@nghtdrot-Well said, and your writing style is admirable, the creativity is awesome. As to the substance, I can see how you would conclude the Trump will be seen as just another inconsequential President. I’m wondering, has ‘the swamp’ always existed? And how is it related to populism?
@Girther10 Thanks, as always, for your very generous compliments. You are too kind.As to your questions, I am not sure I understand the second one, but the answer to the first one is, Yes, there has been. The funny part is that in a different cultural context they were called the "elite" - and elite was not an epithet, but a honorific. The best of the best, the best and the brightest. The people to whom societies turn to address their most complex issues.They become "the Swamp" for two reasons - one valid, one not. The not valid reason is that society resents those it depends upon. As I always like to point out, the American public who bewail the Swamp have the following profile - 1 in 6 works for the Swamp, i. e. the government. 1 in 7 is a Social Security recipient. 1/3 of all families will, this year, receive some form of transfer payment. 49% pay no Federal income tax - AT ALL.Thus, the Swamp. The massive bureaucracy that the public summoned into being but will not consent to be rid of. Social resentments to follow.Of course, the elite are human as well and thus imperfect. They can be self-interested and the way to check that is to hold them accountable. A massive bureaucracy is hard to hold to account. Worse, the public - for all its' foot stomping - will not consent to remove that elite by relying less on them and voting them out.That is the short answer - it is more complicated but space does not permit - to your question. You want less Swamp, expect less of government and be prepared to punish those who do not meet the test. The problem being - as this status quo election exquisitely demonstrates - you have two candidates who promised you different versions of the Swamp. Superficially different, but actually simply a choice of swamp creatures.
P. S. By the way, pal. An indirectly related aside -Two books that I STRONGLY commend to you.1) Statecraft as Soulcraft: What Government Does by George F. Will (Published 1983.)2) The Decadent Society: How We Became the Victims of Our Own Success by Ross Douthat (Published 2020.)These are, by far, the two best contemporary books on politics I have ever read and if you want to understand politics - trust me - you cannot go without reading them.
P. P. S - Boy! You got me on a roll.Just one other thing regarding my point about holding elites to account. To the extent that "elites" and "the Swamp" includes business, "special interests" and the like, the more things the public wants government to do, the more dependent it becomes on these elites and this makes the Swamp self-perpetuating.If you want a government that is responsive to public opinion - you need a small and simple government that addresses basic issues and problems. Once you expect government to "fight poverty" and "eliminate pandemics" and manage the relations of a global superpower, you create a large government that becomes - at a certain level of detail - inaccessible to the public.There is, frankly, no public opinion in any meaningful sense on most public policy issues. The public has a vague sense of whether it is content or not, but on specific policies like "quantitative easing" - to cite one example - there IS no public opinion.Thus it is left to those who are impacted or have an interest in such policies and who have the resources to hire the lawyers, accountants and lobbyists to navigate and influence the regulatory state. Suffice to say that most voters lack such means and hence resentments build.Of course, such resentment is pure hypocrisy. If you want to increase the influence of the common man, shrink the government. Try to shrink the government, and the public howls in righteous indignation. Thus the horns of the dilemma and the fuel for the current populist outrage.
Sadly 2024 is out of the question as Trump won't be eligible to run for a third term.
Eh, no. You can’t be president for three terms, but you can run for three terms.
Right on. Thank you for your response.
Thank you. Dead on
@Mia-Wallace- I agree completely. Very well articulated summary of what has happened in the world of conservatism. I am especially alarmed about the assault on men and masculinity in general. It comes along side transgenderism, another leftist inspired calamity. And remember #metoo? It has been so bastardized by the Left, it’s mostly nonexistent anymore. “Believe all women” became the mantra, and in my opinion, most people realized how ludicrous that is and turned their back on such messaging by the left. And now the conservatives are being censored by big tech, resulting in election meddling by the Left, imho.
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Every election in your lifetime, with just one exception, has been called while counting was still going on. The exception being 2000, when the decision came down to one state and hundreds of votes.
@goaded Recounts happen all the time both on the state and federal level. Also that is entirely irrelevant (as per usual), as regardless of their frequency they are something that happens (again, frequently) and are not only standard but are legal to the point were every state has laws on recounts and when you can request one. Currently we have uncovered THOUSANDS of votes that were for trump that were not counted, and that is only in the few districts this is happening in, so clearly their was justifiable cause for the recounts.So again, you make up stupid arguments in a vain attempt to push your ideological beliefs without actually knowing what is going on (which is of course why your a leftist, because you have no idea what is going on). Please, go bother some one else.
So, this year, for the second time in 40 years, the election is in doubt? Despite the margins being in the tens of thousands over multiple states, all election officials saying (after two weeks of checking) the counts are good, not to mention Trump's history of lying about nearly everything, and Republican attempts to nullify whole elections (grandstanding about massive voter fraud but making penny-ante legal claims that don't contain any claims of fraud, let alone provide any evidence).Guiliani is trying to steal the election for Trump.
Some pundit was saying something like "So what if Biden wins, then we'll have two presidents!". Funny how "respect the office!" and "reduce the deficit!" are never seen in the same room at the same time, isn't it?
“@jshm2- “ Trumpism” was, and is, a thing, no matter what you say... lol and by identifying it like that, does not give credit to him, except in your own narrow mind. Trump will be a major point in American history, no matter if you like it, or not... lol
Elton - ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m only the piano player”... lol but you’re right, they created a monster, and it making them loony. Lol
They still kiss trumps a** though
@Mishan97: Because he's still the president. Everyone talks trash and say what they really to want to say once the person is gone. Once Trump leaves the White House they will trash Trump openly. Mark my words.
yeah you're probably right about that. It's just annoying how none of them have a backbone and are willing to stand up to him while he is president.
They won't trash him, they're afraid of his supporters.
@goaded: Yes, they would once he leaves. People have short memories especially when it comes to politics. Once a politician sees his or her individual political career or political party is having trouble, they swift blame unto others to distance themselves from failure not to make themselves or political party look bad. Image is absolutely everything to a politician.
It's because people have criticized me too much for only speaking positively about Trump, so I decided to be fair and criticize him a bit.
Fair enough, what is your gripe?
What do you mean? Gripe about what?
What's your issue with Trump outside of his attitude.
I think he's just making excuses as to why he didn't win. It'd be epic if he somehow still won, but it seems unlikely.
I agree on the epic part, but Did you see the graph in Wisconsin? If You're into math Like me, you know that ain't right. There were more votes than registered voters in Milwaukee county. Michigan has some abnormalities as well, look at their graphs. They we counting both absentee and in person and suddenly spiked at 4:30 am, when they kicked out poll watchers and said they were done counting for the Night. I believe WI and AZ were close, so we'll see, but He had an impossible lead in PA and MI, but they dragged it out long enough to win. Fish, Fishy, Fishy!, but if the Courts are to corrupt to act on it, hard beans, but there will never be a trusted election again, so we're hoping something changes by Dec. 14th.