You guys are nuts
yes conservatives are nuts.
You should genuinely seek help
seek help for what? all i told you is what conservative means. Or you an idiot who think it means something else and follows something else then thinks he is a conservative.
I'm a big dumb idiot I guess
I don't mean this in a rude way, but that's the stereotype. There are plenty of American conservatives like that, but there are plenty, if not more, who aren't.For example, I live on the east coast, in the richest County in America (as opposed to rural areas, I'm not mentioning it to brag), I'm 25 and have considered myself conservative for 10 years (not elderly), ever since I got into politics. I went to college and was in honor roll the entire time, I'm not obese, I don't fly the Gadsden flag (I didn't even know that was the name of it until just now when I had to look it up), I oppose the confederacy but for the sake of civility I don't do so actively or verbally (I'm also an advocate for the tolerance of differing views), I'm technically agnostic, but practically atheist, I don't have a scruffy appearance, and I don't wear casual clothing in public very often.I do however fly the American flag (just one), I do own a few guns, I am white.
Almost none of that applies to me
"Anti lgbtq, Only likes modest clothes, Supports BLM"It's your opinion and all, but none of these are remotely true. (And I'm not a conservative, for what it's worth.)
@MCheetah every conservative i know thinks like thag lmao.
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Can you elaborate?
The same Patriots that committed mass shootings and wanted to secede (again) when a black man became President?
@Marriedwith2 *sigh* You need to chill. Did you know Obama was a democrat, and democrats were the ones that voted for slavery during the civil war? Republicans are usually conservative, almost always, not the democrats.
Nice... an attack for an honest answer. I have some nerve disagreeing with your opinions. All that hate and vile inside of you makes you very toxic. Have you noticed that have stopped wanting to hand around you yet?
Should they take moral advice on people who regard others as amoral degenerates?
See that last part of what I said. They should actually care about others - whether that means taking advice from other people or not.
Does the last part of what you said refute the point in my last response?
Only if you're an amoral degenerate.
So, according to you, as long as I am an amoral degenerate, then "old school conservatives who can hold normal conversations and care about others" being what conservatives should strive for, refutes the notion that your morality is questionable due to the way you regard others, thus rendering your opinion on morality unmeritted.Unless you can provide an unlikely explanation, I'm going to say its fairly ironic that you're questioning the intelligence of others. What you're claiming can only be explained by intellectual incompetence, or having a stroke.The requirement to make what follows true does not cause any sort of dependence of following (that being the quality of me being an amoral degenerate and the supposed refutation that follows), and the two things mentioned in the following (that being the epitome of what you claim a conservative is, and your immoral behavior) are also not related and have no correlation, thus, not refuting anything.
I didn't say *you* were anything. I don't know you or what you believe. The question was about Conservatives. Are you a "Conservative"?
And I didn't say that you said that I was anything. I said that you said that I had to be an amoral degenerate in order to make the refutation true, hence your response of "only if you're an amoral degenerate" to my "does the last part of what you said refute the point in my last response."And yes, I am a conservative.
I mean, you could be an old school Conservative for all I know.
That's not the point. I'm not offended you might think I'm an amoral degenerate, I'm pointing out that people certainly shouldn't take moral advice from people who regard others as "amoral degenerates." I was also pointing out how you calling others idiots is laughable because you can't seem to follow an argument to save your life, of which you've now exemplified literally four consecutive times.
Do you care about people who don't hold your same political beliefs?
I do. Again, that's not the point.
Yeah, but do you really? Or does it have conditions?
In some ways, no, it doesn't have conditions, in most practical ways, yes, it has conditions, as any reasonable person's does. I mostly don't care for serial killers, for example, but part of me wonders if perhaps they ended up that way due to some other psychological distress. Same goes for bullies. Maybe they're bullying because they, themselves, are experiencing some sort of hardship. Maybe people who are just outright mean and harsh are like that because they experienced abuse growing up.. I care about that. But I care less about serial killers than your average, kind-hearted individual. So it would be silly for me to say "no, my care has no conditions whatsoever." Your quest is very ridiculous. It seems as though you're trying to play a semantic game, when in reality no reasonable person can say "no, my care for others has no conditions."Now, why are you trying to derail the conversation?
I guess he's done trying to distract from his shortcomings.
Oh, we're still doing this. Okay.Do you care about immigrants?
I mean, we weren't. That was the point. You stopped entertaining the initial conversation because you knew you were in over your head, then you tried to derail the conversation into whatever this is now.But yes, I do. Can you get to your point, already? And if not, can you ask all your questions all at once so we can actually be productive, here?
If you want to believe I just wasn't capable of going up against your towering intellect, then you do you, man. Do you care about illegal immigrants?
Would you like to demonstrate how I may be incorrect? Or would you prefer to avoid addressing it?And yes, I do. Granted, that depends on what you think "care for" entails, but yes, I care for virtually everyone in some regard, illegal immigrants included.
Excellent. Then you're opposed to the way the Trump Administration has handled the border, right?
You mean their continuation of what the Obama administration implemented? Its not perfect, but I'm content with how it is conducted, given the complications it arises.But let it be known that you are, in fact, trying to derail away from the initial topic, in some childish attempt at a "gotcha" about Trump, of which I've never sworn blind loyalty to. You act as though even if Trump is doing something wrong at the border, that somehow acts as a refutation to what I've said, but it doesn't. You're just desperately trying to come up with anything.
Okay, I'll bite. Let's recap what you've said. It can be boiled down to "nuh-uh, that's just what you think". Which is pretty much the only takeaway you can have from a question about what people's knee-jerk reaction to hearing a word is: it's what I think. And then you go on to attempt to get me to knock down a straw man: that somehow questioning the morality of others invalidates moral judgements in some way that is objective enough to be proven. To sum it up, you asked about what I think of when I hear the word "Conservative". That is in and of itself an entirely subjective question. I personally think being content with the way immigration is handled in our country as an amoral position; no one who professes to care at all about the wellbeing of immigrants would support it. You're free do disagree, of course. Just as I'm free to consider you an amoral degenerate.
Let it be known that I've stopped entertaining this because it's just getting time consuming and it's not worth the time it takes. You claim that I have expressed disagreement with your "thought," hence "nuh-uh, that's just what you think," which I haven't. I haven't once claimed your thought was incorrect (though it is), I claimed that you're in no position to ridicule the morality of others due to your blatant hypocrisy in that regard. Your "recap" wasn't even remotely representative of what was said.If you can quote me claiming something that is even remotely representative of "nuh-uh, that's just what you think" regarding your perspective on conservatives, I will renew your right to have this discussion with me.
Weird, I thought you were the one who wanted to keep talking about this.
I was, but someone can only be so wrong so many consecutive times until any further continuation just isn't productive and isn't worth the time it takes.
You'd think someone would try to avoid being wrong, then. I take it that despite your agreement, you still won't be able to quote me telling you that your "thoughts" about conservatives is incorrect, prior to your remark claiming that I had said it?
Ugh, I guess you do want to continue this conversation. I'll come clean with you, man - I haven't put much thought into this thread. Out of all the stuff going on here on GAG, I don't really care about this one very much. You're probably right - my line of reasoning is most likely flawed about whether or not someone should care what I think. And that's kinda the whole point - it doesn't fucking matter what I think. It _certainly_ doesn't matter to me what you think. ;)
I think it was incompetence, not disinterest, but I think you're on the right track. Shall we head our separate ways, then?
Hey, you do you man.
Will do, best of luck
First ademenment=fcc nsa censorship Second admenment=Gun control 4th&5th ademenment= cops dont care 13th admenment= slavory legal as punishment its why we send so many to jail
Trump said hed stay out foreighn relations he bombed syria for using less harmful weapons we give israel that israel uses on hospitals. how any different
@israelisevil I didn't mean things would be exactly the way I said. I meant for the most part.
What reality is that, and what way of life is that?
What do you mean by that? When I think conservatives I think traditional American values say what you want do what you want defending your property respect everyone (obviously were talking Lincoln conservative i’m not the biggest fan of Reagan I’m republicans mainly because the Libertarian party is a joke and the history of the Democrat party)
Anyone else find it ironic that the person who claimed a falsehood and was proven wrong by a conservative liked this comment. 🤣🤦♂️
Except that I wasn’t obstinate or argumentative. I read the source that you posted and engaged with it instead of assuming it was “fake news”.
Plus Biden is himself fairly conservative. Thinking he’s a socialist, or even a progressive, is laughable.
@okeydoke very true I think joe Biden is A political Chamaeleon so he’ll do what is popular unfortunately we’re see a fight between the blue dog democrats (joe Biden Nancy Pelosi) vs the progressive socialist wing (AOC Ilhan Omar Gavin Newsom). Who ever wins that fight joe Biden will turn into
Your lack of obstinacy or lack of being argumentative doesn't refute the notion that you claimed a falsehood and were factually disproven by a conservative at or near the time you indicated an agreement with the notion that "conservatives have issues with factual information." Thus, there's irony afoot.And quite frankly, you "engaged" with it the least you possibly could. You didn't even provide an admission, something ever so prominent in the online political sphere. People can be wrong all they want, they never have to admit it or take responsibility for the words.
How many American conservatives do you personally know?
None, because I don't want people like that in my life
that is awful about Quackthulu's posts. What happened to them
I believe she likely is removing the responses because they don't happen to fall within her preferences of how she'd rather merespond.
ohhh. She seems to be involved in a lot of disagreements on this site. I suspected that she has a mental illness, but I just steer clear of her because you can't reason with someone suffering from delusions
Why might that be?
Have you looked around? Now ask me the same question for political liberals in the us.
I'd rather have a more substantial answer to the first question, if you're willing. But sure, what's your opinion of American liberals?
Hahaha queen 👍
Why is that?
Reagan started gun control trump banned bumpstocks, They agree on all foreighn policies. They bothe terrorize middle east. bothe obama and bush used crazy amounts of sexual torture in iraq through prison knows as abu grahib. And they both give away billions to israel kill kids.
Like Joe Biden?
He’s definitely pandered to old school segregationists significantly more than I would have liked.Fortunately he was never such himself. Biden is essentially a moderate.
Former U. S. Vice President Joe Biden once said he didn't want his kids to grow up in a "racial jungle" in regards to desegregation.www.snopes.com/.../
I’m not about to defend him. I voted for him, but he wasn’t the guy I wanted.
You don't have to defend him, but I'd certainly suggest you don't claim "he was never a segregationist, himself" again.
Asker I’m sorry bad debate question I’m a trump supporter but trump has definitely done thing that aren’t conservatives his history with women is terrible his Twitter is bad for him and he says stuff that that’s not helpful to what he’s doing. Joe Biden has been in office for 47 years he is a Chamaeleon as a politician he keeps all the time and he won’t bring in significant changes to the United States I don’t think his plan is any different than trumps plan on covid. So let’s not debate on who is better as individual state on the philosophical ideas. @okeydoke if conservatives are segregationist why are we against affirmative action, why did I have to vote against an initiative that would separate black and white people on college campuses by Dorms I’m in Washington state this was posed by the Democrats same with California. Republicans don’t care if we have a black roommate or not they really care what the race of our roommates are, so I’m confused on how her segregationist
I was not debating who was better, I stated that the current leader and icon of the Democratic party, typically the opposition to conservatives, is what he claims the conservatives are.
Yes that’s awesome lol Ben I listening to Matt Walsh as I type this (he one of dailywire guys) I’m an all access member