@Puppystarfish23 A challenging position, for most men. I am not one that would run away, and I would not support abortion, but what about the guys that don't want a child, and are too IMMATURE to handle being a father? She chooses to have the child, and he is unemployed, not caring, or wanting, and being a total D-Bag. He can't force you to abort it, but he is now stuck?Just some things that are REALITY! Some guys are NOT 'Men' and TOTALLY unsuited to be fathers, and yes, they should never have been with you, or maybe used a condom, but what now?He just runs away, like the LOSER punk he is, and you are stuck, alone, as a single mother?How is that right? What about the child, when growing up, asking "who is daddy?"Kind of a huge mess!But, you let him have sex with you. Not excusing ANYTHING, but it isn't TOTALLY his fault!
@JackSmy well im sorry, he's gonna have to grow up quickly then. If he was mature enough to have sex he's mature enough to take responsibility for the consequences afterwards
It goes both ways. If a woman has the right to opt out of the responsibility instead of thinking about the consequences then so does the man. Both of them should have thought about the consequences or both of them should have the right to opt out. I love how women want to be able to avoid responsibility but expeect men to take responsibility talk about double standards, hypocrisy, and fake gender equality lol. If the man doesn't want the child but the woman does a good compromise is a financial abortion where in exchange for signing away his parental rights he doesn't have to have any responsibility for the child.
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I’m soooo glad my ex wife didn’t abort. Her dad and mom wanted her to.
@ Glad my X didn't either I had the pleasure of bringing them up sharing so many proud moments with them
So are you against child support (as it is ultimately his money/body that generates that wealth that she then takes from him against his will, that would be the equivalent to him demanding she get an abortion)? Also if he wanted to keep the child and she didn't, what then as she was equally responsible for not using protection and is just as responsible as he is?
If the guy was irresponsible he would have used a condom.But the girl is even more irresponsible. Women say that only a woman should have control over her body. That is 100% correct. If a woman doesn't want a kid she needs to take control of her reproductive system and not get pregnant.
@Dweezil You mean if the guy was *responsible* he would have used a condom, right.Yes, I agree with you. No one should be lying about using protection, or that they're going to pull out, or they don't have STDs, or have recently been tested, etc etc. But ultimately, it's up to the female to ensure without a doubt that she is protected from pregnancy.
Also, more damage from Trump. He and Amy Coney Barrett are trying to overturn Roe vs. Wade.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54513499I am vehemently against taking away the right for legal and medically safe abortions.
Now there we do differ. Abortion is necessary in some health situations. I have no problem with that.What I do have a problem with is abortion on demand as a form of birth control. Like l said a male needs to wrap his dick.
But going back to a woman being in control of her reproductive system, abortion should be needed
Abortion on demand would not be needed if a woman who doesn't want a kid takes control of her reproductive system. Sorry I am having a hard time typing for some reason
@Dweezil Yep, abortion is an extremely heated topic, and I understand people have strong opinions about this, as do I.I really can't speak on behalf of people who get them. I don't intimately know their mindsets, but I do highly doubt that it is not an emotionally traumatic situation, and that a girl or woman would want to avoid that situation, especially if she had one. Might knock some sense into her. (We 100% agree about rape situations, etc., I'm sure.) I don't think there's any excuse for not being responsible. Also, the 'morning after' pill falls into a similar category. It's much wiser to 'wrap it up' beforehand, as you say, not try to put out fires later. But I do in general support birth control and the recognition that someone is not capable of taking care of another human life. A species can't just keep reproducing ad infinitum. It's not sustainable.
Actually it does. If evil acts don't make a person evil, then what does?
Yup. Welcome to the future
I’m not against abortion but damn if you don’t make a good point