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- Somewhat, but it's also selfish to force somebody else to wear something that makes them uncomfortable in order to marginally protect against a disease that isn't much worse than the flu.3|74|8Is this still revelant?
... that happens to be killing people right now because the flu has active vaccinations that they've had out now for decades, and isn't an illness that shuts down one's organs, but they're still trying to get a handle on the vaccine for Coronavirus. Until that time, no, it's NOT not worse than the flu.
Covid destroys your Lungs, Kidneys, and white blood cells. You DON'T want to get it.
We don't know the long-term repercusions of the damage it does to organs, which may be PERMANENT in some cases even if you survive it. Viral Pneumonia can cause permanent lung damage and COPD, and you could have organ failure, especially Kidneys, and you could have total immune system failure, and then die from the common cold evne if you survive the Covid.
This is not a joke. My mother caught Covid and was hospitalized because of it, and I thnk I caught it back in March of 2020, and was the SECOND sickest I've ever been in my life because of it.
You will cough your guts out over and over, and you may even cough up blood and chunks of your lungs if you get a bad enough case of it.
Anyone claiming the death toll is over-exaggerated is a liar too. They are only reporting deaths verified by autopsy or blood test to be Covid cases, so if anything the real death tol is MORE than what is being reported.
Masks have been shown to reduce transmission by 50%, not a "marginal" benefit as you falsely claimed. In terms of multiple generations of exponenetial growth, a 50% decrease in the rate of transmission adds up to a huge difference across several months or years.
This pandemic is going to last several years before they get it under control world wide, and the Death Toll could exceed the Spanish Flu before it is totally under control. The virus is already mutating strains that MAY be somewhat resistant to the first round of vaccines, so eventually they'll need a 4 strain vaccine to give people enough immunity to the virus... just like the flu or bacterial phneumonia (23 strains).
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@Wade8888 Buddy, I've known middle aged men who have been hospitalized because of splinters. Just because <5% of people have bad cases of covid doesn't mean everyone else will. My brother had it and he was in bed for a couple days before going back to work. The survival rate is 99.998% or something like that and the only reason the flu has less is because it actually has a vaccine and we have an immunity to it already.
Most people who get covid report to have been frequent mask wearers. A piece of cloth over your mouth and nose doesn't matter fuck-all when you're touching doorknobs and then eating a sandwich.
And instead of people who are afraid of covid forcing things onto the people who aren't afraid of it maybe the people afraid of it can just stay inside themselves and let everyone else carry on with their business.Probably means the lingering stuff... The weeks later troubles of breath and taste etc. Plus the stuff that seems to pop up months after the actual infection is gone. U know like aftershock. Come after... It's not that hard.
The greatest country in the world where I live is currently doing a huge study on it.
- More likely, it makes them informed. There is no study on the planet that shows that masks will stop something as small as a virus. It is is nothing but meaningless virtue signalling.2|52|7Is this still revelant?
In that case please accept an article with links to few studies from (another) planet healthline. com/health/cold-flu/mask#research
That's just flat out wrong. There are a number of studies into it that conclude masks should be worn.
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@normnor which is exactly the point, and it always was. I personally feel that has been communicated far too poorly to the public. Lots and lots of people are under the impression that the mask is supposed to stop the single virion, which would indeed be stupid since they can be around 50 nanometers in diameter
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1946- Yeah. I’ve had quite an experience over the summer as someone who enforced masks in an establishment. These people are selfish and stubborn personalities. They’ve used it to identify with a certain political stance, and they want to be disruptive and rebellious. All they’re being is ignorant and immature.4|73|7
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No one is holding a gun to Karen’s or Steve’s head forcing them to be at Target to buy that lamp shade at 9 am on a Saturday. But oh no, they’re “bored” so that’s why they came out, but don’t you dare ask them to put a mask on because “muh rights.” 🙄
- Why should I risk my own health by wearing a mask? I don't need a lowered efficiency immune system because I breathe CO2 trapped between my mouth and the mask back in, instead of fresh O2, thank you very much, not to mention the strain on my lungs.
If anything people need to start learning science. If they did they would've started applying techniques that give people conscious control of the immune system, like the Wim Hof Method. Put simply, the WHM makes your body release Epinephrine, which in turn leads to increased production of Interleukin-10 and other anti-inflammatory agents in the body while at the same time it dampens the pro-inflammatory Cytokine response. Also the accompanying hyperventilation floods the blood with oxygen and also results in a higher number of white blood cells. The white blood cells fight disease and the oxygen ensures faster recovery.
So as a net effect, you don't get sick; if you do have some mild symptoms you recover much faster. And more importantly, you do not get inflamed lungs and you don't DIE from pneumonia when you have Coronavirus!
Stop wearing masks and teach people some science so they stop dying. The studies were published a decade ago, and T'ummo has been in practice for thousands of years by the Tibetan. There's nothing new about it. Haven't people noticed that they live in the tallest mountain range on Earth 5000m above sea level in the ice and snow and all they ever wear is a single piece of cloth? And you people live in tropical climates and you catch the flu. Nepal is right next door to China, yet the number of Covid-deaths per million people is 65 in the country, 118th place in the world. Less than 2,000 dead out of 30M. While on the other side of the planet, Peru also has 30M people, the difference is that they have 40,000 covid-deaths. Wonder why. And this insane ratio doesn't even put Peru in the top 10!https://www.youtube.com/embed/mxCGDFlH1_k0|40|3No one is telling you to wear a mask 24 hours a day. We're supposed to only be going out when it's necessary. So let's say you need to go to the store for 20 minutes. You leave the house, you get out of the car, put the mask on for the 20 minutes, leave, go back to your car, take it off. For the remainder of the 23 hours and 40 minutes of the day, you can breathe your fresh air. It's not a tall order.
- YES! I had Covid-19 this summer and it was the most painful thing I have ever experienced in my life. I also have asthma so if I ended up with scarring in my lungs from it I would have been severely disabled with a much shorter life span.
I saw my grandparents while I was contagious and I didn't know yet but we socially distanced and wore masks so now I still have grandparents. If you think it's "just like the flu." you need to stop living in denial. It is terrifying and painful and the symptoms last for months for most people.
Your lungs ache in the most disturbing way and you start gasping for breath. Then when you think the worst of it is over you get even worse. For me, it was a migraine that felt like my eyes were being scooped out with a hot spoon while my head was being squished in a vice. I threw up three times from the pain and then went into shock and passed out.
When I got to the hospital they had to give me so much pain medication that I was totally high and I had to have a chest X-ray immediately because if my lungs had been permanently damaged I would have needed assistance breathing and possibly a double lung transplant. There are young healthy teenagers who have needed new lungs because of this virus, it's all up to luck.
I am young, healthy, active, and I don't smoke and this virus put me through absolute hell. You may think you are tough and strong and it's just the flu but you have no idea what it would do to you. Everyone is different and a lot of it is sheer luck whether you will live, be permanently disabled, or die once you get it.
I don't know what I would have done if I had caused the agonizing deaths of my grandparents just because I was too stubborn to wear a mask. Is the whatever frivolous political point you are trying to prove really worth human lives? The virus is no joke and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.0|31|4Wow. I'm sorry to hear you sorry. Thanks sharing it. I hope things get better for you.
The vast majority of people who get covid don't have symptoms as bad as yours, you thick dimwit
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@Stephen_77 Mine were still in the mild-moderate category. Part of me wishes you'll get it because I doubt anyone will be able to reason with you until you actually suffer yourself.
I have natural treatments, so I'm not afraid of the virus. And like I said, the majority of people don't have symptoms as bad as yours, dummy.
@Stephen_77 a lot of people do, you twat. Stop making dumb comments you think dimwit. Watch less YouTube you moron.
@kimbim maybe you should give CNN a break once in a while, you god damn ass clown.
@Bratsondanielle. Yup. The laughing stock of Europe. Of course they technically ain't no part of Europe no more lol.
@kimbim lol I love to see the part of the conversation that I haven't blocked yet lol
@Kingofkings1992 I'll try to translate her into more easily reading for you king. She means that she can see some of the replies, and just loves to know that what she can't see is not even remotely interesting to her. I cannot explain it more simply so I hope you understand. Otherwise we'll have to have dawsonnata elaborate further for you. Oh and by the way she can't see what you tell her u know? Surely even you understand that if you use all your brain. You can close your eyes if it helps.
@kimbim @Kingofkings1992 I obviously have no idea who it is since I can't see it. It isn't the king of spades here thou.
Anyway how are wife and son kimbim? Dogs and house? Do you still drive that purple mustang?Hey. Wife and kid are both fine, and yes, I'll drive my mustang gt until it falls apart. I love that car. Bought a new truck for the wife though. We still have the same house yes, but we are actually looking to buy a new home soon. We found one in the country, and it's 300,000 dollars which is what we have. We're gonna sell the apartment we own in the city.
How are you guys? by the way I think it's probably Steve from British countries you block. I just thought it was king of spades but they are aprox equally intelligent so...@kimbim u mention Steve 77 few times framed by block bars so it's probably right...
Yeah were good. Still in the same house. I didn't get the demon but I got a ram lol
But we're good. Busy but@Bratsondanielle yeas stebo GB pyramids pilot illuminati flatearthers yeah... twat..
But good you are good.
Take care
- Well, not really. Wearing a mask to protect yourself from a widespread virus, is like treating ADHD with cough syrup or caffeine. It helps but only about 10-15%.
Now a lot of people state that 'experts' say a mask is very effective. Some experts do say that while others disagree. There is probably not a single thing that every expert agrees on in the field of biology, psychology, physics, and others.
Society in general (especially if they are not scientists themselves) treat science as if it's a religious book that is meant to be followed without thinking for yourself. Science is evergrowing, and truth is always relative. The sign of an open mind is skepticism, not fear, obedience, and paranoia. One of the most respected psychologists (Erik Erikson) did not even have a degree, think about that for a second.
But you are probably looking at those big numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, and worrying all the time, ignoring the fact that there isn't a reliable test out there for Covid-19, and most deaths are related to Covid-19, they aren't because of Covid-19.
So what does it all mean?
1. It means that no one really knows who has Covid-19 and who does not.
2. It means that the deaths you are seeing are deaths that probably would've happened, no matter if there was a virus out there or not. Covid-19 simply hastened the death of those poor people maybe by a few months, or an year.
So, misreading data, panicking, harassing, fear mongering, and using a virus to attack political opponents isn't something you should do, not doing those things would be you ACTUALLY being a responsible citizen!0|10|11. You don't wear a mask to protect yourself. You wear a mask to proty others from you.
2. In my country currently 1000 per day are dying from it. That's not trivial.My numberings are not meant to marry yours. Mostly because your argument is articulate but lacking in scientific grounds.
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Think of science as a house built on sand, not a solid foundation. Facts do not exist in science, relative truths do. By treating science as if it's a religious book, you are doing science a kind of disservice.
- Yes, it's selfish. Someone not wearing a mask is basically saying, "You are alright to protect me against your germs, and that's great and everything, but while you do that, I'll go on breathing fresh air and being comfortable."
I equate this to employee-scabs who cross picket lines. While people are taking a stand against a terrible employer who isn't paying them enough or their workplace is lacking what most people benefit from, they will sacrifice pay to stand outside and strike - only to have some co-worker scabs who cross the picket line to go to work and get paid, only to later reap the benefits of those who sacrificed.
So yes, it's not a tall order to wear a mask for a few minutes when you're in close quarters someplace. By all means, go ahead and take it off when no one is within several meters, but otherwise, yes, it's selfish to do it, and it's only prolonging the problem.2|50|4 - All those things anti-maskers warned about are coming to pass.
Namely, stricter and indefinite lockdowns
Wholesale destruction of civil liberties.
Health and vaccination passports being planned
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/01/05/apps-now-being-developed-for-global-vaccine-passport.aspx
Further redirection of wealth from poor to rich.
@rjroy3 is right. The word selfish is being used as a tool of control. Good behaviour should come from one's conscience, never from social pressure. And anything that is destructive to oneself (such as mask wearing) is never good for society.0|40|1 - I like to make distinctions. There's self interest, enlightened self interest and selfish.
Selfish is when you do something good for you that is at the detriment of others.
Enlightened self interest is mutually beneficial situations.
Self interest is when it was in your interest to do so but never hurt anyone.
I consider this self interest at worse, enlightened self interest in some cases. The state imposing measures on the people is only doable if too many people bend to them.
With enough people refusing to do so the people win and the state loses. So in that case some people refusing to wear masks is good for everyone for the sake of preserving our freedoms.
In most cases it's merely self interest, because unless they have covid the mask is providing no unique benefit for guarding others from covid. Therefore this is not a selfish act.0|20|1Too many people misuse the term "selfish" that it's worth breaking things down this way. Because many a person calls something selfish as a means to emotionally manipulate you to do what they want
@rjroy3 Um, no. Manipulation is just manipulation. Selfishness is selfishness (root word of 'self'). Here's the definition of 'selfish' from Merriam-Webster:
1: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others
2: arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others
a selfish act
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/selfish
There's nothing in there about getting people to do something you want. It's about doing something only *you* want.@Ozanne the "without regard for others" means uo to the detriment of others. Which is what I'm talking about.
People often say selfish just because it's something good for you but doesn't benefit them even tho it doesn't hurt them. They do so for the most part to manipulate your emotions to get you to do what they want.
And yes people just call something or someone selfish to manipulate. Is that true in all cases? No. Does selfishness exist? Yes. Never said it didn't.
You may disagree with respect to not wearing masks being selfish or not. But you have no argument regarding my point that oftentimes people use shame to control others. This is a known reality.
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Choosing to not wear a mask means you are choosing to not help control the spread of the virus. That's selfish in most people's view.
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Yes sure. If the only person you could hurt was yourself, I wouldn't care. BUT it's fucking *contagious* which means you can infect, sicken, and kill others. Your rights END when you can do this to others through your own goddamn selfishness.
@msc545 you’re overplaying the severity of the virus. There is nothing scary about 99 percent survival rate.
@msc545 yeah I’ll let you know when I’m on the ventilator. 😂 Most of those deaths are just people that died with the virus, not from it, you god damn sheep.
@msc545 you can't argue with these idiots. Their low IQ levels are too much to handle and they just regurgitate whatever narrative they heard on YouTube
@dawsonnata says the girl who regurgitates everything she hears off of CNN. You are clown.
@Kingofkings1992 I'm sorry for being such a clown. Here is a piece I wrote.
Covid compared to mers and SARS, the previous novel Corona viruses ↗
Show me some of your genius work oh king of kings@dawsonnata oh yes. You’re so educated and so intelligent. I just pale in comparison to your superior knowledge.
@dawsonnata oh sweetie you don’t understand sarcasm too well, do you? I’d be willing to bet my whole bank account that you don’t know the first thing about supporting yourself or being an adult in the real world.
Well if I told you the truth you'd just say "yeah you're making it up " so I can't really win can i
Agenda 2020/2030 Etc. Not a thing!!! ↗
Here is a piece I wrote in like 15 minutes using half my brain
Let me see some of your work@dawsonnata some of my work? Lol. I’m not a student. I’m a man that supports himself and a baby girl. I also don’t feel the need to validate myself to some random person on the Internet, because I’m not insecure unlike you.
Did you even read that stuff I linked you to? Do you seriously think you're smarter than me? Like really dude? If I were insecure I probably wouldn't write WORK like that and link "omg I'm a real man I work " like you to it u think? So what if you work. I know a dimwit who works at taco bell too. Maybe you know each other
@dawsonnata I never said anything about being smarter than you. You were the one that claimed that. Which I seriously doubt. I’m done with this back-and-forth. Have a nice day
@dawsonnata this reminds me of a video on YouTube where a guy "professor dave " debate flat earthers. It's also hilarious.
@kimbim lol thanks. Yeah like I was telling our mutual friend @Bratsondanielle I'm sometimes considering to ditch this platform/forum again. Joined on a whim and it seems to have some of the dumbest people alive and they somehow all suffer from the dunning Kruger effect too... but I'm happy you're amused thou
@dawsonnata. You don't have to ditch it all together. Just block the dumbasses!!
@Kingofkings1992. You should have googled dunning Kruger before commenting
Peace@kimbim I personally think the Dunning Kruger effect should be taught in high school. The people we see today, who are completely and utterly worthless and clueless, yet still express their weird ideas with utmost confidence would be limited a bit if we did teach the Dunning Kruger effect in say 10th grade
@kimbim @bratsondanielle @dawsonnata fuck you all. All of you are a bunch of brainwashed delusional morons who are about as useful as a shit stain inside of toilet.
I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we think the same of you, and people like you. People who are like you, are a cancer in society. You are utterly uninformed, low intelligence, short below average educated, but somehow (Dunning Kruger) you still think you are smarter than people like me and @dawsonnata who is obviously highly educated and very intelligent (much more than me too) . Sorry for being so honest with you
@kimbim that’s cool 😎. You don’t have to apologize for being honest, I’m not a snowflake like you. You don’t know anything about my educational background. Just because I don’t think the same way as you, doesn’t mean I lack education or intelligence. Now THAT is having an exaggerated sense of one’s intellect. Oh yeah, she’s so intelligent. She’s getting a bachelors in general studies. Lmao.
You're right!!! Agree!!! I don't know either of you!!! But I only have to read your posts to know who is the bright one.
@kimbim that would be me. @Kingofkings1992 you do realize that coffin makers can't keep up with demand, we make ventilators out of everything and wherever we can, people are dying in the many thousands, morgues have refrigerator trucks out back to store excess bodies?
@msc545 you see what I mean? We're up against the impossible!! These people are... dumb as a doorknob excuse my French
@Kingofkings1992 you think differently that's fine, but do you realize how, if you want to convince others that you are smart and educated, talking about toilet stains and saying f... you , is not really beneficial to your goal?@dawsonnata Yeah, us sane people are just impossible to deal with! OK, Miss self-proclaimed genius. If you were really as smart as you think you are, you wouldn’t feel the need to flaunt it over the Internet to a total stranger. Yeah that just screams confidence and self-assuredness, let me tell you.
@dawsonnata Oh, one last thing vulgarity and intelligence do not pertain to each other at all, but nice try
@dawsonnata @Kingofkings1992 it's true. Calling people dumb cunts 6comparing them to stains in a toilet is actually proof of an IQ above 109. Professors and teachers and doctors talk like this all the time.
You are a genius @Kingofkings1992
Tell us, wise wizard, what is this disease?
It's a conspiracy, right, I knew it!!! Dr fauchi that dr evil is faking the pandemic to inject us with a microchip from bill gates right?
It couldn't be put in the normal shots that everyone gets all the time, so they had to make this covid cover up.
It's necessary for the lizard people to be able to fly in the pyramids above the flat earth right.
Enlighten us, highly intelligent @Kingofkings1992Most intelligent people don't use profanity or abuse in most sentences, that's objectively true.
Regarding the "sane" comment, if most people nowadays are "sane " that's not much of a compliment.
Regarding the lizard people, I hear they want to fly up between the moon and sun which circles over the earth and punch a hole in the dome@kimbim it's microchip. Bill Gates want to track us. The cellphones and credit cards are not enough.
Currently they are working on the countries that are making the vaccine non mandatory cuz they can't track all of themAnd the writer of Simpson's is a 36 degrees Scottish free rite freemasons and he predicted all of it. Look we are super intelligent... we just think different.. lol
@kimbim Well I guess every person who has ever said a cuss word is just utterly unintelligent! Great logic pal👌. Another point, Why are you people still commenting? For a group of people who claim to be so highly intelligent, it’s kind of amazing that you’re unable to discern at what point a conversation becomes redundant.
- No it does not... most on here have been indoctrinated and believe EVERY word of the lying lamestream " media " BS narrative , constant 24/7 fear porn bombardment.
The hospitals round my way are NOT as the " media " & " government " have falsely made out , management have told staff to keep mouths SHUT or your job is on the line !! Yet others needing treatment are being denied this... as a result some people , including one known to me , are now going to die from Stage 4 cancers , those self righteous sheep bleating for permanent lockdowns are the selfish ones. Thumb me down all yer like... this is the planned Great Reset , and the sheeple are willingly walking into the coming slaughterhouse , those thinking I'm wrong , I wish I was !!
0|20|1 - No. It makes them a fucking idiot.
Surgeons and nurses even before the pandemic wear masks for double digit hours a week. Then you have fuckwits who "cannot" wear one for a few hours while outside.
The same sort of dipshits that feel a gun is "necessary" to carry during those few hours outside.1|10|3 - Other way around. There's a pandemic going on, of a very contagious virus with very low lethality. It's already crossed species borders multiple times; it clearly can't be waited out. This pandemic, like all pandemics, will only end when herd immunity is reached. Wearing a mask that slows the spread is prolonging the suffering the lockdowns cause. Extending this misery for the sake of your own fear and greed for social status is as selfish as it gets.0|51|0
- It means the person doesn't care about their own safety or the safety of others and simply wants to do what they want. Is a disgusting habit and one that really should be outlawed but has not been completely. It is not different than driving a car drunk and asserting that they have a right to drive the car drunk even when nobody clearly has a right to do this.0|11|1
How so? Not wearing a mask can kill or injure others, and driving drunk can do the same.
Anonymous14 dNo, it absolutely does not, because wearing a mask does not at all help prevent someone healthy from getting covid. If masks work, why social distancing? If social distancing works, why do we all have to wear masks? Also, if the number of people who have gotten the flu this year has gone down, then why haven’t the numbers for covid cases in states that have been locked down also gone down?
If UV rays kill the virus, why should people be forced to stay inside, when UV rays kill the virus in about as much time than it takes to scramble an egg?
I know, not just think, that this is the trend. You know how each year has a trend? Yep... this is the trend. My family had covid and were one of the first cases in the US!0|00|2Seatbelt won't prevent pedestrian from being hit by car.
If seatbelts work why airbag? If airbags work why speed limits?Masks reduce the viral load if someone with Covid coughs or sneezes in your face. Reduced viral load is predictive of milder illness even if you get it. I realize nobody including apparently, you gives a shit about others, but if you know it might partially protect YOU maybe you will consider wearing one.
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- Yes, 100%. They are putting people with weak immune systems at risk of serious injury or death because they are slightly uncomfortable.3|10|6
- Here in Denmark we're pretty good at it. The muslims are not too good, but the rest of us are. So I generally think it's related to intelligence and also proves that mask are effective. Immigrants have twice the covid of Danish people0|00|0
- Does driving a car make someone selfish? More people have been killed by cars than by the CCP virus times 1,000.
Three million Americans die every year, year after year after year not even counting the deaths from the virus. All of life involves risk. The only way to avoid risk is to never be born. In the end 100% of people die.1|10|1Are you sure, sir? According to www.cnn.com/.../index.html covid has killed more people than car crash, stroke and suicides combined.
And according to injuryfacts.nsc.org/.../ pedestrian incident had five-times higher risk of death than car crash, which should still make less than covid.
However your information seems interesting and would be delighted to read more about it, would you be so kind and provide me with a link to an article where cars kill 1000× more people than covid did?Are you sure, sir? According to www.cnn.com/.../index.html covid has killed more people than car crash, stroke and suicides combined.
Maybe in ONE year. But that is ONE year. Car crashes and accidents have been killing people for 100 years and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
I don't hear anyone accusing people who drive cars of being selfish. In my 65 years on planet earth I have NEVER ONCE heard that.
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Don't those drivers need to follow a set of government issued rules? Like speed limits, airbags, seat belts, lights, driving without drugs or having a driving license? Wouldn't there be more deaths without those rules?
Why do some people feel they don't need to follow a similar set of rules created to limit deaths due to covid?Because driving a car on a publicly funded road is not a right, it's a privilege.
Breathing is NOT a privilege.What about those poor doctors who must wear a mask for a whole day?
Do masks prevent their breathing as well?No one is required to be a doctor in the United States. Being a doctor is a voluntary activity. Breathing is not. The government has no authority to regulate a citizens right to breathe unimpeded in any fashion they choose. Breathing is a right given by God, not by any human government and no government of man has any right to regulate it.
And doesn't bible say to think about others before ourselves and to protect the weak? Is there a better way to protect others (weak) than by wearing a mask, which limits the amount of droplets one spreads around?
"Do not seek your own good, but seek the good of your neighbor." -- 1 Corinthians 10:24
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." -- Mark 12:31
"Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus." -- Philippians 2:1-5God granted human beings the right to choose their own actions. To arrogantly assume that you are so morally superior to others that you have a right to impose your choices on everyone else betrays your dictatorial ambitions and agenda.
Titus 3:1
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another.I am far from perfect thus I want to listen to the reasoning of others, to get to know what they based their opinion on. That is the whole point why I ask so many questions.
Shouldn't that be the point of discussions? Not to "win" but to "understand better" opinions of others and to present each other with your reasonings?
- It could be out of selfishness due to the lack of caring for some. However, for others, it could mean they think the whole covid ordeal is a scam. They think it’s pointless to wear one; not because they’re selfish, but because why would you everyday for a year if it’s not even as hyped up as the government claims it to be.0|00|1
- Yes of course. By not wearing a mask they're risking their lives and putting other people's lives in danger.2|11|5
Anonymous14 dOn one hand people say: "I will do anything for America! Call me and I will defend our Nation!"
On the other hand, when asked to wear a mask: "But I don't want to! It feels uncomfortable, I want to breathe fresh air and my own germs will hurt me if I wear a mask!"0|10|0- Its putting your own convinience over the lives and health of your fellow citizen.1|30|3
- no. i think it's a different kind of solidarity. cause you don't want the right not to wear a mask "just for yourself" but for everyone. so since you want the same right for all, you're not "selfish".0|00|0
- Recently read an study done in Denmark about the wearing of masks. Study showed that people can still catch COVID even though wearing a mask. However, infected people are less likely to spread COVID while wearing a mask.
So in other words, according to this study, wear a mask if you're sick but otherwise they don't prevent infection.1|00|0 - Wearing a mask all the time does nothing for you it doesn't stop you from spreading the disease and it doesn't keep you from getting the disease I've proven fact if you guys had ever been in the service and went through the gas chamber or went to a gas attack y'all would know that this will low down piece of cloth would not help you in a case of a disease or a virus0|30|1
Lol comparison made me laugh so hard. Gas Chamber lol. Not quite the same as spittle spray with virus clinging onto
- No.. I think to each their own.. if u want to wear one go ahead but dont act like your better than some one just because u decide to wear one.. A virus is so microscopic that a mask is not gonna keep it from spreading.. its like putting a fence in your yard to keep out mosquitoes.. they even put a disclaimer on the boxes and packages of the mask that it will not stop the spread of or protect from viruses so what is the point0|30|2
I think your mosquito an metaphor has in it a missunderstanding. Its not about the mosquito getting in to you, but rather the virus / mosquito getting out. The mask reduce speed and so how far you exhale with the virus/ mosquito can travel. It's that actiin that makes mask werign work. Will a mask stop you from getting covid? No. Will a mask stop covid from leaving your body? No. Will it reduce how far the virus can travel from you, yes.
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- Only if those people accept the premise that wearing a mask 'saves lives'. What if they believe, as I do, that wearing a mask actually harms not just you, but others as well?
I guess I'm just crazy, we're all crazy selfish racist people right?0|10|0 - Ironically, if people were allowed to have guns to enforce their mask policy at their own stores, this would not be an issue. You'd think this would be a teachable moment to the libtards about how the right to defend your property is important, but of course they don't understand anything about anything.0|00|1
- Anonymous17 dYes, not only do you not care about your own health but you don’t care about spreading your germs and possible sickness to other people. I would say that’s pretty selfish to me.1|10|3
- I feel like I'd we'd have just worn mask and stayed in the fucking house we would've been done with this last summer but noooo2|31|1
@joeldalton this made me laugh so hard. That anyone can be this uninformed is astounding. Sweden is currently shut down almost completely. The United states embassy in Stockholm is operating on the lowest possible "emergency mode" and most countries in Europe, although opening up to each other, remain closed to Sweden. Sweden isn't "done" on the contrary they are in a world of hurt.
And yes, Sweden currently recommends wearing a mask when you are in public.
And yes.. if you don't you are selfish. You risk your fellow citizens and you drag the pandemic out even longer than necessary. This is why it's recommended as anyone with above 97 iq could automatically guess
I'm not sick so no worries, uneducated people say. Well you could be asymptomatic and yet still spreading the virus.
Japanese people, especially in Cities like Tokyo, have worn mask forever. When I first visited tokyo I was actually a little surprised when I got off the nex (Narita Express) and went upstairs at Shibuya station and saw like 3 or 4 in 10 people just wearing mask. (Long before covid-19)
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Whether you think they're a hoax or do nothing to protect you what do you have to lose? If they really do work you're protecting yourself and others and if they don't work then you'll be inconvenienced at the most 🤷
This is the thought of sane people yes... let me watch whatever stupid video joe put up. So I can report it on YouTube for misinformation
@joeldalton stupid question... so 37 minutes joe? How much YouTube do you watch? And wtf this guys accent lmao
@dawsonnata you’re right. You did have a very stupid question. Sorry your brain can’t focus that long.
@joeldalton I'm not gonna watch the whole 37 minutes crap doesn't mean I'm a loser... uhmm. and you shouldn't really talk... joeboy
If you call glasses goggles then yes, I wear them when I drive at night. Not only bc it helps me see signs but I keep others safe by not riding too close behind someone or swerving. So what's your point? If someone said there was a viruses that for some reason goes for the eyes then yes I'd wear tf out of those google bc again what do you have to lose?
This guy is so stupid... never mind him... hea too dumb to understand even this simple thing
go check out my piece here. I did that on speech to text using half my brain while I was doing other things. Turned out pretty good anyway
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Which reminds me where is hostiletakeover Joey? U said he lives in the trailer next to yours right?Covid can be transmitted by your eyes. Your eyes are a gateway for the virus. The CDC has said this and recommends you wear goggles in public.
What we have to lose by forcing everyone to wear a mask is our societal cohesion. It’s a dangerous precedent to start viewing everyone in your community as a potential threat to your health. Human beings are social animals. We pick up on visual cues (especially children) by looking at people’s faces. Wearing masks makes you more susceptible to suggestion and compliance to authority,. (See study by Mathes and Guest 1978). Anonymity (like wearing a mask or being online) leads to antisocial behavior.
Lastly, most people only wear a mask because there’s some government body threatening them if they don’t wear them. They don’t really believe they help in any significant way.@joeldalton let me help you understand. You can GET covid if the virus gets into your eyes. That's logic for high school graduates. Virus get in your eye can enter your body. Your eyes doesn't spray it thou. You should find someone with a 12th grade c average or higher to explain when you read complicated things like this joe
I can't name a single person being forced to wear masks. Many accomedations are made for people so they don't have to go inside public places yet people are throwing hissy fits about not being allowed in if they aren't wearing a mask. If you don't want to comply and feel like you don't wanna wear one, then business have the right to not serve you. No shoes, no shirt, no masks= no service. Also covid aside, everyone in your community is a potential threat to your health.. ex STDs. Also also, we use more than visual cues. It may be harder to understand bc you can't see them but as I said I wear glasses, yet people can usually read me without seeing my eyes or mouth. Listen to their tone of voice or body language, Even eyebrows are a good indicator
@dawsonnata I don’t understand how you can still double-down on the bad science that says lockdowns and masks work despite significant evidence to the contrary. I don’t understand how you so willingly give up your freedom to a government that doesn’t give a shit about you. I don’t understand how you can fall for Chinese propaganda.
You’re being forced to wear a mask if you live in a state/country that mandates them. Australia and the UK actively arrest people for not wearing them.
Do you think people who’ve had both doses of the vaccine need to wear masks? Do you think people who’ve had covid and have antibodies need to wear masks?@joeldalton joe oh Joe... it's a pandemic... itll go away joe. It's a temporary state of course... it's viral spread measures that we must do to protect us. It's like SARS and mers remember?
@dawsonnata exactly. Because you’re pretending you’re intelligent but you’re being made fool of.
Unless you live off the grid you aren't free. If you pay taxes or have a social security number you aren't free. Fact is people are dead and still dying, and AGAIN what do you have to lose?
@joeldalton ok... this is dumb ... so do you think you have a higher iq than me? Joe?
@dawsonnata If you think that governments haven’t learned how easy you are to control with fear, you’re even more foolish than I thought.
But you bring up a good point. When is it “over”?@JackieJaii exactly. I've been trying to explain this to joe but he's a little thick headed. Suffering from the Dunning Kruger effect (everyone knows that I'm sure)
Let's look at it from his POV. Say today all lockdowns and mandates were lifted and masks weren't required what would happen?
@joeldalton remember SARS and mers and mad cow and bird? If you close your eyes and use all the brains you can I'm sure. Same thing this time. It'll end eventually. You are so informed that you lecture on Sweden. I'm sure you also follow on Denmark. They recently locked down hard again because hospitals were in deep shit and the numbers dropped immediately. Ofc this is propaganda right joe
@joeldalton oh you mean assuming you knew dunning Kruger? Isn't it high school curriculum?
@JackieJaii first of all I'd stay the hell home (do already) and the numbers would explode, flooding the hospitals, hospitals would break down, people like me would live and dumb uneducated people would die... come to think of it joe... it's probably not a bad idea
1) A good portion of people would have natural immunity to Cov-2 due to exposure to other coronaviruses
2) People under 50 who did get infected have a 99.97% survival rate (or higher).
3) We’d eventually achieve herd immunity.(which was about 60% of the population before fauci started playing with the numbers)
We haven’t seen cases go down anywhere with mass lockdowns and mask mandates. We have seen the opposite.@dawsonnata aw and here comes your true nature. You care so much you wish death on other people. the epitome of hilarity. You should take that act on the road. But you don’t leave the house.
@joeldalton oh you haven't seen the Danish numbers? Thought you would since your Sweden comment made me think you were informed. But yep they dropped significantly (went down)
I'll try to explain the rest of what you misunderstood;
99.97 is the total population not the infected
Heard immunity is a good idea. The catch is the number of ventilators needed would be more than we can do
Yes the body to a certain extent knows the Corona spikes but far from the point where people who had ie SARS are even a bit immune to the novel Corona virusThe people who are infected under 50 won't have as high as a survival rate of they have underlying conditions and a New Zealand has been covid free and even lifted their mandates due to no new cases bc people followed them
@JackieJaii exactly. The place where it all began is pretty much the same. "Done with it" as joe say
@dawsonnata 81% of infections don’t require any medical intervention. They’re classified as mild to moderate. Vitamin D deficiency is correlated to severe covid-19 cases. Vitamin D supplements are cheap and readily available
You like to bullshit, but I’m 100% honest. If there wasn’t the scare tactics going on, most people wouldn’t even know they had covid 19 (or care). My infection was mildly annoying at best.@joeldalton I think you're right about the 80 aprox I think... I mean I know 10 people who had the Chinese virus and 1 had very severe symptoms and got steroid and shit. One was really sick and the rest were "fine"
So for once we might agree. But think if one in ten people had to go to the hospital!!
So not mocking you or whatever... if it's not like they say it is then what?
Don't give me control or illuminati please...
What do you seriously think? I'm genuinely interested@dawsonnata They’ll do this again. And again. And again. At the end of the day it’s about control, not a virus. They won’t have learned anything. The government wants despair so it can enact policies to control the population and waste tax dollars. We just saw a “covid relief” bill pass that shuttled billions to foreign countries (which gets funneled back to our politicians’ pockets) As I said... we could have started this pandemic stressing exercise, vitamin D, (along with Zinc, Vitamin C, Quercetin) and getting sunshine. Basic hygiene. Stay home if you’re sick (and I agree, we need protection for workers so that there’s no negative consequence for staying home)
Fauci, the WHO, and the US Surgeon General told people to not wear masks. The WHO’s pandemic response recommendations in 2019 was specifically AGAINST locking down. You’ll counter (of course) with SCIENCE CHANGES!!! But Mask technology didn’t change. Virus transmission didn’t change.
The lockdowns have caused immeasurable misery and despair. Suicides are up, a generation of children is falling behind academically. NY public schools don’t even know where thousands of its students are. Drug and alcohol abuse are up. 1/3 of small businesses are closing forever (while multi-national billionaire companies are making unprecedented profits).
And I’ll say it again, our society is deeply changed for the negative as a result of seeing your community members as active threats to your health. You see people losing their shit in grocery stores and physically attacking others for not wearing a mask. Really? You think this is a healthy society (mentally)?@joeldalton as much as I hate to disagree with you.. . .. I must say you have a good argument there and I can't really shoot you down
But the fact that i say this ( reluctantly- my first thought was to simply not reply) show you that writing like this instead of your normal dip-shit cunty style gets you way further
Anyway... what do you think we should do?
I'm serious if we just open up and play "covid is gone" we will kill our hospital system within weeks or months
At least you agree the virus is real which puts you way ahead of hostiletakeover wherever he is. Do you agree that the novel Corona has a worse effect on respiratory than SARS?
But now let me know what you think we should do?
(Seriously-not mocking you now)@dawsonnata Florida’s hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They’re mostly open. They have an aged population, even. I don’t know that I buy the argument that the hospitals would be overrun. Yes, we hear news stories of “full ICU’s!” But ICU’s are generally full anyway. It doesn’t make good financial sense to have ICU equipment sitting idle. We see ventilators aren’t really working.
So I would ideally open everything.
But short of that we do the following:
1) Protection from lawsuits. No business should be liable if you catch covid in their establishment.
2) Open the schools. In person. 100%. I just read a study that found minimal transmission within opened schools
pediatrics.aappublications.org/.../...090.full.pdf
3) Be honest about the risk to people. If you’re over 70, yeah might be a good idea to avoid large crowds. Mandate ventilation upgrades in nursing home and long term care centers. Rapid testing of all visitors and staff of those places where the vulnerable are.
4) Stop mass testing. We’re getting nowhere with it, other than a daily barrage of doom.
5) Open all businesses. There’s no logical reason for a walmart to be allowed to operate but your local restaurant can not.
6) Stop with the arbitrary masking. There’s no medical reason for healthy people to wear masks. Sorry to be contrary but no definitive studies have ever found asymptomatic spread being the causes in any virus or pandemic. (And yes, I’ve read the CDC “models” that project asymptomatic spread is in 60% of cases... but models aren’t really the way we should be running this pandemic, they’ve been wrong all along). If you were asymptomatic with the flu in 2019 you would have told me today that you were healthy and didn’t have the flu that year. Now we’re calling asymptomatic people “super spreaders”. And no one can honestly say that the walk from a hostess stand with a mask on to remove it when you sit down is preventing any infections.
7) Again, re-emphasize overall good health, the supplements I mentioned earlier. Get outside, get sunlight and exercise. Eat less McDonalds and more vegetables. This is stuff that could have prevented deaths overall@joeldalton well it sounds like a dream scenario for sure. How ever much I'd love to have it happen I still don't know if it's a good idea.
You have looked at Sweden at some YouTube and I didn't watch it no, but do you know Denmark? A tiny peace loving social democratic country on top of Germany. Neutral in most wars and genuinely free from anything and everyone. They started by just social distance and sanitizers and the thing you want pretty much. They refused to lock. Recently they locked down because they were starting to transport patients from the capital in the north to the south because they lost hospital capacity. They also very recently mandated mask. They say if you really don't want to you can just don't do it but 98% of people do.
I visited Tokyo in summer 2019 before covid was even born. I kid you not like half of them wore mask. I made some friends and I asked them about it. They said different things like looking tired that day and stuff not feeling like smiling that day but Also spreading disease. Again way before covid. It was no big deal for them. Just normal and clerks in the store did it and everyone else. This is why I don't understand why it's such a huge issue here. It's literally a piece of cloth and it's temporary.
Wuhan where this started is fine again already, mostly because they took measures and did it (a little too) effective
Of course I'd rather be without it. Of course it's annoying. I hate my seatbelts in the car. I still have to wear it right. But if there's a chance it works...
I'll agree with the Walmart but I do (at least my Walmart) order online and curbside pickup. In my mind everyone should.
But I'm not sure what would happen if we totally open up. I just don't see why we don't if it's possible.
Am I blind to something? Perhaps I am. But I really think we're doing it right. The vaccine is rolling out and I just hope it will be the end of this. I'm tired of it too Joel. I want to take my friends to dinner. I want to do all I used to.
Also I agree the kids seem to get and spread it way less which is good.
And last but not least why don't you always write like this? Gets you way further than your "usual style "@dawsonnata You aren’t always this charming, either - just saying.
I haven’t looked a lot at Denmark, but I’ll look into it.
As far as Japan and masks - yes, it’s culturally acceptable to be polite and wear a mask in public if you’re coughing or sneezing. That’s radically different from mandating that every person wear a mask. I’ve said to family in discussions that if the US had been reasonable with its recommendations, they would have been followed. I don’t think that its unreasonable to wear a mask if you wish and are actively coughing or sneezing. But again, It should purely be up to the individual to decide.
Most everyone was playing along with “2 weeks to slow the spread”. That was 9 months ago. So while you insist it’s “temporary” I’d agree if there was ever a definitive end goal. Most people I knew were trying to follow the rules from March to even May. But there’s no “hey if the Rt number goes below 1.0 we will reopen XYZ”. It’s nonsensical never ending goalpost moving. Even Fauci has fudged his herd immunity numbers (well he’s lied a lot during this whole thing) - first it was 60%, now he’s up to 80% to scare people into getting the vaccine. That’s not good public policy.
@dawsonnata As far as Wuhan. That’s the heart of this. The videos of people falling dead in the street was nothing but chinese propaganda that the rest of the world fell for. They claimed to have tested all 10,000,000 residents? Really? If it takes you only 5 minutes to test a person (and it takes longer to get all the paperwork processed between people) you’re looking at 34,000 days (check my math) going 24x7. That says nothing about the logistics of manufacturing the tests and processing the results.
We know the PCR tests are unreliable. We know that many countries are reporting any death within 30 days of a positive test as a covid death. I’m proposing it’s not as deadly as we’re being told and that Wuhan just opened up and let things fall where they may. They conned the rest of the world into shutting down (because really all they had to do was convince one or two and the rest of the world followed suit)
Even the whole toilet paper scare - Australians were worried about a shortage because they get their TP from China... now here in the US it’s still hard to find reliable stock and we’ve never had a production interruption.@joeldalton I'm always extremely charming Joel, and you know it.
Denmark and Sweden (I still didn't watch the video- I might- not a big YouTube fan) are the reasons I mostly agree with "the official narrative /mainstream" namely because they both refused to a certain point and then failed. France too. France has a very extensive and very well run health care system. But they eventually fell in line with the rest of us too. I don't know what your video say yet, but Sweden to begin with had zero interest in any of it. Today, and for few months now, they have been locked down hard. Most European countries don't allow swedish people across the border.
Now fauchi I don't really believe he "lies" why would he "lie" ? It's weird to me that people make fauchi a "bad guy" I don't think he gained anything. He's rich and famous already. He's 80 as of Christmas and could just retire and relax. I bet he will after this is over.
To be honest with you I thought you were like that hostiletakeover guy to begin with x, but it's nice to be pleasantly surprised. That also surprises me to see you say scare people into the vaccine. They could just mandate it. Besides like 50% of people will get it anyway.
I don't know if it's Chinese propaganda or not but it's just that way it always goes.
The Chinese cook up a virus and burn the world. Could be from a lab of course, but it doesn't matter. Point is world is crashing and we want it back up. I want this too. I was going to Pretoria and Durban this year, and now I'm home and going nowhere. I definitely want to stop it as much as anyone!! I'm currently hoping (I don't pray) the vaccine will work.
The math is probably right. But tons of people are working on it, so a little divide is necessary. Again Denmark: tested 708,000 in 4 weeks and it's a country of 5.5 million so people get tested multiple times. They set up a ballpark and they test 24/7
And yes, the toilet paper is fun alright. But two of my friends who bought a bidet washlet because they tried mine currently worship me so it's not all bad. If everyone would start to replace them old American watergushers with Japanese washlet we'd save tons of trees and water@Stephen_77 honey, it's kinda cute that you wish to butt in with your immature insult, and no argument, but you enter into a rather long educated conversation, so you don't have to comment further. Go read my piece here if you're bored Covid compared to mers and SARS, the previous novel Corona viruses ↗
@dawsonnata If you're gonna post ignorant nonsense then I have the right to challenge it. Snow flake.
If you can't debate or argue without resulting to insults and name calling please take it elsewhere
@JackieJaii his preschool name calling doesn't bother me the least. Just shows up front that he's beneath me. So with that out of the way... @Stephen_77 you can challenge anything I say if you want. That just leaves the question "when do you start"? You haven't challenged anything!! The closest you come is "masks don't work " and it's true, within the scientific community there is currently some debate and research going on as to whether or not they do. Doctors researchers epidemiologists and virologists don't know for sure yet. These highly educated people are currently looking into it. The idea that you have, because you watched a YouTube video where some dude wears a lab coat, and you think "he said no so now I know the truth" is beyond ignorant and you regurgitating it online just shows that you are not a very educated person. Furthermore if you HAD read some of the "nonsense " and you HAD half a brain , you would have immediately realized that this discussion was far beyond "mask works ". If you now have any reasonable and intelligent thing to say, do so. Otherwise you can go back to watching YouTube. Take care.
@dawsonnata the purpose of the mask is to stop spittle spray not the single virion
@dawsonnata looks like Danes aren't too happy with their new restrictions
www.thelocal.dk/.../nine-arrested-in-denmark-after-anti-lockdown-violence@msc545 nobody is really "done" except the place where it all began... and exactly because they took heavy duty measures to use.. they didn't argue with mask for a year like us or have groups claiming it's fake and all the bulls*** that we're facing here. N.. which is y it drags out forever here...
@joeldalton I read it and looks like it was 259 people in a country of 5.6 million. Not that bad. Besides I didn't say anything about if they were happy. I said when they locked down hard about 3 weeks ago the numbers immediately dropped. And of course... it's a viral spread so if people stay home and stay apart...@dawsonnata Well it's quite clear from your stupid comments that you are living in zombie land and have the intelligence of a jelly fish.
@Stephen_77 you're a twat living in the uk and you have an IQ of someone who sits in the pub way too much and drives on the wrong side you dimwit. Bullock's to you
@Stephen_77 you promised to challenge some of the things I wrote. I'm waiting. Take care sweetheart Stephen.
yeah I'm definitely smarter than a lot of people, but I'm also pretty well educated. You like my stuff? Check this one out.
Covid compared to mers and SARS, the previous novel Corona viruses ↗
by the way regarding those dimwits you realize it's no use sinking to their level right? Just I saw your comment up above@dawsonnata yeah I know it's just for fun. I was experimenting and trying to let them see how dumb it looks but don't seem to catch on. Anyway imma follow you ok?
Go for it. Here is one of my better ones.
I did it after I encountered a ton of conspiracy bull... on here
Agenda 2020/2030 Etc. Not a thing!!! ↗
If you like the other two you are gonna love thisI'm not. Remember I gave up like weeks ago and here I waltz in to some random thread and I find a mile long thread with dawson and dalton. No no I'm definitely not getting into it I don't possess that kind of patience
I sometimes think it's a mistake that we came and saved Britain from the germans if y'all catch my drift
I'm with you dear. At least they are out of the EU now
Believe it or not this guy is actually pretty typical average brit it's really sad
I been to Britain few times. I'm not even kidding when I say lots of people are like this.
Bullocks let's go to pub (like always)U are a combination of both @kimbim? Does your wife know? This guy is clearly high IQ and well educated I can tell by his intelligent comments here
- Yes, they are selfish for putting other people at risk and prolonging the spread of this virus.1|10|4
- Of course not. It only means the person is not an indoctrinated fool.0|50|3
- Anonymous17 dYou mean those things which have been proven not to work? No. Of course women would mostly vote yes. Give women a vote and you get a police state because while they think they're strong and independent they're so quickly willing to trust authority.0|30|2
They aren't cures, and they aren't 100% but they are good at some things, and that's better than nothing at all. Notably, keeping them from touching their own face. This is the main reason why people are getting sick in the first place. People touching things and their hands then scratching their nose and mouth. It's not rocket science to understand how germs are spreading. If a mask can help deter that one thing - it's doing it's job.
- It makes them responsible for their own safety and free choice. The ones yelling and screaming about me not wearing a mask should consider themselves living since i would probably snack the living shit or of most people online. In person i just tell them to mind their own business and to go fuck themselves.
You wanna be a good little sheep go ahead1|00|1 - Yes. I wonder if the people who do this think the rest of us enjoy it? Or maybe they just consider us sheep who believe in what the Man tells us.
If everyone took this seriously, it would be over quicker, and fewer people would be dead.2|10|2 - It makes them selfish and ignorant.
He likes children 0|00|3 - as some1 whos very succeptible to the virus, it does seem selfish :/0|21|4
She could be a diabetic, or have severe obesity , or a serious heart disease, or High blood pressure.. etc
I've already been hospitalized. i have a form of pidd, that's how i figure. its a little sad seeing people not wearing masks :( even tho its not the real issue, still, a guy i know said hed never wear a mask bc if he got rona he wldnt get sick. it shows he either doesn't care or understand that somewhere down the line som1 could b really affected
- Yes! By refusing to wear it means you don't care about other people.1|20|4
- Without a doubt yes while this pandemic is ongoing. I don’t like wearing a mask but I still wear one because I understand it’s an absolute must right now to slow the spread of the virus and protect other people. Once this pandemic ends later in the end then masks won’t be needed anymore.0|01|0
- Of course it does. They're there to protect the people around you.0|00|4
- Anonymous17 dYea. The mask filters air so your Bactria gets caught on it and co2 and o2 pass through freely. Not having one Is a jerk thing to do people can will and do die from this1|21|3
- No because most people suffer with anxiety and the mask worsen that condition. Some people get a headache and dry throat and red eyes from wearing a mask, some people have respiratory conditions. So no everyone can wear the mask.0|30|4
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@dawsonnata Most people don't suffer from impending death, but catch Covid because you are too stupid or stubborn to wear a mask like half the population, and you might.
@msc545 exactly. People are braindead. The positives of this: the dumb ones get it more and more of them don't go to the doctor so after covid average IQ will have gone up a tad
You mean give you something to bitch about? Nah you do you. We all have a choice. And i simply choose not to ignore this daft topic but i choose to let you reflect on how much of an idiot you are trying to force your opinion on others. 😁
You're clearly not ignoring it but you just don't make a lot of sense you just offer word salad
I'm choosing not to engage in your stupid debate. Wanna wear a mask, go for it but the choices of other people ain't your business. Now jog on you bitch
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Check this out thou. This bitch did this on speech to text while driving using half her bitches brains lolSorry bitch - i didn't mean to call you a bitch - it's what i managed to type while squeezing a poo out. Ufff too much hot sauce 😓 tastes good though. Don't take the bitch remark to the heart😘😘😘
@dawsonnata People actually die from Covvid while yelling that they don't have it because it doesn't exist...
@dawsonnata Indeed. Unfortunately, the inverse is true. Every silver lining has a cloud. Or something like that.
@msc545 lol you'd just kick my ass and make me mad. I'm not that good at it I can only think 3 moves ahead and my brain doesn't budge for. More
@dawsonnata actually most people don't really think ahead more than 10 or 12 moves, so no worries for you. You can even play white if you like.
@msc545 yeah I kinda hate people like this it sucks but hey... someone has to pack my groceries and clean my house right?
@dawsonnata Yeah ok, I guess chess pieces should be blue and green. And here I was trying to be nice. White always moves first in chess.
@msc545 lol blue and green lol. And yes white moves first. Black has an advantage thou if given the right opening from white to use queen and bishop to assassinate the white king in four moves... unless white knows that it's coming...
@msc545 true dat bro. If you play with a beginner and you get the chance to do it it's still fun thou
- No, it makes a person an EFFEN COVIDIOT & Darwin Award Nominee!0|00|0
- Anonymous17 dSure, but since when hasn't all of society been selfish?
It's also selfish to have lockdowns.
Same difference.0|30|0 - yea unless they either 1) genuinely don't think it's a big deal, not just for their age group 2) think it's a hoax0|00|2
- Not in their own home. But out in a public place like a store yes. And even worse than selfish.1|10|2
- a little bit but at the same time I feel like that is there right0|00|0
- Yes cause we’re tired of it but we want get out if we all cooperate the faster it get better. It was like this in 1917.1|20|2
- Covid is a myth
It's the flu
Masks and social distancing make little difference and it's very unhealthy for us to wear.
It's a way to control us
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- There’s no scientific reason for a healthy person to wear a mask.0|32|0
Apart from the fact that what you call healthy people are indistinguishable from presymptomatic or asymptomatic people.
@goaded asymptomatic people ARE healthy people. And it’s not your business what my health status is. If a person believes they are healthy and doesn’t want to wear a mask, that’s their responsibility.
Of course it's not, that would be like saying it's Typhoid Mary's right to work in your company's canteen. People don't know if they're infectious.
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It's their responsibility to obey the speed limit as well to limit the chances of causing a car accident. But just because it's they're responsibility doesn't mean that they shouldn't face legal consequences for not exercising said responsibility.
As far as I know, I don't have cancer, but if I did, it wouldn't affect anybody I interacted with. Of course some asshole not wearing a mask might give me a disease that would kill me in my weakened state, even if they "think" they're healthy.
Asymptomatic people are lucky in the sense that they aren't affected by the virus, but they are spreading it to others who may not be so lucky. If someone asymptomatic goes into a grocery store and touches tomatoes and other things and moves along, but someone else comes along and touches the same things and picks up the virus that the asymptomatic person shed, then they can get sick, and their system may not be able to handle it as well as other people.
@Ozanne Asymptomatic spread is exceedingly rare, as is surface-contact transmission. You also never gave a shit about spreading the flu to people in previous years if you were asymptomatic for the flu. So spare me.
Oh, go on, show her your two papers written over the last year that you think show "Asymptomatic spread is exceedingly rare"!
It's 10x as deadly as flu, and far more contagious; it should demand the giving of much more shit.@goaded Right, it's only science when you agree with it. This is why China openly mocks you for staying home in your house right now.
- Not sure, makes the retarded though1|11|5
- Yes it does and it pisses me off0|21|2
- Maybe, but so what? They don't have a duty to keep a stranger healthy.1|00|0
- They should be shot or sent to a camp to work and educate them and maybe light tourture. Might be harsh?1|01|0
- It's a courtesy thing0|00|0
- No, it makes someone sane.0|30|1
- Makes them a total fucking selfish asshat1|10|4
- No, say the selfish people.1|00|0
- Nope, not in the slightest0|40|0
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