothing basically, ok I didn't think you would, you just have like a mental condition if you actually thought I was dumb enough to believe the bullshot you just spewed, it's amazing someone as dumb as you could survive for 40 years
Oh, I "have something," but not on this device. Feel free to do your own research, if looking at anything the far right fake news hasn't prepared for you to be as little threat to your dumb and fragile world view as possible doesn't cause you to spill frightened tears all over your ammunition, causing rust.
The democrats are responsible for these riots. They not only enable, but ENCOURAGE them. And racism against blacks is not rampant in this Country, that is a conspiracy theory with no basis in facts
@TienShenhan Show me democrats encouraging riots. Protests, yes, riots, no.As to racism, do you honestly think a black man could have walked up to police cars carrying a gun that was still warm from his shooting two people in their sight and not been arrested, if not shot?
@TienShenhan you’re joking right? Don’t play the game blame okay idiot? The reason that all of this is happening is because of the police brutality
@KingJared24 its based off the stat found on ucr. fbi. gov that says that black men are 2.5X more likely to be shot by police than whites. They conveniently ignore the other stats. Like the one that says that blacks commit 56% of all murders despite making up only 15% or less of the population. Its no fucking mystery why 200 blacks are shot by police a year when 2,600 black bodies get dropped by other blacks in one year. You idiots are getting played like 10 dollar banjos by the media who has been lying to you your Whole. Fucking. Life. Pull your heads out of your asses and quit making rapists and other criminals your heroes
@TienShenan 😱 when police brutality STOPS all that other stuff will stop. Good job for saying blah blah blah anything that has nothing to do with riots, looting, burning down buildings and taking down statues. Congratulations sir 😱
@TienShenan calm down before you hurt yourself Incredible Hulk 😂
@goaded Klamidia Harris: "the action in the streets is working, don't let up!" Skeletor finally gently scolded the rioters by saying "violence won't heal us." Too little too late following his months of silence on the matter, which was clearly due to the fact that he doesn't want to lose votes from the radical left. Then obviously you have democratic governors telling police not to engage, and releasing violent criminals back into fray after very little time in jail. Just ask Seattle cops who have arrested the same individuals up to 70 times. After 30 people were murdered in these peaceful, flame filled protests they still have the balls to say that the claims of riots are exagerrated. You fucking people are clueless, as long as its cops or Trumpers being killed you are fine with it, but the second a 17 year old defends himself from 3 armed criminals including a pedophile that isn't allowed to own the glock he was carrying, suddenly you're outraged, just like you're outraged when a violent criminal fleeing arrest when he has a warrant for sexual assault and a history of being violent with cops gets shot - your brains are fucking mush. The media has ruined you
@TienShenhan You're supposed to be 29? Anyway, the action in the streets she's talking about are the protests, not riots."After 30 people were murdered in these peaceful, flame filled protests"That's just a lie."as long as its cops or Trumpers being killed "Not happening. There was that right winger who shot three cops, killing two of them..."isn't allowed to own the glock he was carrying"Well, that would make two of them. Which one shot the other? Which one had already killed a man that evening? And I'm sure the kid looked up the police record of everyone before he shot them. Remember, they were chasing an armed "man" who had just shot and killed someone.Here's what Kamala Harris is talking about.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qki0izXLOK8(Note that most, but sadly not all, are wearing masks.)
@goaded so 32 people haven't been killed in these protests? Tell me the real number than instead of just calling it a lie. Go ahead. And who cares if those people are wearing masks? The CDC just released the REAL number of people who died with Covid being the only listed cause. Go check it yourself because if I tell you what the revised number is you'll just call it a lie
@KingJared24 police brutality can't stop in a Country filled with crime and murder. I'd love to see you attempt to regulate rapists and murderers without using a gun - you couldn't do better I promise. Your beliefs on the matter come from a place of emotion and ignorance.
@TienShenhan Impress me. Show me their names. I've seen a list of 20 people, but several of them were killed by right-wingers, or died in accidents.I see you've latched on to the Republican talking point of the day, that only 6% of people who died of covid-19 didn't list anything else in their death certificate. Unfortunately, that's been what the CDC has been saying since at least May (when it was 7%); the Republicans just this week decided to enthusiastically misinterpret the figure for propaganda purposes.Look for yourself (it's a weekly report).Today: www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htmMay: web.archive.org/.../index.htm
@TienShenhan As to "a Country filled with crime and murder", maybe better (not more, just better) policing could reduce that. The British police have been arresting rapists and murderers for centuries, generally without guns.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_Principles
@TienShenhan I bet you I can do better cause I won’t be trigger happy like these pathetic police officers... look at me in a way that I don’t like and I’ll just shoot you a bunch of times cause you looked like a threat. I would just put all rapists and murderers in prison for life and whatever happens to them in prison just happens. I’m done with this conversation well it’s not really a conversation cause you’re not really saying anything
@TienShenhan you want to talk about murderers? I’ll just take them to Burger King after they just got killing a bunch of innocent people. Oh man I really can’t do better than that. The age of every innocent person that was murdered is how long the murderer will be prison and there would be no getting bailed out by anybody. Okay now I’m done. Have a nice day!
@TienShenhan And why do you think black people commit so many murders compared to other races?
@Ad_Quid_Orator Culture. Gangsters are idolized, just listen to their music.
@TienShenhan Yeah, the culture argument is just a stand-in for the inferior genetics argument to shift responsibility on the disenfranchised. They're two sides of the same victim blaming coin.www.motherjones.com/.../
@Ad_Quid_Orator if a black man shoots his cousin in the face and runs off with his shoes, he isn't the fucking victim. Being impoverished is not an excuse to murder people, and you dont get to fucking blame whitey
@TienShenhan No but excessive lead exposure which is linked to violent behavior was 4 times as prevalent in black children than white ones in the 1990s (when people who are young adults now would have been impacted by it).
@Ad_Quid_Orator I dont care what their convenient excuse is, murderers, rapists, looters, arsonistsx and child molestors need enough hot lead exposure to disable or kill them completely. I dont care if they were forcefed lead paint, fluoride, and methamphetymines.
@TienShenhan Well hopefully if someone slips a drug in your food that induces violent behavior, they'll shoot your ass dead.
They'll need to if I start killing innocent people. Why would I get a free pass?
@TienShenhan If you attempt to hurt someone, they have the right to defend themselves. If you are arrested for it and they find out that you were drugged against your will by someone who slipped meth in your food, you're off the hook and their ass is grass.
You aren't responsible for what you do in a mentally compromised situation unless you willingly put yourself in that situation (i. e. drinking and driving).
@Ad_Quid_Orator bullshit, if your actions are ending or ruining lives then you need to be stopped by any means necessary, end of story
@TienShenhan Yeah, you can stop them by getting people the treatment that they need and turn them into a productive member of society.
@Ad_Quid_Orator let me know if that solution comes to mind when they're gang beating you for being white
@TienShenhan Let me know when you'll make an actual argument instead of regurgitating talking points.
Lol @Ad_Quid_Orator but you’ve never made Actual Arguments...
@Conspiracy_Theorist Yeah I did; that if you take mind altering substances against your will you shouldn't be held accountable for actions you took under its' influence.
@Ad_Quid_Orator I dont agree with your argument. Some people rape women while drunk but would never do it sober, but that doesn't mean they get to blame alcohol and get a free pass. The fact of willingly taking it or not is irrelevant. I was an abatement contractor for years, and abated lead so frequently that I had to get my blood tested after so many hours - sometimes my lead levels were super high and I had to take 30 days off - but I never killed anyone because of it. Just like no matter how often I got drunk I never raped anyone. I've known people to betray their friends easily while on meth and others that never did while on the same shit from the same dealer. A piece of shit is a piece of shit, and I dont think being high or toxified should give anyone a free pass to harm people. That is my argument
@TienShenhan Whether or not you put yourself in that situation is relevant; to turn your analogy around, if someone gives you a date rape drug you can still charge them with rape because you were unwillingly given a drug that altered your decision making process. If you willingly get drunk and consent to sex or rape someone, you are accountable because you made a decision to enter that state. As for your job as a contractor, you made a choice to work at that job but people don't chose to be raised in an apartment full of lead paint. Lead exposure increases the likelihood of violent behavior so that you didn't commit a crime when you were exposed to it isn't an argument.
@Ad_Quid_Orator it IS an argument. Just because I willingly abated the lead is irrelevant, because again, being intoxicated by lead never made me attack anyone. Why is that? None of my co-workers did either. And do you seriously think 2,600 dead blacks killed by other blacks can be blamed on lead exposure? Then explain why blacks are even MORE murderous in Africa, where they dont get to blame whitey for their child soldier programs, millions of slaves, and aids epidemic spread by rape and violence?
@TienShenhan The "argument" is an anecdote. 2,600 out of how many millions of black people in this country? And do you think there's a stronger causal relationship between culture or lead exposure and aggressive behavior?
@Ad_Quid_Orator out of 43 million. Keep in mind that these stats are only including cases with 1 perpetrator and 1 victim, so gang violence causes even more. I think blacks are more willing to kill than other races because they don't value life as much. Again, you can try to blame whitey, the government, lead exposure, impoverishment, redlining, whatever bullshit excuse you want to explain murder, but when you look at black people in their own lands, they are far worse than they are here. Go to Liberia and wear a shirt that says "It's okay to be white." Do that in the Congo. You'll get your limbs hacked off with a machete. They'll rape and kill your sister, cut her clitoris off and keep it in a wallet as a good luck charm. They might even cannibalize you. This is not an exaggeration. If it isn't culture, or lead, or redlining, then what causes this in Africa? You tell me please
@TienShenhan Oh the fact that black people are killing each other in their own lands is proof of their inherit savagery? Then what does the shit that was going down in Europe from 1914 to 1945 say about Europeans? How many died in those wars (hint, it's more than all who died in the post colonial wars in Africa combined)? And how would the culture argument apply to continental Africans and the diaspora? News flash: they had their culture taken away from them after being sold into slavery (you're just using inferior culture as an obvious stand in for inferior genetics). And 2,600 is less than.01% of the overall population so the disparity could easily be explained by lead exposure.
@goaded shut up terrorist you do not get to speak democrat!
Now, you could say what happened in Europe was a "long time ago" but violence in Africa is far less common than it was 1985-2005:https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace
@Ad_Quid_Orator looking back the graph you posted, it shows that lead levels in Americans has dramatically dropped, so why is crime gettting WORSE as lead levels drop?
@Ad_Quid_Orator and whos culture was taken away? Blacks were enslaving eachother before white people even existed!
@TienShenhan Because lead exposure impacts people most when they're children so there was a lag between decrease in lead and decrease in crime.
@Ad_Quid_Orator if your lead levels were high as a kid in 1985, you dont get to use that to excuse your murder habit in 2020
@TienShenhan No, because it's impossible to parse out but it is a reason to get people exposed treatment so they're less likely to commit murders.@TienShenhan And white people were enslaving other white people but while I condemn all forms of slavery, "chattel slavery" was virtually unheard of in Africa nor was being a "slave" anywhere near as bad as it was in the new world. I mean FFS slaves rose to become kings and emperors. Do you honestly just regurgitate talking points before doing even the most basic amount of research.
@Ad_Quid_Orator wtf? I've used plenty of personal experience in my argument, but you claim that I'm just parroting talking points. And impossible to parse out? You mean once your levels rise they dont lower? Its called eat food. Drink liquid. I've had lead levels so high that my joints felt like they had screws in them, headaches, and felt so weak that my max deadlift went down by 100 pounds and couldnt even do a set of 10. Here I am today, perfectly healthy and strong, still haven't killed anyone, burnt any buildings, raped any women or kids, or had to find an institution or demographic to blame for my actions. Must be my white privilege!
@TienShenhan Yeah, because people know how to treat lead exposure when they're children (when it's most likely to cause permanent neurological damage). So you were exposed at a time when you knew how to treat it because of your privilege of being less likely to be raised in a lead infested environment because of your race.
@Ad_Quid_Orator my grandparents lived in a poor black neighborhood, you know what they did? Left with nothing but the clothes on their back and found a better way of life. Their skin tone didn't account for that, decision-making did.
@TienShenhan Yeah and many black people born into poverty have achieved prosperity. The issue is that when you're subjected to lead poisoning, you're more likely act aggressively; not that it's an absolute rule that you will so your anecdotes aren't an argument.
And you don't know that "decision making did" for all you know luck also played a bigger role.
@Ad_Quid_Orator you're argument is seriously flawed. As I already pointed out, your graph tells us that as lead levels in the black community went down, the crime rate rose. This "lag time" argument you used doesn't work as it sits, and neither does the argument that I was privileged enough to know how to cleanse my toxicity because of my race. I had black co workers that got the same training and made the same wage, but even if you dont KNOW that eating and drinking rids your body of lead that doesn't matter. We're all human beings, we all eat, shit, and drink, so it's essentially just time that lowers your levels (like your graph shows.) I know you were thinking you were onto something when you linked lead toxicity to aggression and then lead levels to blacks - but at this point you just want to be right. Cognitive dissonance in the face of new information.
@TienShenhan Well because you're an ignoramus who can't handle information that conflicts with his world view (the culture causes the violence mythos), I'll spoon feed the information to you again. Exposure as a child increases the odds of violent behavior because even if the lead levels decrease in your body, at that stage of development it causes neurological damage that can affect you for the rest of your life (i. e. when you grow up hence the lag time).
@Ad_Quid_Orator the potential permanent affects of lead poisoning will leave you less likely to fight and kill, not more likely. It's like saying bodily pain and convulsions make you more likely to rob a gas station. I'm not buying it
@TienShenhan "looking back the graph you posted, it shows that lead levels in Americans has dramatically dropped, so why is crime gettting WORSE as lead levels drop? "Are you kidding? Crime rates have plummeted in the United States over the last 25 years.
@TienShenhan Because you were willfully ignorant that lead impacts you in other ways:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5703470/
@goaded wow genius, notice that his graph starts in the 60's and ends in 2007, and yours starts in the 90's?
@TienShenhan Yeah, for the third time, there's a lag because of how lead impacts people as a child.
@Ad_Quid_Orator and here I thought you had made up your own talking points. Can't say that I'm surprised that it's an idea that was planted in your head by the government. Correlation doesn't always imply causation, for example rising levels in autism holding hands with the rise in vaccinations, one piece of evidence alone isn't enough to assume a connection, is it?
@TienShenhan Because there's no causal mechanism between vaccines and autism but we've known for a long time that lead is a neurotoxin:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../
@TienShenhan I'm not a genius, you just make me look like one.You asked "why *is* crime gettting WORSE", it isn't. @Ad_Quid_Orator is right, the lead affects the development of childrens' minds, but it's when they're adults they commit the crimes; hence the delay.
@TienShenhan 😂😂 I can only laugh bc u sound and look like someone who Serves SATAN if only other hatred was so blatant I’m glad you don’t pretend to be a Christian I can’t stand when racist pretend to be one of us
@likelyOK Apparently lead exposure doesn't just make people aggressive LMAO.
@Ad_Quid_Orator lead exposure doesn't excuse murder, I dont care how irritable you are from being poisoned. Have you ever felt extremely angry and desired to be violent? Did you kill someone when you felt that way? If not, great job, its called personal accountability. Quit making excuses for thug behavior, and quit sucking dead gangster dick while demonizing the real heroes of this Country
@TienShenhan You're still not getting it. Yes, personal responsibility, great. But what we're talking about here is an increase in the number of people who are willing to hurt or kill other people, compared to non-poisoned communities. It's not an excuse for a particular murder, it's an explanation for why they are statistically more likely.
@goaded Exactly; reactionaries break everything down to either/or.
Then why are the "peaceful protests" the headline #1 all day on CNN and MSNBC?
Would your panties be wet if mobs of thugs showed up at your home, even if you weren’t there, like they did to Tucker Carlson? And “ mostly peaceful” protests mean looting, rioting, and arson, not on most, but on enough to ruin people’s lives, so the phrase itself, that you used, is absurd.
The racism system? I keep hearing about this elusive institution, but no one parroting this can seem to point out exactly where its at or how it functions
same here. I hope I aliens take me away on another earth like planet with my sexy perfect eve and live in peace. by the way throw a huge rock at earth at the samentime.
Oh, I totally forgot:I think the riots will get worse, no matter who gets elected in November.If Trump wins, there will be massive outrage and if Biden wins, the "peaceful protets" will run free.
So if that happens you are OK with it? You’re going to just kick back and let it happen all around you? I understand you just want to stay safe we all do but at some point people have to speak out against this absurdity and stop these anarchist from attacking our nation. I think you may be correct upon reelection there may be a bloodbath at which time law and order needs to be implemented whatever that means martial law or whatever it’s time we defend our nation
That’s exactly what I’m going to do. Why? Because I have a life to live and I don’t have to justify to you why I want to live my life with the least amount of complications as possible. If you want to do something about it then good for you, but don’t guilt trip people for trying to avoid that mess. I also live in the middle of nowhere and don’t plan to go anywhere near a city in the next year.
No, I’m saying good for you! Not everyone can live out in the boonies, andvthise who can do, and now more and more are following how smart you are, and heading for the ‘burbs... I’m not trying to guilt trip you, I jus5 want everyone who knows how, to fight back, and stop the insanity, it’s going to take every9ne to beat these assholes...
Crime is higher in states run by democrats
That could work but the constitution supporters will be angered once their rights have been suspended they'll start taking matters into their own hands and start forming guerrillas to fight for their rights even if the military opens up on unarmed civilians (like the Boston massacre in the 1700s) that'll be like a ticking bomb from another revolution
@Bismarck_96 You know I didn't mean it, right?
Eh aight Carry on m8
@Bismarck_96 Found the Neo-Nazi pig.
Oh yea I agree with u on that
They will get Worse, No matter who is in the Oval Office. xx
And if you reactionaries wonder why so many people would be driven to violence and plan on pulling the "what would MLK think?" line to discredit BLM, remember one thing:You martyred him too.