Now our government is considering giving people $1500 as a stimulus check if you get vaccinated. Since the vaccine hasn't been studied if there are any long term effects of not, they will pay you to take the vaccine. The scientists have said that they are going to be researching the vaccine for 24 months after the vaccine gets released to the public. Does $1500 sound worth it to be their guinea pig? I'm sure to you young people $1500 sounds like a lot. In the real world though, $1500 is basically one month of rent. Their attempt at trying to bribe me isn't going to work. To me, this raises even more red flags about getting the vaccine.
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You bet your ass it is, for even half that much. rats like you are best given up to covid anyway. Cheaper rent and less problem neighbours for others, that way.
But more Americans die from paracetamol and narcotics than do from vaccines. Yet most of the rats are more scared of vaccines than narcotics.
The long term effects of Covid are not known either. It can lead to Kawasaki disease in kids, and damage to lung, heart and kidney in adults, even those who recover from it. In other words, you can be paying long term premiums and costs, and many not even get insurance cover at all because of health conditions caused by contracting covid. With the vaccine you at least have a chance of claiming you were not a complete ass and did try to stop it's spread.
Hence your assertion on the vaccine is moot. Vaccines are all made in a similar way, it's their testing that takes 10-15 years. With these CV19 vaccines they've tested hundreds of thousands over a short period, across countries, with few bad effects. This way they can be sure nothing major is wrong with it. Sure there are always exceptions, no medicine exists which does not have side effects and exceptions. People are all different, after all.
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They're tossing around the idea because people like you exist.
It's an era of the erosion of expertise, shit like being generally informed about how a vaccine works, something we've known how to do for decades, is now suddenly up in the air. "It's the right thing to do to keep people from dying and we've been doing them safely for ages" isn't enough anymore, so they went with a theory that accurately bases the average American as uninformed, self-centered, stupid, and "millionaires in the making" but currently actually poor
People like me actually do their research. There is a lot to worry about actually. Maybe you should take a look at this article. m.washingtontimes.com/.../
EVERY vaccine has similar side effects, your immune system is being revved into gear, NONE of which are worse than your lungs not working the same or DYING from complications with said lungs from the infection, you absolute twit
The research you do does fuck all if YOU suddenly decide people who have a doctorate and decades of experience in a given field of expertise means fucking nothing because what they say doesn't fit the bias you fucking came in with
A vaccine takes around 5-10 years of development/testing before it's approved to be disturbed to the public. This covid19 vaccine was developed in 7-8 months. This has potential to go really , really wrong. It's called common sense. People who take this vaccine is taking this vaccine going in blind. They have no clue what will happen to their bodies after taking the virus. Researchers are going to be studying what happens years after its distributed.
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This is all about economics. The economy will not rebound until the pandemic is under control. The two are linked. The federal government has borrowed trillions, and is considering another $900 billion, just to keep the country afloat. That can’t continue. The $1500 bribe is a sign of how desperate things are. If the public largely rejects the vaccine, then the pandemic will continue and you’ll start seeing states shut down essential services and businesses closing permanently. The damage will be severe and long lasting. Is there risk to this vaccine? Absolutely but the country is in a real bind, so I understand the urgency behind the vaccine push.
I don’t entertain conspiracy theories. I prefer facts and reality. In my state (and most states), businesses have largely been open for months but revenue is way down because many people are staying home out of concern for their own health and that of their families. It’s not the government keeping them home. They’re choosing to. I go far fewer places than I used to. It’s valid to question the safety of a vaccine that has been tested for months rather than years but the country and the economy can’t wait years. So I’ll reluctantly take the vaccine and do my part. Staying mired in the status quo isn’t a good option.
There is a depopulation agenda this is why they gave people DNRs at hospitals all over the world during this that is fact not a conspiracy theory. You can use that word all you want but dismissing the truth only hurts in the end when you wake up to the truth. The vax is gonna hurt a lot of people and they are doing this on purpose.
That is the very definition of a conspiracy theory... a belief in a covert circumstance or event without credible evidence. You’re the gift that keeps on giving.
what I fine it funny! is china the one that started. how's everything like it never happen? they don't have to get any shot or anything!! because they did the lockdown... while here people don't care and thinkntjrnviruz is not real... now we need shots but many won't take it🖥⏱
I'm considered to be in a "high risk" group, but I am willingly surrendering my 'dose' to some child, or some elderly person! I have been fine, for 10 months, and being safe! I don't know if I trust this mRNA thing, as a vaccine, and them being able to maintain the cold chain. I have a Biology degree, and understand this, completely. Too short of an evaluation period, for me, personally (DON'T let my opinion change your desire to have the vaccine! I am overly cautious!!!). It is probably totally fine, and will do AMAZING THINGS, and save thousands of lives!
Christ in heaven that's a red flag. Along with the fact that the Pfizer vaccine is using a potentially dangerous new kind of vaccine that hijacks your cells to produce the protein that is the actual active ingredient.
The main risk is triggering a lethal auto immigration response called a cytokine storm. Additionally the foreign RNA may cause damage to host cell DNA, which could present as mutation, sterility or cancer.
This is not the same technology as past vaccines in fact it has more in common with the T Virus from pop fiction.
So no way in hell am I going to volunteer for that. Really creepy that this policy targets the poor. My worst case scenario radar is screaming that this stinks of eugenics.
Yea, so EU health officials have noticed that these mRNA vaccines prevent placental implantation. So they may well be rendering women who get this barren. Fuck
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Propaganda BS. There's no way in hell they would actually go through with that (to that extent at least), especially with the expectation that the vaccine will become an annual thing much like the flu shot, whether it's actually necessary or not.
And I personally have no intention of messing around with a vaccine for a disease that has an over 99% survivability and recovery rate for my age and health group.
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When you have many bills to pay or you are like me and you have to pay for tuition and regular bills like groceries and what not 1500 sounds like not enough. Even my university was giving out way more money than that to students due to covid. I think they should try making it higher to really give people motivation since some people have a family to take care
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1500 doesn't even cover rent in most big cities.. certainly not for my place... n I think its very sketchy for them to be offering money... thats like them offering money to people to take all meds... smh... do they? No. What is even more upsetting is thats all they are offering. Sorry, my life is worth more than 1500
Does this have anything to do with the supposed 2nd stimulus check? I was hoping everyone would be getting another $1200 check from the government. Is this separate or in place of? In other words you won't get anything unless you take the vaccine? Would people not get any extra unemployment benefits unless they got the vaccine also? Something doesn't quite seem fair here.
Yes, IF it happens, this is going to be how they will distribute the second stimulus check. If you don't get the shot then you won't get your check
jennifer_bloom | 2.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
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I won't risk my health for money but on the other hand - the risk of dying from CoVid might be higher than the risk of getting vaccinated so I would definitely want the vaccine
It is highly unlikely that you will die from the virus. The chances are very slim. There's about a 2% chance that you will die from the virus. In fact 80% of the people who catch the virus show no symptoms at all. www.pedestrian.tv/.../
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Nope...
It's also never a good idea to be get the first rounds of vaccines.. Watch 5-10 years from now you'll see random class action lawsuit commercials stating that if you got a certain vaccine in 2020-2021 for COVID and you experience blah blah blah symptoms you're entitled to blah blah blah.
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it’s insane. When are people going to wake up and start asking why governments all around the globe are so insistent that everyone take this vaccine!!
Governments are pushing it, big pharma is getting Uber rich form it and big tech is censoring anyone that even questions it! We used to call that combination of corporations and government... FACISM! But now we cheer and clap and thank big brother for saving us from the Virus with a 99.9% survival rate!!!
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I haven't heard anything about this but ofc I'll be ready for vaccine as soon as it's ready ... give me money cool but I mostly care about not getting sick. Having seen people I know suffering from China virus is enough for me
I know around 15 people who have had the infection of China and none of them died thank heaven but one were hospitalized and was suffering very much and she still has symptoms and can't sleep well because of breathing etc
Is it true that most of china is back to normal now? I know in wuhan they had a massive rave party recently there with thousands of people in the crowd
Sounds crazy but I guess the ones that didn't die are now probably more or less immune. During the plague in I don't know 1658 or whatever most rich people fled London. When they came back they got infected while the people who never left didn't have any problems
Glad to hear your friend lived though. I have a friend in france who got it pretty bad and lived too. The virus isn't fake no but it's not as dangerous as it's made out to be either
Here's what is happening in Wuhan after the pandemic hit there. Crazy how they are partying it up while we are all going back into lockdowns https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4LwLDiRHE
Well what do you expect. They are Chinese. They are used to crashing the whole world and pretending that it was an accident or something like we saw in tv just Saturday morning those marketing where it usually starts are up and running even now as we are battling the last pandemic they spread I say we poison the rices from now
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I would do it for nothing. Tens of thousands of people have received the vaccine with no adverse side effects IIRC. I understand what the vaccine is and how it works, so I'm not worried about it and happy for whatever protection it provides.
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The vaccine has passed every normal study required to start the vaccination program. Saying that they will "keep researching it for 24 months after the vaccine gets released to the public" is like saying bears shit in the forest. They always do that. Studying the effects of medication is normal.
Sounds pretty desperate. They also said they were going to have Bush, Obama, and Clinton all get the shot on live TV to convince Americans it's safe.
Honestly, I think if all the Americans who trust those three fuckers were to keel over and die, plus their children, that would be like the best thing that ever happened to this country.
Anyone who criticises their country is actually a patriot, for they want to see it improve (presumably). Plus they have a right not to be harassed, ill-treated and abused in their own country.
The good news guys is that you will not be forced to take a vaccine when they are available! If you don't want it, don't get it. If they were to offer $1500 to those who get the shots so what it a choice.
@katiesmuff That's fine as long as it stays a choice, on the other hand, how much of a choice is it if you need to prove you took the shot in order to work, in order to shop, in order to leave your home?
Inch by inch they creep closer and closer to making vaccines mandatory. Is this the excuse they've been waiting for to make that FINAL PUSH?
All I know is, any friendly neighborhood SWAT team that tries to put me in a FEMA camp to get vaccinated against my will is going to be one step behind me in Hell.
@katiesmuff No you are the dimwit not us. You are not saving anybody you moron. You are instead taking away our rights and letting the government enslave us and the vaccine is gonna hurt many people because of idiots such as yourself.
@katiesmuff Save lives? The survival rate for covid without a vaccine is 99.98% The survival rate for covid among all patients who have received the experimental vaccine, is only 90%
How the fuck are you going to save lives with a vaccine that is more deadly than no vaccine at all?
You think you're smart because you're listening to smart people, but they're lying to you because you're not smart, you're dumb. Understand?
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woooow that is messed up. big pharma surely has the money enema deep in the politicians rectums. get paid to take part in the biggest global human experiment in history... would make up for a messed up dystopic movie... hard to believe that this is the reality we live now.
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I was going to get the vaccine anyways. Now I get $1500 for it? Hell yeah.
Seriously though this just proves the government could've given people money this whole pandemic but chose to protect corporations.
@leftis25 Your birth was registered. Your school was allocated by where you live. You've had a National Insurance record since you were 16. HMRC know where you work and how much you earn. The Council and utility companies know where you live. DVLA know where you live and how good a driver you are. Your doctor has a complete record of your health since birth. You carry a phone with GPS that can track your location to within inches. Your supermarket loyalty card knows what you buy. Your internet activity is monitored so adverts and other content can be tailored just for you.
But yeah, let's purposely create a deadly virus and kill over a million people just so Bill Gates can put a microchip in a vaccine so he can see what you're doing!
First off all the virus is not deadly. Ebola was deadly Spanish flu was deadly This is not even a flu its pathetic Second of all u will get tones òf side effects that will follow u for the rest of your life and also u will never be able to hide anything from anyone.. the vaccine is RNA if know what that means.. and honey u dont know me.. i live on an island not in mass cities.. Even your kids and your grandkids will be affected because of this vaccine.. and yes they want to control u of course. The rich become richer and the poor more poor.. classic
@leftis25 So, let's see: 1. The last major ebola outbreak killed 11, 300 people; COVID-19 has killed 1,530,000 people and shows no signs of stopping. If that doesn't count as "deadly" then I don't know what does. 2. RNA vaccines (well, mRNA vaccines) do exactly the same thing as standard vaccines, but they code your cells to produce the protein that triggers an immune response, rather than inserting that protein directly. There is no evidence to suggest that they are dangerous in any way, shape, or form, and they're a hell of a lot better than dying of COVID. 3. Both the government and corporations are perfectly capable of tracking you already, as @1truekhaleesi already pointed out. Do you genuinely believe that you are so important that this secret cabal of world leaders would kill millions of people just to track you - which, again, your phone alone already does?
@leftis25 I take care of covid patients. I saw a 30 year old with no co-morbidities get intubated last night. The same people saying that a 0.9% death rate from COVID-19 is 'no big deal' are the ones saying we can't risk rare adverse events from a vaccination that occur at a rate of 0.005% and are non life-threatening. Scientist have been studying mRNA vaccines for a while so we have a head start. The reason vaccines take so long is because of a lack of funding.
@Daedelus 95% of covid deaths are fake soo dont talk tovme about this shit... everyone i know who has this said its like a flu or even better than a flu. My friend is a doc at sweden with covid cases and everyone goes out of hospital just fine.. stop watching tv pls.. and ebola had soo low deaths because it wasn't all over the world. and it would really kill you soo u didn't have time to pass it to someone else.
@leftis25 everyone you know? Oh well that's it. Greg over here says it's fake. I'll just take off my PPE and forget this 50 year old patient I got who is intubated. I've seen people get intubated over this disease but the people you know have been fine, so screw it.
You don't know how to read a death certificate but let me give you the run down. Let's say you or someone you know has congestive heart failure. With the proper treatment and medication, you'll still have a long happy life. Then you get sick and die from covid. That is still a covid death, because if it wasn't for covid you'd still be living a happy life.
nah. I've heard stories of people having serious health problems for the rest of their lives in testing medicine. 1500 isn't worth it in my opinion.
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Kaneki05 | 1.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
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Only idiots are gonna take this vaccine. even a top activists for vaccination say taking a vaccine without a lot of testing especially before 4 years is dumb af.
Hell no there isn't enough money to make me take this ridiculous shot i dont take the flew shot either there not putting any of there poison in me. If you really think just because you take it you won't get it i have some ocean front property in Arizona i will sell you. The stupid democrats can go piss up a rope
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For many people, the alternative to vaccination is either isolation or death. You need to get paid to turn down those alternatives?
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