Indeed, in this President Trump deserves a bit of begrudging credit. He knew - and knows - his constituents. The likes of Mrs. Clinton were too busy pointing their noses in the air to look down and realize that Mr. Trump was tying their shoe laces together. Thus now the wailing and gnashing of teeth and reactions to the President rooted less in analysis than in aesthetics. In fact, Mr. Trump - good populist that he is - does not really have any consistent policy agenda. Rather, his is a mishmash of items picked from both sides. Thus tax cuts from the GOP side and prison sentencing reform from the "lib" side. Indeed, the Democrats should take care, the polling shows, irony of ironies, that Hispanic support for Trump is higher than the historical average of that demographic for GOP candidates generally. Bottom line, "libs" may find it hard to imagine that they are not the pivot around which the universe turns. However, Trump supporters, agree with them or not, have far deeper reasons for supporting the President than simply to antagonize them. As one look at the data - could they be bothered to look - would amply reveal.
P. S. Forgot to mention, was unable to vote in your poll as I am not a fan of President Trump and thus at this moment am an undecided voter. That said, former VP Biden is simply the Democrat version of Mr. Trump.Like the President, Mr. Biden offers a hodgepodge of disconnected and changing policies. He speaks in aggressive, vituperative and sometimes even coarse and vulgar language. Thus the differences between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden could be measured with a micrometer and Mr. Biden, should he win, will likely have no mandate to govern.That said, if it is possible to offend the questioner further, I lean this time toward Mr. Trump. If the choice is between the original and the imitation, in general it is best to lean toward the former. It may not be pleasing, but at least it will not lend itself to unanticipated surprises.
The Dem version of Trump? Really? Biden at worst is a pro politician working for his donors. But he doesn’t suffer from anti-intellectualism nor is there evidence of him illegal profiting over the presidency. .
Well, I speak here in general intellectual terms. To repeat, Mr. Biden's policies are, like Mr. Trump's, a mishmash of agendas drawn from both sides. For Medicare for all, except when he is not. For a ban on fracking, except when he is not, and so on.Temperamentally, Mr. Biden has used more than his fair share of vituperative language and vulgarities. Moreover, like Mr. Trump, he is legendary for grinding the language into a vague mush.As to profiting from government, take it up with Hunter Biden.Suffice to say, I make here a general observation. In the particulars they differ. Though in this case the differences in kind conduce only to differences in degree. They are essentially the same populist beasts - a symptom of their times.
Yes, politicians lie when campaigning. They try to appeal to the loud extremists and to the moderates. But there is stupid and then there’s Trump.
Yes, and epithets are not a substitute for analysis. You simply offer tropes and cliches and no real insight into the ideas the two men espouse let alone their commonalities.At any rate, even the lies matter as the public is apt to assume that they are stated in sincerity. That said, it is a peculiar defense of Mr. Biden to say that he lies - just like Mr. Trump. As to stupidity, take care not to underestimate your opponents. Mrs. Clinton assumed she was smarter than Mr. Trump - and has since spent much of the rest of her public life explaining why he is President and she is not.
Or do you not value the insights because you know it’s right. Not really a good reason to vote Biden. But there’s a good reason to vote anti-Trump.
Bald assertions do not reasoned assessments make. As I mentioned, as a practical matter, the differences between Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump could be measured with a micrometer. They are both fairly conventional populists at the most basic level.Mr. Biden, beyond that, may win. However, if he does, will have no mandate to do anything other than NOT be Donald Trump. Just by virtue of winning he will have accomplished that and then will likely find governing to be difficult if not problematic.The analogy is to Jimmy Carter. He - with his famous promise to "give you a government as good as the American people" - promised not to be Richard Nixon. This he accomplished and then found that when he wanted to take the country beyond that, he had no mandate to move a Democrat controlled Congress. Gridlock and double digit inflation and stagflation and foreign policy failures and all the rest to follow.It is that historical lesson that is well to keep in mind when judging between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden. The latter of whom may end up, by default. the plaything of political forces over which he has no influence.
For an intelligent fellow you seem oblivious to the havoc Trump is reckoning. His administration hasn’t even fully manned every department. There’s just a listlessness that’s apparent. Biden actually wants to govern. Trump just wants not to go to prison.
For an intelligent fellow, you seem to have difficulty separating cause and effect. I am no fan of Mr. Trump and am no fan of his habit of pouring salt in the social wounds - as I wrote in response to this question: Is Trump a good president? ↗However, the tumult of the period, while exacerbated by Mr. Trump, has hardly been caused by Mr. Trump. Indeed, we have seen this kind of social upheaval before. See my response here: What the hell is happening in the USA? ↗However, there is nothing in Mr. Biden's appeal to suggest that he would be any better. His language, like Trump, is vituperative and crude. (This is a man who, you may recall, threatened to punch a constituent who had the effrontery to disagree with him.) Moreover, Mr. Biden, to the extent that he has any consistent policy positions at all, has tended to support positions that would overturn much established practice - and indeed, his Hamlet like approach to the tumult in cities like Portland does not suggest that Biden's would be a steadying hand.Suffice to say, given their many similarities and weaknesses, I prefer the devil we do know to the devil we don't. Life being a series of imperfect choices, after all.
Who do you think is more anti-intellectual? Which one reads more?
Neither, frankly. Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are both fairly shallow and intellectually unimpressive. If you want an intellectually serious politician, try Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska. For their parts, though, Trump and Biden are fairly conventional politicians. A breed who get paid more for talking than reading. This making, I would add, Sasse the rare pearl of great price. When you find one like him - keep him. For a previous superb example - also from the other (D) party - the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan would be my calendar pin-up. As I say, a rare breed. Frankly, Trump and Biden are average at best, and singularly unremarkable.
What if employment and income could be traced passed Trump? Also, the Mid East ain’t simmering.
Simmering down? Means calming down. Places like Saudi Arabia and the UAE are starting to become more accepting of Israel.
There was simmering since Obama pulled us out of Iraq. But ask the Mid East population, nothing has “simmered down”.
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I’m not the one on an anon account, pussy.
Yeah, you're the dumb cunt who is pretending to be a man.
Ahh... you can’t hold an intellectual convo huh? Oh, well. Tell me I’m a cuck now.
I can hold an intellectual conversation just fine, but won't give that pleasure to someone who lies about their gender identity online to push her social agenda. I also assumed you were incapable of it considering the only response you could muster was that I was anon, the typical response from someone who's got nothing better.
You won’t get over that will you? I have a profile pic of my actual face and I’m not posting anon unlike some cucks I know.
Um, yeah, of course that's your face. You certainly didn't find a photo on the internet somewhere and edit it. Sure thing, sweetie. LOLOLOL
You’re adorable anonymous. Keep it ID free.
I'll reveal my ID when you get a pink account and post and actual photo of yourself, pink hair and all.
You’d still think I was lying. Just because you can’t argue ideas.
Oh, I can argue ideas just fine. I've always done quite well in debate, have two college degrees and have been very successful in business, especially given my age. I've started two businesses and have had no trouble convincing inventors to see things my way. Arguing ideas is a strength of mine, not a weakness.But I despise dishonesty, especially in the arena of gender politics today. You have come off as a lying sack of shit from your very first day on GAG, and you've reinforced that perception with pretty much every post you've made since then. You're a woman and a liar, at least here on GAG. And people as dishonest as you are online tend to be equally dishonest irl.But as a feminist, you're just living up to people's expectations of you, right? Doing what's expected of you. lol
His answer is yes, it is just owning libs. Everything else is just superfluous
@Archerer It’d be an honest answer at least.
The irony of you commenting on the honesty of someone else is rich.
Really? How about Trump voters spinning yarns to avoid saying they like bigotry
So you believe all Trump fan are bigots?
If you still support him after all he’s done, you’re making a choice.
You didn't answer my question.
If you choose Trump despite his bigotry, sexism and grift- it means you don’t care. I don't know if you’re a bigot but I know you dont care about it.
If you choose Biden despite his dementia, racism and sexism, shall we all assume you don't care?
Please show me how’s he’s racist. And it better be more evidence than what I have on Trump.
I asked for a few bullet points. What promises has he kept?
No cuts to social securityIncrease veteran health careRaise tariffs on imports to the USEnsure finding for historically black collegesRenegotiate NAFTA
Have you googled any of those? He wanted to cut Social Sec. Still does.Raising tariffs is over taxing our companies. China isn't paying that.And black univ are a bipartisan easy to glorify legislation.And NAFTA 2.0 was also bipartisan (actually more Dem than Repub)
You asked for a list and I provided the list. Was your intention to dispute any list that someone provided? This isn’t a debate, it’s just a gag question sir
You’re right. I just hope you research these things.
If only he’d become president for life, right?
That's why he has children. Ivanka or Don Jr can have there turn.
I mean, he retweeted a Trump supporter yelling "white power," at worst he is a racist, at best he is a fucking moron.I am not convinced he is racist, but he sure is sexist.
It is obvious trump supporters believe in him the same way people believe in jesus and god, zero good evidence, but will die serving him
And there is absolutely no argument, fact, or happenstance that would ever change their mind no matter what
Yet I want him to win again, as a non-american, I can't wait to see how badly he can fuck things up, sometimes you need to destroy something completely to re-build it correctly. Trump will be that destruction, and America needs it.
Can’t even answer huh?
When someone can't ask a proper question, they don't deserve a proper answer
Trump can’t speak a proper sentence, yet you think he’s a god.
I see you've never heard of Joe Biden."Yet you think he's a god"I've never in my life said that nor have I seven said I support him. You just continuously jump to the most ridiculous conclusions
I can smell trump voters.
I can't even vote for Trump xD I'm not American. Your nose is clearly broken
It smells your soul.
At least stay on topic
Will do. Are you in America? Lots of Brits love Trump.
Nope, I'm not British either
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