This has happened everywhere on Earth for 2 million years. What happened to them is not extraordinary. If you knew the history of this hemisphere, then you'd know that the cultures decimated by European colonization also decimated each other.Learn about "Mourning War' and the of the Native tribes wiped out by the Iroquois.Learn about thr cultures wiped out in the Arctic such as the Thule culture wiping out Dorset Culture.Learn about the human sacrifices of the Aztecs, Toltecs, and other Mesoamerican cultures.Look, I am a liberal, but I am sick and tired if whiny Liberal bullshit. The people who suffered because of European colonization and American expansion were not saints and were just as fucked up as we are.
Ok so what about the British flag? Lol 😂 they enslaved Africans and The Irish and white Irish... and killed them too
Perfect answer. I dislike what is happening to my country. The flag or political party has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's all those with no morals and all or nothing thinking when it comes to policy.
This. This. This. Thank you.
No one's saying America can't be made better. Hell, I LOVE my country, but acknowledge out healthcare and education system is pure taco sh*ts. I think OP is referring to the far-left progressives who think Trump is some kind of Neo Nazi, whiny teenagers on Twitter are living in Jim Crow era, and people who generally talk sh*t about America all the time, but won't put their money where their mouth is and permanently move like they ALL said they would in 2016 if Trump got elected. (They didn't even say they'd move to Mexico; most of them said Canada, showing how hypocritical and full of sh*t they were. And they STILL didn't even move.)Criticism is one thing. Criticism is fine. Pure anti-American hatred is another. And that is mostly coming from the far-left progressive radical types.
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You've got a little something on your nose.
@FýrdracaDócincel And what would that be?
FýrdracaDócincel I hope you get your account frozen for what you just said you messed around with an Uber Mod. Reported
@Iron_Man You flatter me.
Not trolling if I'm clearly right.You haven't denied a single thing I said.. not that it would matter for shit if you did.
@FýrdracaDócincel I don't respond directly to the statements of people who make ad hominem attacks.
The country of that flag is corrupt and doesn't give a shit about you.
@Dr_Sausa It's a great country that allows its citizens to openly criticize it. Try that in mainland China!
So you're saying that we have freedom of speech? That's not true. Let me go on television and openly expose our government's secrets. I'll end up dead in a week from a supposed 'suicide'.
@Dr_Sausa I don't believe you. Prove it.
Happens all the time with major medical breakthroughs. Doctors always randomly die of suicide shortly after pushing cancer cures, then labeled a 'fraud'. Here's one guy who wasn't affiliated with the medical field and died from suicide during the production of a new film that would expose the U. S. government.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNv9ipjU5Pw
Freedom of speech does not exist.
Older and wiser you’re better off setting some of these type of answers on no replies
No, he shouldn't because then I can't educate him and all the other know-it-alls who think highly of this country. The right-wingers are constantly in defence against their flag, but they're just as brainwashed as the left.
@Dr_Sausa Are you really a doctor? What degree do you have?
No, I'm not a doctor. If you read my about me, you'd see that.
Why would I want to read about you? Are you important?
You should move to Canada
Very. I'm one of the very few saviors of huamnity, but I can't change anything unless people WANT to change, but everyone lives in a bubble.
You should be kicked out of this country for insubordination you’re toxic
Why would you remove that comment? Are you that sensitive?
@Dr_Sausa You called me a "know-it-all." What did I say that indicated to you an attitude of omniscience?
For being like everyone else and thinking this country is great.
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@Dr_Sausa When did I say that I was like "everyone else?"
You were just talking about free speech and now my comment was removed. Oh the irony LOL.
Well if you are proud of this country, then you're basically every right wing conservative.
@Iron_Man Do you even know what insubordination means?
@Dr_Sausa So you feel comfortable operating with stereotypes and assumptions? As for free speech, have you ever actually studied Constitutional Law?
Well considering 95% or more of humanity are brainwashed idiots, stereotyping is completely okay. In math, 95% would get rounded up.
I've studied nothing involving law, but I don't need to.
@Dr_Sausa So when you round up the 95%, that includes you.
Older And Wiser you have won, he has no case he has no argument
@Iron_Man That was the point of the exercise.
Fortunately, I'm not part of the percentage. God has gifted me.
But inside you must feel good about winning your debates
And without having to resort to name calling
Nobody can defeat me.
@Dr_Sausa There is no point in me trying to talk to someone who is always right.
Older And Wiser is the real deal he’s an attorney which blows everybody away on this site because nobody holds a job like that here.
Always right in the subjects that I make it my business to be right about.
Okay, so he's an attorney. He might put up a good fight, but you're also going against a guy who has made it a part of his life to know what the hell goes on behind closed doors.
I think I would’ve made a good attorney
@Iron_Man Whatever you say Brock Lesnar.
@Dr_Sausa Thanks and I get called that all the time on here. Older And Wiser is my Paul Heyman
I wonder what two traitors who should be ex cuted for treason downvoted me?
So anyome who wishes to leave the union, with the suppprt of their own local populace, should be shot?How are you then in any way different from the British empire? For all intents and purposes, by your own logic, they should have a right to ahoot you because you left the empire and, as such, comitted treason.
@ThisDudeHere "So anyone who wishes to leave the union, with the suppprt of their own local populace, should be shot?"If you want to leave the USA, fine; there are plenty of other nations to go to.If you want to break up the USA, then, complain all you want, but you don't get to break up the USA and if you actively try and do so, yes, you should be killed. That's what the US Civil War was partly about - that the Union was indissolvable and once you joined it, you were forever a member.Learn about eh 1869 SCOTUS case "Texas v. White". From the Encyclopedia Britannica:https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White"Texas v. White, (1869), U. S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede."About the British...Yes, and that's why they were shooting at us.Google "US Revolution".
@vjreejr You're being hypocritical. You endorse what the revolutionaries did against the crown but would then condemn anyone who would do the same against the White House.
@ThisDudeHere There's no hypocrisy at all. They are both revolution attempts yes, but one I support and the other I do not. The one I supported - our revolution - was because of all the abuses that were occurring which our country has since engineered out of existence. I would never have supported the Confederacy - they were not being abused. Instead, they were behaving like 5-year olds who didn't get their way while living in a democracy. They wanted to continue slavery and Lincoln was elected and they didn't like that and, like Cartman on South Park, they said "Screw you guys, I'm going home." Well, tough - because your home is our home too and vice versa.
How very convenient then.
That's just a battle flag for the Confederate. This was the true Confederate flag for buildings. i.insider.com/5589bf6d69beddd45ce7c357
There is no master plan. They just want attention and to throw temper tantrums. Even when George Floyd's killer got convicted and he got nearly IMMEDIATE justice, they still continued to riot and loot. They will NEVER want any goals or change to happen, because that would render them obsolete. Just like feminism before them.
@MCheetah Who gave you permission to think rationally?
Fuckin’ A! :D
@MannMitAntworten My feelings exactly.
Glad to see that other people aren't ashamed to be Americans.
Maybe the infidels should put a jihad on you because of the infidel dogs that cowardly attacked the US on 9/11.
@Daniela1982 that was the CIA. Even an expert pilot couldn't hit those towers like that not a bunch of guys who took a few flying lessons. They were flown into the buildings by remote control.
Stop shouting. Shit.
France has had protests about the government for months before cv19. Don't big up another country before you know the facts
You have gotten a very bias and bullshit education in school. Democrats are brainwashing young kids and it’s disgusting.
If France is such a great country in your eyes why are you here in the US. Take your ass to France.( I'm assuming you are still in the US.)
Just for the record I'm Native American
@Chiefbenttwig it’s funny how all these brainwashed liberals cry and complain about America and yet why do so many people want to come here? If you think America is the only country that has a dirty past you are utter and complete moron. I’ve traveled to other countries. Just last week I was in one of the most dangerous cities in the world in Mexico. I could easily disappear walking down the wrong road or staying out past sundown. I don’t blame these kids I blame our fucking public education system, the mass media, Hollywood and now major league sports for brainwashing them. If they got their way we will be a 3rd world country in 30 years.
@bluetoblack99You have misread what I wrote. Try to pay attention & on & in the same book. Buttercup.I asked the individual that originally wrote this about my fuck COUNTRY (U. S. A.)that [ IF ] (I HOPE THE WORD ISN'T TO BIG FOR YOU TO HANDLE) they thought France was so great why are they still here in America. Now would you like me to list you a few countries that are fuck up as bad or worse the USA?
@Chiefbenttwig list away buttercup
@Friendlybro79 WE THE PEOPLE!! VOTE!! Elect ones that support what you believe! THAT IS THE POINT OF AMERICA!! WE THE PEOPLE, Choose them, to represent us! When they don't, WE THE PEOPLE CAN VOTE THEM OUT!!!All of the things you posted can be addressed by voting in the right people in!Nobody will EVER be 100% satisfied, as others have legitimate claims, contrary to yours!We try to find a middle-ground, when most are satisfied, at least!Don't bring slavery into this, and distort the question with rants, and things that should be addressed elsewhere, and other questions! That is just the sign of someone with no solid basis for their argument!
@JackSmy I agree with so many things you said. This wasn't a rant. I'm just trying to understand her thought process behind her comment. My points are not distortions they are a direct reason as to why someone can be offended and not have to leave. Your points are exactly the advice I would give to someone regarding why to vote. My response to the poster was to try to challenge her thought process like you have challenged mine. I am allowed to do that. If you were offended by my post, I want you to know, you have every right to respond, and defend your argument. I might not respond as to not turn into a rant and have no problem allowing someone else to get the final word. I'm very happy and comfortable with my stance here. I hope you have a good day.
I got a downvote from another dude who must like fucking my flag. Listen up dick, stop raping our beautiful flag!
Why? You are from Netherlands, the nation which is one of the founding members of the EUbro
@hknmhmn4 Because the EU is designed to remove democracy. It is a federal state that allows very little say from the citizens that life in it. The only option it offers is more EU and less democracy. The sooner we are sovereign again the better because there is no option to vote and make the EU more democratic on its own. It simply can not be done.
And as an extra fact, i know the elites of my nation are responsible for a lot of bad including the EU.The actual citizens voted against being a member, they ignored our will and did it anyway.
@WindAtMyBack Yeah and a swastika is just a symbol as well, right?
Whay would you eather have instead?
@ThisDudeHere I’m going to try to abbreviate this the best I can because I just spent hours debating this yesterday with someone else, and I’m just all tapped out of energy for it, haha.The Cliff Notes are that it’s a natural-order-driven approach. And I’m glad you asked what I’d rather have, because the whole theory is predicated upon staying within our naturally intended bounds, and the most important concept governing the whole thing is that human “wants” and how we feel about it are completely irrelevant, it’s simply not our call to make. I believe we answer to nature and nature only, because what I or you or anyone else “wants” isn’t the issue, it’s all about what nature wants. So most human-invented conveniences are “cheating the system”, as I see it. All of these “cheats”... industrialization, medicine, literally anything we wouldn’t have as cavemen... these have all ultimately gotten our planet (and in some senses, our species, despite the benefits we may enjoy) into a giant and unfortunately probably irreversible mess of overpopulation of humans. I don’t view any of it as “evolution”, evolution to me is in your physical characteristics. I view it as a folly, a giant misstep, even though I may be very impressed by our ability to develop or invent any of these modern conveniences. I feel like everyone sees it as sort of a manifested destiny for humans to be where we are today, but it just doesn’t add up to me. I don’t think that simply because some CAN be accomplished, that it SHOULD be accomplished.Now, I suppose you can call me somewhat hypocritical because I don’t live in the woods, and my participation on GAG alone is evidence of me enjoying modern conveniences. I’ll eat that, but my rationale is, unless EVERYONE ELSE does it too, then I’m just some “crazy” guy who walked off...
@ThisDudeHere ... to live in the forest. It’d take full participation, so I know I’ll never see it happen, humans are way too selfish and self-important to ever do that. But just because no one else believes it doesn’t mean it’s an incorrect concept. I mean, I of course concede that I COULD be wrong, I don’t have the definitive answer from an indisputable source. This is all just my theory, just like current human society is someone else’s theory, that I’m obviously challenging as mine is challenged. But this whole idea requires an acknowledgement that humans are in no way special as a species where we’d be exempted from the natural rules that seem to govern all creatures. I was waffling about posting a video, but it’s honestly a real tough watch and I don’t want risk upsetting animal lovers or squeamish people. So I’ll just say there’s a video out there of a swimming zebra being bitten around the abdomen/hind leg by a crocodile. The zebra manages to swim to shore, starts running away and shakes the crocodile, but there’s a burst of blood. The zebra is trying to run up a steep hill almost immediately, frantically kicking its hind legs, which causes its stomach to rip open, and literally you see this thing’s entire digestive tract fall out of its body as its trying to run. The zebra stops and is like biting or licking at it, but almost as if it’s just registering pain and thinks it’s still under attack. The video cuts out and resumes with the now-dead zebra being eaten by five or six crocodiles. Like that’s what nature is meant to be, folks. It’s gruesome, it’s scary, it’s dangerous, there are absolutely no guarantees of our own well being for any of us in any way. Again, it’s not that I WANT that to be our reality, I just think that IS supposed to be our reality whether we like it or don’t. I’d much rather be...
@ThisDudeHere... in a heated or air conditioned home enjoy modern comforts and conveniences like everyone else does, I just ultimately think we’re collectively wrong in doing so, and the overall intended system of the planet suffers as a result. So what I’d rather have doesn’t matter one bit, I don’t believe that’s our choice make. Countries and all that, to tie it all in, are just one of those unnatural constructs that facilitates all of it, so that’s my root objection to it, before we even get into all the dumb surface shit about how dividing that is to us as people.
"humans are way too selfish and self-important to ever do that."-I don't think it selfish to want to live a better life though."where we’d be exempted from the natural rules that seem to govern all creatures."A bit of a fallacy in my opinion. "Natural rules" comes off as if the order of things is rule-based, when in reality a more apt description would be "natural happenstance". It's just happenstance that the order of things in nature is as is, much the same way it is happenstance that we rose above it. It's the inevitability of sapience."Like that’s what nature is meant to be, folks."Again, that is what nature happens to be by happenstance. And we happen to be civilized, due to our intellect. There is nothing to return to because there is no correct or incorrect way for life to exist - all types of life exist the way they do because otherwise, they wouldn't have made it.
"I just think that IS supposed to be our reality"I have to fall back on the point I made in my second paragraph - your argumentation stems from the idea that reality is based on some predetermined rules when it's, in my opinion, not. Reality for each animal is what they make out of it. Most of the time, circumstance pushes things in certain particular ways, giving the wrong impression that reality is somehow guiding things."the overall intended system of the planet suffers as a result."That is also true though. But the way to solve it is not to abandone everything we achieved but to fix it and find a solution that lets us keep our civilization because, again, reality and it's rules are what we make them to be.
"Countries and all that, to tie it all in, are just one of those unnatural constructs"I would say they are in fact perfectly natural. Animals form their own equivalents to countries too - bee or ant hives, chimp societies, wolf packs, bird flocks, penguin colonies and etc."about how dividing that is to us as people."Divisions are necessary though. There will always be people with whom it would be impossible to coexist with due to diametrically opposed cultural differences. I highly doubt you'd want to live next to rural Chinese folk who boil dogs alive before eating them.
What does an extreme left person have to do with disliking their nation's flag? Lol
I’d like to think we are getting better at our international awareness though, when it comes to the colleges/Unis here, we have such a variety of courses to take, including language, geography, and history. Hell, one professor at my community college teaches a course on I think it was history of Anglo-Irish relations! I learned about it around the same time I was deep into learning about the Troubles.
@Matt57 yeah may be improving but it’s not the majority. I was once asked what language they speak in England!
@jjj101010 omfg, really?😂I’m not totally surprised though, we do have some really dumb people but nevertheless, it’s home and I still have love for it and it’s people. I’m hoping we can get away from stupidity/ignorance sometime soon though.
At the same time though, I also don’t believe it’s the greatest country on earth, I do tend to have disdain for the gov’t, and although I do have love for it’s people, I also don’t believe they can do no wrong.To sum it up, I don’t really know what they greatest country in the world would be, but for me this is home and I’m a little freer here to take part in some of my interests/hobbies here than anywhere else.
But if they dislike a country so much, why don’t they just leave? I use to live in California, but I hated the politics and culture of California. I decided to move to Texas, a conservative state. If people want universal healthcare, they can always move to Europe.
@7121uc Migration isn't as easy for people of third world countries. Their currencies lack worth so only the ones on the more wealthy side can afford it. Not to mention North Koreans have to risk death in order to get out.
Sorry, I thought we were talking about Americans. I was referring to Americans that burn our flag and destroy statues of Washington and Jefferson. They can always try to move to Canada or Western Europe.
@7121uc I'm not sure about who has exactly which reason for that, but as I said hating a flag doesn't mean hating the place you were born and raised in. Just because they hate the flag you can't throw them out. They are as American as you are. Just not so happy with who's ruling the place.
North Koreans could get some guts and over throw the existing government just like the US in 1774
I do the same for aspca. I have plenty and feel passionate about those two organizations, so of course ill donate as much as possible to both
You sir deserve a medal of honor
Don’t know who aspca are. Don’t think we have them in the Uk
@jjj101010 its animal rescue. They save abused animals/ homeless animals
Ah ok. We have similar ones
Whatever little sjw disliked, comment. Id be more then happy to block your trashy self so you dont have to see my comments anymore
Trump is the Anti-American? And the patriotic replacement for him would beee? Hmmm gonna have to help us here chief.
Biden works, but any functioning adult would work, too. I'm surprised anyone is slow enough to need help with this, actually.
Biden? ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
^whenever i see the flag nowdays its just used next to another symbol; trump/biden20, rebel flag, pride flag, flat earth (believe it or not🤣) etc. That doesn't make it "their flag" anymore then mine regardless of our differences.
Then you should go up to the soldiers and wounded vets who fought for your freedom and spit in their face. Because thats exactly what that means when you talk like this. Or better yet, move your ass to a 3rd world country, no one wants your sorry ass here.
@SexyAshh That is not at all what that means. A human being and a piece of cloth are in no way the same thing.
A flag is draped over the casket and flown half staff when military die. The flag represents the fallen soldiers and more. I would know because I've lost multiple friends in the army, and have multiple family in the army. Quit being an idiot like the rest of your generation research before speaking.
@SexyAshh it’s still just a glorified piece of cloth
And you're an embarresment to the African American community. Hope one of your friends/ family member dies a tragic death. And if you have anything left that symbolizes them, then its just a worthless piece of shit as well.
@SexyAshh Dude, the flag isn’t even a personal item. Every fucking soldier gets one. They’re in flag poles in random people’s front yards. It’s printed on leggings, and table cloths, and napkins. If one of my relatives were to die, I’d at least use a more personal item to remember by, and even then it’s just a symbol and could never compare to the real person.
can't argue any further with a 20 year old who gets their info from snapchat. Im literally losing brain cells. Continue on with your disgusting thinking. Moving on
@SexyAshh Can’t argue with a 25 year old who never had any brain cells to begin with.
You act as if Europe and Australia don't have radical SJW's in them, too. England never even had slavery; how the F*CK do they have a BLM chapter over there? Why is John Boyega in BLM? That don't make no damn sense, bruh.
@MCheetah there are radicals everywhere, left and right, but in the US they make the most extreme actions and public noise. Mostly the radical left nowadays.
True. However, don't let the media fool you. These people are less than 5% of us, overall.
@MCheetah I know, but still they are making a mess and the party propaganda doesn't help.
I assume it the author of the mytake was the one tthat disliked that. And if so, LOL another GAG hypocrite. Surprise surprise! :D Whoever did dislike it, get offended. Get very offended. :)
Whoever down raved this hope you burn in hell. ☠ ☠
How is it offensive? Lol
@Grubhub Explain HOW? I think you are wrong!! The poster did not post "Stars and Bars", the Confederate Flag, but the UNITED, American FLAG!! How does that even bring to mind, the Confederate Flag? Just curious to know, how you connect these!
The Confederate Flag was designed because they knew they weren't welcome under the United States flag. They were trying to distance themselves from the US because the US was trying to abolish slavery (which has existed in most countries, by the way).So no, the US flag does not represent the Confederate flag whatsoever.
Nevermind, I just checked your profile and you're clearly a troll trying to make liberals look bad and irrational.
@mistixs I have a hard time, sometimes, reading the relations between responses, and sometimes I think someone is posting and angry at something I said, but sometimes they are not.I have been reading a lot, about the Civil War, recently, with some things, and lies, some have posted here.SOOOOOO many think that the Civil War was about Slavery, but it was only PARTLY, about that!!Truly, it was about STATE'S RIGHTS!! DO STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE TO SECEED from the UNION!! The Nation, Congress, and Lincoln, said NO!! The South said, "Let's see"!!"Stars and Bars" is offensive, to most, because they associate it, with SALVERY, but that is not the MEANING OF THAT FLAG!They felt that their grievances were not heard in Congress, and that the NORTH was dominating, and maybe forcing them to change the lifestyle they lived for 200 years.Slavery is BAD, and EVIL, and I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THAT!! But there were other issues, and the Southerners are PROUD people, to this day!!The whole thing was handled badly, and the North just seemed like an oppressive, controlling force!I cannot condone, or believe in some of what they fought for, but I UNDERSTAND, and THROUGH UNDERSTANDING, DO NOT HATE AND JUDGE!