Don't you think communism is a dead idea, only china is Communist but soon it will also disintegrate like USSR. I am from India and Communist party of India is the most idiotic and stupid party they support those people or countries which are actually against India like Pakistan and china but I think communism will soon die after china disintegrate.
@r_sha communism left by itself will die within less than 5 years, they basically don't have enough money (my family lived through that short period), but it's the western countries who invested into communist countries that kept it alive, not to mention if you learn history, it's western countries that funded ussr and red china to gain control and take power. I recommend you read antony sutton's books about how the ussr was funded. Even in some videos of china uncensored, there are people acknowledged American companies like standard oil funded the ussr, which indirectly funded north vietnam and north korea while American soldiers were dying in the battlefield.There are many real history that only survivors know, and they are dying down with old age, and we don't dare to talk about it, because communists have their own internet/real life army, they'll start attacking you, exposing your personal life, and make life so miserable that you don't dare to talk about it anymore, and the world moves on with kids these days dreaming of having free stuff without working for it, dreaming of increasing tax for others but not for themselves.Let's make it simple, you wouldn't give your money to a stranger, why would you give your life, your rights, your means of self defense, your property to a stranger, or a group of strangers, and ask them to give you back ten times more for a life time? It's so simple on the street you wouldn't, but these kids who admire communism would give it to the government, which is basically a group of strangers you have no way of controlling them, or having them guaranteed they will give you back half of your original property. They just like the idea of taking stuff from people who have more than them, they don't realize when an omnipotent government takes, they will take everything from everyone.
@r_sha Did you know north korea export their labours overseas for working? After an amount of time the people will be sent back to north korea but the money is sent to the government. I even visited the country for myself, i signed up for the medium price chinese tour, not the fancy ones they showed westerners. I see kids working in construction sites, old men and women farming with their bare hands with barely any tools, and the whole city went dark at 7. It's like a ghost town, it was built for tourists, not for living people.It's sad to me that with Chinese growth started slowing down, western countries started investing in new communist countries like Pakistan and Vietnam, it will be like when China took over USSR's place. My family wishes that the world would sanction communism completely and let us people decide for ourselves, you will see how fast things change. Other than that, communism will never die, even after china, vietnam, north korea, pakistan, western countries always find a new place to invest.I heard that India has a communist party, some other southeast Asian countries had silently killed all communist party's members, they don't want to take the risks. You guys are taking a big risk letting them stay alive.
I think you are right but you know things which I never read or heard.
@r_sha yeah, not many knows about hong kong refugee camps for the vietnamese, or how the very last gold reserves of south vietnam was taken by American government before they withdraw (my teacher's dad was one of the soldier who transfer gold). We actually know america was going to retreat in the early 1970, before the actual announcement. But my family didn't believe it, so some of us stayed, which was the worst decision ever. Back then we thought we were just reuniting with our people, but communist are just devils, they are not human. Media doesn't want to cover any of this, leading to kids these days dreaming of bringing communism to their country but they don't dare to move to communist countries to live. :))
My replies were trolling but thank you for your opinion
@jennyfoxworth 5.56 does a real good job of handling vegan communists. Their days are numbered, were gonna have another 9/11 soon, despite us running out of Jihad's.
But there are really people here who actually just stubborn and don't accept history, fantasize and advocate the idea of communism. It is people like them that hurts people like me, normal working class.My dad reached junior high during the last years of south vietnam. He remembers students (esp high school seniors and uni students) advocating for communism, for free life, for social welfare. Those "freedom fighters" ended up dead or killed themselves after the system failed completely in just the first few months. Where were they when people like my dad got no food to eat?
Fantasizing about communism is fantasizing about a government killing for you, stealing for you, in the end you aren't even the one benefited. It maybe free speech for you, but study about the topic before actually be stubborn and spreads such deadly ideas for others. When you fight for the rise of communism, admit that you're fighting for yourselves, not for other, not for working class, not for students who look forward to a happy future studying at college, not for female like me who is willing to work extra and pay less. You're not even stealing for your children, just your own. I hope those communism advocates live a long life, have a lot of children, move to communist country like North Korea (from what I see they are the only one staying true communism nowadays), and I hope all your children get to experience full communism at its best like you have always dreamt of.Here I haven't even mentioned about Tibet, where China took over and killed all monks who just want to keep their religion, media is all about Muslims and Uighyurs. I get to know my current Tibetan friends from volunteering, many of them cross the indian tibetan borders on their foot, still holding refugee papers instead of changing into indian passport, because they want to hold on to their last identity as a tibetan. One of them was in a group of 5 walking for months without even knowing the way, just keepon going the opposite direction to the chinese soldiers. His shoes worn out so he used whatever he could find to wrap his feet to keep on walking. Many accidents happened on the way and he was the only one left reaching the borders, with his face full of scars from falling here and there climbing mountains and his feet completely ruined from the trip. Communism is good? Why does a monk willing to have half his body ruined trying to runaway from it?
At any rate, at the end of the day, the question answers itself. The theory has been discredited - except perhaps among young college students who cannot tear themselves away from their (capitalist produced) I-phones long enough to read a book as well as those for whom dogma spares them the exquisite torture of having to think and actually examine the evidence and the historical record. Suffice to say, a theory that reduces human nature reductio ad absurdum, that then vests absolute powers of social decision making in human beings who are not, at the end of the day, the way the theory says that they are, and then creates an economic system based on warped incentives derived from that flawed reading of human nature is not terribly promising. It is not too surprising that how it worked in fact is how it actually functioned.
Very informative, thank you very much!
Thanks for your very generous compliment. I am glad that you found it useful.
Thanks man for the videos! (don't pay heed to my first responses, I'm actually just trolling :D
Thanks for the downvote OP.What's the point of asking a question online, if you can't handle opinions you don't like?
"In a communist society the wealth produced would be owned and shared equitably"So what would be stopping someone from not producing wealth if they were guaranteed a share of everything."and as there is over-abundance produced"Implies that resources are infinite, which they are not."everyone can have all they want in living conditions and freedom"How would you distribute equal living space to everyone? Wouldn't that mean a single-story house for all? Wouldn't you have to demolish all cities because it would not be fair for someone to live in a small appartment on the 9th floor while someone else lived in a bigger one, if not a house, on the ground floor?"up to the point where it would limit others having the same"How would you deliver all products to everyone? Some products can't really even be shipped across the world without spoiling. That or some people would have fresh produce because they live near where it's grown/harvested - that would be unfair, no?"including the safety of the environment."Coming back to housing - you'd still have to harm the environment to sustain a society anyway."As communism is democratic, it is formed by the people who are part of it at the time"Formed by people who are part of it? In what way? Would everyone have to be in the government? How would people go about their daily lives and work, if they also had to take part in political discussion (which takes up all day)?
"so we can’t really guess the format"So then why are people peddling something that they don't even know how it would function?"people will choose whichever method of decision-making suits them at the time"That will still end up with a select few having power over others, which will bring in corruption anyway so we're no better off than under capitalism, except now yo do't even own anything."that working hours and conditions of work will be for the convenience of the workers"Work is not convenient - that's the whole point? A convenient work hour is zero. How do you arrive at convenient? There will always be people who will want to drag the total number down and down."education will be available life-long"How will teachers be paid? What if they also ask for short work hours? In that case, nothing of note would really ever be taught."so people have a chance to find what they are good at and enjoy doing."Wouldn't that end up with no one taking the menial jobs no one wants, like trash collecting and sewer cleaning?"Status can be won by social contribution"Wouldn't status imply privilege? What would status give?
"as money and the state’s enforcing role will become obsolete."So again, how do you have people work if they do not get anything in return? If you say that everyone would be provided with the basic necessities to survive, then nothing would motivate people to take really hard jobs, since they'd be guaranteed the necessities. And if there is no state, who enforces law and order? Who organises things between different communities? Who provides the jobs? Who votes on standards? Who would certify teachers and medics? And again - why would people work as either?"They've actually been brainwashed by capitalist media to think that."I'm from an ex-Soviet country. From everyone who grew up in the Soviet era, I know no one who had nothing negative to say about it."unjust police arrests and executions"lol implying they still don't do that to anyone who disagrees with the current system
I didn't downvote you though.
It seems someone's biased..I don't have time to answer all these questions separately. If you just want to make a point, write a MyTake
I was literally just responding to you. You can't expect to just be able to write an opinion and have no one respond.
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I'm personally not a communist but it is indeed odd to still find them out there.
Those weren't real communists.
@ThisDudeHere I really hope your eyes will be opened soon. I have nothing more to say. I know they brainwashed you but what can we do about it?
I'm not the one who's brainwashed here
@ThisDudeHere Say that in the face of all of those who were tortured in the Gulags, and all of those who lost their families there. Say that to the victims of the Cambodian genocide, those who saw the murder of their loved ones by the hands of Khmer Rouge. Say that to North Koreans who cannot escape the hell they are living. Say that to the Chinese people living slavery in Chinese factories today who cannot escape or complain! How many millions more have you just discarded?
That wasn't really communism, just totalitarianism. Communism is about equity.
@ThisDudeHere Hey, trolling is a bad thing :') No need to make a mess to make a point.
ya figured me out? :D
@ThisDudeHere Trust me, you imitated their behavior very well hahaha!
glad to hear lol
Perfectly stated. You said everything I would have if I’d bothered to put much effort into my answer.
Communism would guarantee those things too
I don't know about a Republic, but rule of law, and basic freedoms and rights, 100%.
And that is a lie.If you are going to be communist, why not just admit to its failings? Every attempt at communist stops at a dictatorship.Hmmm. . . why is that?Do citizens have freedoms and rights in China? You mean in old Soviet Union and now. . . present day Russia, you can voice opinions about the government?Get real man.
lol I'm actually kidding dude :D Read my reply to that anonymous chick. So far, she's the only actual pro-communist that commented here (thankfully, I guess). Good to see that you're of sane-mind too, despite our other differences
Dude, I have never met a single communist. Even overseas, I never knew one. And I was in Russia for a considerable amount of time.
They're mostly on the internet, I guess
I guess. And probably much fewer than we are lead to believe.Don't get me wrong. I met folks who like Putin and liked the Soviet Union. But that was because of nationalism. Not because of communism.
Exactly. Though some of them, especially over here in Eastern Europe, have some nostalgic feelings for the USSR. I have to admit - just a few things were a wee bit better during it, like being guaranteed a home and a work-place - even if both sucked.
Stalin was not a communist. He just wore that badge for ease of a power hungry tyrant.
@kingofthellamas Isn't it how it always is. The State just makes slaves out of their citizens with communism.
@kingofthellamas in my country, communism was good and actually improved people's quality of life. My parents are neutral on Stalin.
@Ryfyle america uses private prison slavery too all government is evil. I know 2 people lived under stalin. one said he was best leader russia ever had other said he put the countries progress at expense of millions of lives. ONLY place communism worked is cuba. Communism a last minute option when rich get too much money. im a liberatarian personally. @JessieBellll where you from
@israelisevil Slovakia, formerly Czechoslovakia
@israelisevil Cuba been turned into tourist theme park. (https://www. cnn. com/travel/article/cuba-coronavirus-lockdown-tourism/index. html) Boomer Disney Land only exists through capitalist dollars. Communism is the only option when the Rich want real power. Standard Oil funded the bolsheviks. Lenin grew up without knowing poverty.
To be fair, fascists also had a such policies so that's not a purely communist characteristic.
Yes, Facism and Communism are similar in many aspects. To be honest, TRUE Communism has actually never been implemented. The countries we call "Communist" are actually Socialist, but most people don't know that and I don't wanna confuse them so I just say Communism.
Fascism and communism are diametrically opposed. They are in no way similar.
@Exterminatore they are totalitarian though
Both are totalitarian but that’s about where the similarities end.Generally speaking, Fascism:1. Tends to be right wing.2. Social conservatism3. 3rd position economy - mixture of capitalism and socialism. Marriage of cooperate and government power4. Ultranationalism 5. Nation is stressed rather than the individual 6. Patriarchal 7. Militaristic in nature - warrior culture nationalized and promotedThat’s nothing like communism.
good one :D
The name you're probably looking for is mercantilism. It's when the government dictates trade.
You mean just had a big media black out and fudged the numbers.
Those people didn't live under actual communism.
Oh you're one of those, okay.
@ThisDudeHereAztec ritual sacrifices weren’t real because they failed to bring rain.
@Exterminatore lol good one :D
They didn't try true communism though
That is always the excuse used to explain the failure of every Communist regime to date they have had a dozen or more chances to make 'True communism' work.There are 6 communist countries that currently exist and all of them are on the bleeding edge of failure.
There'd be no reason for greed because there would be no money or positions of privilege. Everyone would be provided for.
Positions of privilege will always exist as long as social jeraechy exist, and social jerarchy will exist as long as we keep beign social animals that like to engage in organized groups. In order for a state to provide, there must be organization, so there must be a governmental institution. That government has the duty to organize society according to the desires and needs of the majority. Now, in order to society to function there's work to do, and each person has to take a role. Not everybody can get the same. For example, food is necessary but so is Healthcare. Not everybody can be farmers or doctors. In the same line, the government can't be empty, someone has to take the administrative role, organize and assure everything is well organized. But not everybody can take this role. The person in the administrative role is immediately in a position of power the rest of the society is not. So, the inevitable needed role of a leader, defy equal status, and automatically make more ambitious individuals crave for the position of power, but not all them will be able to satisfy their ambition, as the leading positions are very limited.
I made some grammar and spelling mistakes. I just noticed I mixed Spanish with English in some words. Sorry if it makes anyone's eyes bleed :/
No worries, I'm just trolling with my responses anyway, I'm not actually a communist :D
@ThisDudeHere It's the little thing called Power, The Party has it, the proletariat loses it after the Revolution. Communism just makes slaves out of their citizens.
that maybe so in theory but all communist countries that have existed until now had a upper-class with privileges. Greed will always be there.
No historical fact. I know people who lived it
They're just ignorant and ungrateful.
@ThisDudeHere denying the sufferings of hundreds of millions of people is not a morally good thing to do. http://martyredintheussr.com/about.html
@Psychoanalytical that's a fake news site
@ThisDudeHere For Chinese people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward
@ThisDudeHere For Cambodian people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide
@Psychoanalytical that's wikipedia dude. It can be edited by anone. The mods there are capitalists
I hope you're just trolling and not actually this retarded.
And you would be correct lol
On the former, that is
Russia was taken down by western imperialists whereas China is prosperous.
I see we have an Chinese propaganda agent here. I thought you guys only focused on Facebook and Twitter. Oh well, I guess the Chinese need to get their money worth out of you. No sane person would choose communism by choice.
No sane person would insist to continue living under the imperialist boot
lol okay, I'm actually kidding. Had the sudden desire to troll people here. Go read my reply to that anonymous girl
Yes because they all will be dead
Would you want someone to nationalize a local ma and pa flower shop?
Even in communist countries, ma and pa flower shops are independent because there is no CEO exploiting the worker
That's actually Italian Fascism/ National Socialism. The Germans tried that out in the nineteen thirties and got gutted in the forties.
But once they hire a helping hand, they technically become CEOs, no?
@Ryfyle Nazis were the opposite of socialists. They hated socialists. It was one of their main political pillars to destroy socialism, it was in the first pages of Hitler's Mein Kampf. They had capitalist tenders all the way into 1943, whereas even the UK went full socialist regulating even the production of buttons. Yeah you don't know your history.
If they hire a helping hand, then give themselves 400x the wage of the employee then yes you would be evil and need to be nationalised.
Why 400? Also, why should someone who sweeps the floor earn as much as the person who founded and maintains the business?
That was the average ceo exploitation. And of course not a doctor should make more than a janitor. But no ceo should make 1,000,000,000 dollars per year and live in the same country as someone who can’t even buy their kid lunch.
So your going to tell me that the Soviet Gulags were just summer camps for troubled youth? Why is that Socialism ends up degrading into communism, which in turn just leads to Party lead Feudalism. Socialists always enslave the proletariat to the State. Secondly, CEO's tend to get fired by the Companies Board of Directors if they are not attracting enough investors, and investors are quite finicky.
@Ryfyle this isn’t true, ceos get golden parachutes of millions of dollars if they are Teri me and fail and are kicked out of a company. Capitalism is broken. People in America die because they can’t afford insulin. Insulin is free or nearly free in every other developed country because they socialized healthcare. Socialism works in healthcare it works in education it works for sidewalks, firefighters, city parks, sewars. Socialism just works.
If you can't get Insulin or insurance, most states can get you on Medicaid super quick. If you're too retarded to do that, that's on you. The US Spends more money on Welfare, Social Services, and Medicaid than the Defense Budget. (http://federalsafetynet. com/entitlement-spending. html)You have to be an absolute moron not to be aware of this. If a single mom is working three fucking jobs, she's dumb as fuck on many critical levels.
@Ryfyle you do see that socialism is the future right? Almost nobody under the age of 30 likes capitalism anymore, no country on earth wants American style health care, every single other one wants free healthcare. The future is more socialism and less capitalism. And happiness will increase. Countries with the highest taxes and strongest socialized programs are the happiest. Why would you want to make more people unhappy?
Your future requires the enslavement of billions to work and a lethal explosion of mediocrity to sustain. The British NHS is on the brink of Collapse, Venezuela mixed socialism with Saudi Arabia amounts of oil and is still in a famine, And China is still a totalitarian hellscape. That Happiness is enforced with guns. That Happiness is mandatory poverty. You want to turn people into surfs. You want slaves to the state. You want a world filled with smiling lobotomites that cheer when one of their one gets shot in the streets for questioning the State. My Grandmothers Family fled Socialism for a good fucking reason. The only people that want Socialism are feel good Narcissists who think there going to have a nice office job with the state, above the filthy proles that have to be force to slave away in the fields. Most folks in their 20's are naive morons.
@Ryfyle not at all, by socialism I mean socializing programs like health, education, sidewalks, fire protection, electricity... very very few people want capitalist healthcare lol, it’s an absolute failure in the USA (the only country without socialized medicine). Socialism just works in Canada, Sweden, France, etc... your examples of dictatorships have nothing to do with Scandinavian style social programs which is what I’m walking about
If your to broke to get health insurance, you can sign up for medicaid, The State then covers your medical bills. The rest of your complaints are just simple Civil Services, do you think We don't have Roads in the rest of the US? Lastly, no one in the US has had to wait 8 weeks to receive Medical Care, Unlike Canadians and the British. Wanna know why the Scandinavians little programs are working so well? They got a relatively smaller population and are ethnically homogeneous. Final Example, Some British Plumber got his arm Snapped and the NHS had it canceled like four times, That doesn't happen here in the US. I Straight up hobbled into a Urgent Care facility, and then hobbled out of that same facility with a prescription in hand no cost to me when I was on Medicaid.www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...on-cancelled-times.htmlwww.fraserinstitute.org/.../waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2019www.theguardian.com/.../hospital-waiting-list-numbers-in-england-triple-since-lastLastly, wasn't Socialism more about giving the means of Production to the Working Class?
@Ryfyle lol are you a child, did you just link to both the daily mail (a trashy British tabloid) and the fraiser institute, a libertarians think tank that has been dismissed in court as so full of incorrect statements that it can't be used in court? That is your evidence? By the way, I'm in Canada and nobody here wants American style healthcare. They love their socialized medicine more than hockey, and that is saying a lot! I've never had to wait excessively long for anything in my whole life.
Congrats, you got real lucky getting your Canadian Check up on your sniffles. Secondly, Who are you to talk about American Issues then, whilst living in Canada? All you do is Parrot the same shit the rest of your Rich White Kids screech about from the comfort of their Parents McMansions. Privileged Canadian Tweens like yourself have no fucking right to Talk about my Country or My Socioeconomic plight. I'm telling you as a Man who had to live on Medicaid, Who could not Afford, normal Health Care, It's not that big of a fucking deal. If your Broke or Working at a Walmart and you need Health Insurance, Medicaid has you covered. Make A bit more and You can't get Covered? The ACA knocks a fuckload of the bill and you might just pay 20 a mount at the lowest. If someone Can't do that, they're an Absolute fuck up. You know what would really fucking help out the American Public, Factory Jobs and Trade Jobs. Domestic Production like they had in the 50's made a whole lot more things possible. However, Getting you're hands dirty is too much for today's Champagne Socialist, who get to live the life of luxury whilst preach the new Green Gospel. No one poor wants your College Communists bullshit, we want fucking jobs so we can work our way out of the shit pit your yuppie parents put us in. Fucking Go home.https://cmajnews.com/2020/08/28/access-qa-1095895/www.mirror.co.uk/.../torron-eeles-has-nhs-operation-to-fix-423596www.mirror.co.uk/.../torron-eeles-has-nhs-operation-to-fix-423596
@Ryfyle I'm not white, and I was born in the USA... you make a lot of assumptions you know that? You're an ass.
You sure do type like some Clown Haired Stacy. Secondly you live in Canada, Not in the States. If you have enough money to be an Expat, you can't talk for real Americans struggling to get by. You're effectively a Rich White liberal college girl who only knew luxury.
There's all of that under communism, if not even more of it. The US speech and press are controlled by the tech industry and MSM finansiers respectively.
Doubt it. Go to North Korea and run your mouth against their leader and see what happens to you?
*meant to say leave the U. S.
I'm not in the US for one. For two, North Korea is actually a pretty fine place www.youtube.com/watch
North Korea is fine www.youtube.com/watch
Lol people will say/do anything to prove their ideologies are right. Okay then.
Well if you're concerned about lazy ass people you'd probably want communism because if you didn't work you went to jail.
@Ad_Quid_Orator yeah but why would i spend 80 hours inventing something for example when i could just lazy do a half ass job for the standard 20 hour commie work week? Id also call sick as much as i could get away with. What a waste of my talent dont you think?
Because people are motivated by more than money:hbr.org/.../people-dont-need-a-profit-motive-to-innovate
@Ad_Quid_Orator well simply inventing a product for your own use is useless in communism. For example i just fabricated a custom part for my truck. What incentive would communism provide for me to make 10,000 of them and find people to distribute them etc etc? I mean i like working on my truck but short of a million dollar a year business im not interested in spending so much effort on making little metal widgets.
Well first of all you're projecting your attitude on everyone else but second, you are aware that communist countries have scientists and engineers that are paid to develop new technologies right?
Just like here in the US you have scientists and engineers developing new technologies in state run research facilities (which pretty much all the innovations made in the private sector have been piggy backing off of).
@Ad_Quid_Orator i was not aware in communism you could be paid extra. So how is it different than capitalism again?And yes i can attribute my attitude to other people. If other motivations were so powerful besides money why do most people immediately stop working as soon as they aren't paid? Why dont they just keep working and working for free because its fun? Lmfao.
Like if you got fired from a job you loved, im not aware of one person who loved it so much they offered to work for free.
It's different because you don't get to exploit the labor of others. Also, we're talking about innovating, not going to work and undergoing rinse and repeat tasks dumbass. You seem to have a delusional world view when all innovation is driven by private sector profit motives.
@Ad_Quid_Orator all innovation isn't. But all business activity is. Its one thing to invent the lightbulb. Its completely another to get thousands of people working together to manufacture and distribute them everywhere there is demand for them. Show me the article about how often that happens.
All business activity is in the US because that's the way our economic system works with corporate innovation piggy backing off of state research. But none the less there have been a series of innovations that were distributed in the USSR:www.inventions-handbook.com/...ian-inventions.htmlAnd to clarify I'm not a communist, I'm just saying it's better than the system of Laze Fair capitalism proposed by so called "libertarians" in the US.
@Ad_Quid_Orator but whether people are paid or not, if fun and fulfillment and recognition were enough, why aren't people building companies for those reasons? It shouldn't matter if we live in capitalism since the money is irrelevant.
Because people who run companies are in it for the money and they aren't for the most part, the people who develop new innovations; rather they just exploit them for their benefits.
@Ad_Quid_Orator but without the business, innovation is useless. You can invent an iphone but if you dont setup factories and gather workers and get retailers to display the product to the right people your invention doesn't do anything. So why dont people to that for free?
If there is no other way to distribute your innovation besides business, then it it useless but in communist countries there are other means besides businesses to spread innovations. And people don't do it for free for the same reason they work: they need an income to survive but to say that unless people could make millions off innovations, they wouldn't innovate is pure fantasy because may innovations came out of communist countries.
@Ad_Quid_Orator again back to innovation. When you have a new product, who is going to do the work of setting up the possibly thousands of people to deliver it? Manufacturing shipment final consumer education customer support... who is going to set that whole system up for free, or should i say for the same benefits as cashier at a grocery store? As communism rewards everyone equally.
Actually wages do vary within communist countries and they already have a system of distribution that doesn't involve corporations; they have state bureaus.
@Ad_Quid_Orator how would state bureaus decide what is worth distributing and what isn't? It would be entirely left to a human to decide, in which case many burecrat might not know when a particular invention is better than another one and thus deserves priority.In a capitalist system, the market naturally makes that decsion without some big daddy government telling the citizens what's worth producing and what isn't - the citizens buy what they need and, subsequently, the thing they buy will remain.
They can't "know" but they can analyze market data and make and informed decision on the matter (at least more informed than the market). The free market (contrary to popular views in the US) isn't some elegant system that autocorrects and it's riddled with inefficiencies.
Who would those be?
China is very rich but the USSR wasn't real socialism/communism, hence why they failed.
@ThisDudeHere 2 can play this game. No one has loved under true capitalism therefore we should take ep trying capitalism till we get it right
China isn't communist
Do some research before you reply
Chia is run by communist party dummy
What is ''us guys''?
Former Soviet nations
Nah just observations from people from these countries. Their culture is far different than the Western culture
If you think that I'm so ignorant, why do you keep inviting me to questions you know I'd disagree with?
I never said you are ignorant, where did you see it? I invite you exactly because I know you disagree and get triggered by my questions hence you could provide a good entertainment for me. I love to argue.But I do that with several people, not just you.
You literally called my entire region ignorant. Since I live here, that includes me.And lol funny you think I'm triggered. Triggered means to have an uncontrollable emotional reaction. If anything, you were closer to being triggered by me
You see, that was wrong.I would say most people but not alll!!!I have great from former Soviet nations. But why would I be triggered?
@JessieBelll Dont waste your time. He is a Chinese Proganda agent. He is being paid by the Chinese government to argue with you. You can tell by his profile. These people are all over social media sites.
I'm mean ”people”.
@FCDALLASFAN hahaha. I know him for years, I think he is just an average Latvian with some strange views on genders, but I believe he just goes by his past experience. Everyone does that. He is quite old fashioned.
I don't know. 26942 followers and not a celebrity or hot chick. That is usually one of the first red flags. 😂 😂
You are right ThisDudeHere
how ignorant and stereotypical vision of the issue is. 1) The USSR had no relation to communism. just decipher the abbreviation of the USSR. 2) communism is a theoretical (utopian) economic and social model invented by a German) As for gender roles: in the Soviet Union, women worked on an equal footing with men in factories and construction sites. Both genders were absolutely equal. Absolutely equally oppressed by the regime)) About other crap: what about crap in USA regarding the right's of afro-americans before 70's?
@StrikeJam good points dude (I was trolling by the way, not actually communist :D )
Ah yes the Slavic Gopnik. Purveyor of robocalls, questionable opiates, human trafficking, and all in an Adidas Track suit. Classy.
@Ryfyle if I were a consumer of soy, I'd be offended at being called a slav lol
@ThisDudeHere Nah, Still to white.
@ThisDudeHere You simple Child. Still have yet to figure it out.
@Ryfyle what are you talking about?
@ThisDudeHere Your in Latvia, you really wouldn't get it.
@Ryfyle humour me
Being Latvian it would be safe to assume that you are white. In this world of social progress, where many consumers of Soy dabble, you are the Incarnation of Satan. Your guilty of Original Sin and some how responsible for all the evils of the past due in part to you being born white. If you reside in the US and live near a major metropolitan area; questioning this sacred truth is Blasphemous and a hoard of Soy blessed white people will come to set fire to your immediate surroundings. Be glad you live in eastern Europe.
@Ryfyle Being ah okay, I get it now. Yeah, I heard this to be the case in the US. Pretty odd
@ThisDudeHere Most of this shit pops of from Colleges. Hire Education is pretty bullshit in the States.
@Ryfyle you guys have been taken over by communist insurgents trained by the USSR in the 60s. You ought to figure out how to oust them.
@ThisDudeHere Kinda old news. The real trick is to separate them from there financial backers.
Or maybe introduce some system of transparency so that parents and whomever can tune into lectures to see the drivvel that their kids are being fed
@ThisDudeHere It's so soaked in you would need cameras and sensors literally everywhere. Funny thing, Socialism is always pushed by the rich and privileged.
Yes, actually. I always wondered about it. Everyone always throws up theory but not how it would really function. There's this youtube channel that creates simple simulations using blobs in place of humans - I'd like to see them try simulating blobs (with human characteristics) living in a communist system.
if you want to see how it actually works just look at history. the government controls everything and if you disagree with them or do something they don't like your dead
Those weren't real communists
The fuck they weren't! "Oh last time we tried 10s of millions were needlessly slaughtered? Let's try again anyway only THIS time I'LL do it!" FUCK. You. You FUCKING fuck.
lol chill dude, read my reply to that one anonymous chick, I'm just trolling :D
But that wasn't real communism
Like I said Aztec ritual sacrifices weren’t real because they failed to bring rain.Communism is so out. Fascism is in.