yeah and 94% of deaths in america didn't die "to" corona but "while having corona" xD
Yeah when you account for all they faked or lied about America probly had average or below average death. That's also with America having a very unhealthy Population it just proves how this is not deadly at all it's just flu over blown
exactly... yet so few people know this. most ignore it. i think they can't accept that their government is actually lying to them so they rather believe bullshit.
It's just the left that doesn't know this. They really don't follow anything they just read a few posts on Facebook and obey the Talking Heads on TV.
ok that is actually in my opinion harmfull ideology. you can't just shove someone that disagrees with you in a political corner. that's bullshit. i hate when people do that. i've been called nazi and antifa for my opinion... those labels are completely worthless.you're doing the same thing the "leftists" do. you're judging people by group identity. try to avoid that. it's not good.
They all think this way that's why they're left this they're very under informed I have never met a Person on the left who actually knew the issues.
"they all think the same way" that is extremely dangerous group identity ideology. i agree that the far left often don't have their facts straight... but that mentality of just judging them before listening causes everyone not to listen to each other and split the society. it's super dangerous. and nobody should do that. neither left nor right.
don't make the same mistake you're accusing the others to make.
You do listen to them it's proves they don't know what they're talking about. The fact is pretty much all of them live in a fantasy where they don't know what's happening and obey the Talking Heads on TV it want to do know what's happening lie about it to get political power.
ok. so i'm a bit foreign from americas culture. but isn't trump considered conservative? so then if you say it's mostly leftist who support this, why do so many trump supporters also support it? it is my personal experience that both political sides are pretty much equally full of shit... though granted i experienced the conservative side to be a bit more rational.
What are you saying trump supporters support that liberals do as well. Basically there's 2 main groups in America people who want the government to be their mommy and daddy and take care of them at people who want to take care of themselves there's really no overlap
oh well then it's a authoritarian vs libertarian thing and not about liberal/conservative at all tho. cause that's what you just described.
you can be conservative and libertarian or liberal but autoritarian.
yup they didn't only lie in america. most of the western world too.
and what is the truth?
Exactly. Hiding the real numbers
actually the numbers they show are real and they are true. though what they claim the numbers say isn't what the numbers do say.so i always hear people say "200.000 people died to covid in america" which is wrong. 11.000 died "to" covid. 94% of all the counted deaths only had a positive corona test. they were not killed "by" corona.
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yup. i know. i'm just shocked how so few people know this, even though they're not making a secret about that bullshit at all.
doesn't matter how many cases were in china. i think it's ridiculous that the western world is A: not able to contain it or B: not able to count deaths right.
It’s a virus, it spreads. Short of full marshal law and everyone confined to their houses indefinitely, it combat be contained completely
it's a virus. it spreads. and it kills people. just like the flu does. and actually 3-5 times less bad than SARS and MERS were.
OR the virus isn't dangerous.
Holl up. Completely forgot the possibility that individuals from china could be more immune to these types of viruses due to the amount of them.
it "could" be that everyone in the world is as immune to corona. it "could" be that just cause "someone" is interested in selling a drug is interested in us thinking we're in danger.
i don't trust any government. neither the chinese one nor the german or American.
oh that is easily explained. a lockdown causes people to lose jobs and struggle in america. in china, a lockdown kills people, cause so many are already of the edge of poverty/starvation. that's why so many numbers are gone. not cause of covid.
ok, that could be
that is actually the case in germany. we do have a bureau of investigations for citical policy errors, that wrote a 120 page report on how the current lockdown policy is causing death due to suicide, delayed or canceled cancer/hard disease or other critical condition surgery or checkups. deaths as the consequence of the policy in germany was estimated around 125.000, while officially 9000 died "with" (not "to") corona. the reports conclusion was also independently made by germanies most popular health ensurance company, warning that we have 90% less cancer surgeries and checkups and 95% less coronary heart disease surgeries and checkups. their report was taken down from their website for some reason.this report by the bureau for critical policy errors was meant for internal review and upon being ignored, the autor released it to the public and lost his job and his paper was made fun of in the mainstream media and called "the ridiculous unasked for paper written by some moron" (even though it was written by the very person that is responsible for writing that sort of reports) and is currently very hard to find even on google...it's like i live in china. the government hides the truth. and i can't imagine it's any different in any other western government right now.
i think the western worlds governments lie about the death numbers. i mean they openly say that they don't count the people who died "to" corona but who died and had a positive test... so if you're hit by a truck and died and they take a test on your corpse, you#re a corona death...
so you're saying not a single western world country has such strong government controll and obedient citizens?
Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying
what if it was just a "governmental control tool" that was copied from china? it worked very well in the western world. most western countries except sweden had a lockdown and people were obedient. and no country has surprising death counts above a seasonal flu so it worked without having a reason to do that.
Chinese people are raised to respect authority and fear government while Americans are raised to practice civil disobedience
in fact china has an ongoing civil war right now. don't know if you know that. it's mostly not in the mainstream media. the population did and still does revolt against the government and they do not bey at all...however western worlds media is censored. they don't show things about china that would show china in a way that is relatable to us, cause the western governments wants us to hate china.
There is going to be deviants which is going to happen when the population is over 2 billion but a minuscule group does not reflect the whole population
hmm ok. well. i think we in the west think way too bad about china and way to good about our western governments... cause they lie and censor and oppress people in much the same ways. not much different honestly.
I had a decent view of America before they voted for trump - now I’m glad I live in Canada
well to be honest, i think clinton would not have been much better. not saying trump is great at all... just the lesser evil.
the choices are just both crappy as fuck. and biden isn't any better either... he's basically a high profile criminal just like clinton. while trump is comparatively a small fish.
no, they only had lockdown in late January. they knew about the disease in November 2019
I watch a Uighur girl youtube from close to release. maybe have been released one week.So I guess now all adopt it. I did not pay attention to all even no.