Will Joe be the savior that Democrats hope for?

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[nightdrot]

Likely not. As far as Mr. Biden is concerned, he has attempted to portray himself as a more unifying force than Mr. Trump. This he may, with time, prove to be, but at the moment he is as divisive in his way as Mr. Trump is in his. Mr. Biden being, after all, the presidential candidate who has - Trump style - referred to his opponent as a clown, who has told African-Americans that they are not black if they don't vote for him, who has said that Republicans wish to put African-Americans in chains, who ineptly injected race into the recent Capitol Hill riot, who clearly does not want Trump impeached but cannot bring himself to say so at the risk of offending the most strident in his own party, and who once threatened to fight with a voter who disagreed with him on gun control.

In this, then, Mr. Biden is simply the Democrat's version of Donald Trump and is not any more apt to smooth the cultural waters than Mr. Trump has done. Indeed, overall, Mr. Biden is an unremarkable figure. His views are vague and changeable. His policies, where they are known, are not especially innovative. Indeed, are timeworn and not likely well adapted to contemporary circumstances. Where original they are vague to the point of opacity, leavened by a certain pandering character.

Indeed, in this he is not unlike the current occupant of the White House. Mr. Trump's policies being a mishmash of programs drawn from both sides of the aisle. Thus tax cuts - a pretty standard GOP policy - and trade protectionism - long a demand of the Democratic party. Albeit that both parties are, right now, doing intellectual handstands as they transition to new constituencies.

Indeed, both Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden seem little concerned with the agitated state of the national mood and seem content to pour salt in the social wounds. In this, comparisons of Mr. Biden to Franklin Roosevelt or Mr. Trump to Ronald Reagan are wildly off the mark. Both FDR and Reagan having sought - often eloquently - to lighten the social mood and calm the waters, even as they advanced policy agendas that were, in their day, in many respects highly controversial.

Indeed, in this Mr. Biden (and Mr. Trump) are just the opposite. They advance their policy suggestions with combative and vituperative language designed to agitate their base supporters without forging any longer term social consensus. This making it likely that - unlike FDR and Reagan - neither man will leave a lasting policy legacy.

In terms of his ability to get legislation through Congress, Mr. Biden seems as likely as not to be more like Jimmy Carter. Mr. Carter ran on a campaign of not being Richard Nixon and so when he won he he achieved that goal. The problem being then that he had no mandate to govern and thus the Democratic party fell apart, lacking a consensus on what policies to adopt. (Thus was Mr. Carter's "moral equivalent of war" on the energy crisis stillborn.)

Mr. Biden finds a party similarly divided, as the recent brutal conference call between Speaker Pelosi and her caucus amply demonstrated, albeit with more energy in its liberal wing than Mr. Carter enjoyed and thus perhaps a consensus might be forged. However, going in, it appears that Mr. Biden may inherit a divided party that controls Congress in name but not in fact, and that he will have no mandate to move it in any given policy direction.

Of course, things could change. After the 20 years of tumult that were the 1960s and 70s, the nation was exhausted. Thus the relative calm of the 80s and 90s to follow. Mr. Biden may get a similar break. Of course, given the vague brew of his policies, what impact he will have on the economy can only be guessed at - and bad economic times can foster a bad social mood.

So the doors may swing either way. However, at least going in to a Biden presidency, say what one will, it would be best to go into it with lowered expectations. Utopia is not apt to be around the corner.

[ObscuredBeyond]

They only keep telling themselves that , because they are blind believers in some batshit insane cult that believes that some "Equilibrium of Gaia" or some other such BS can only be maintained if the human race is under 50 million in population.

The population is currently 7 billion. So therefore, since they've decided that they are the gods, and these Tide eaters also believe that the herd must be culled, but don't dare want to invoke the wrath of China, they've elected in their cowardice and hypocrisy that they, China, and Iran will be spared. Everyone else, is just a herd to be culled.

Creepy Joe and his ilk want only to do that which causes massive death and destruction. But when you believe genocide is salvation , then of course you see Thanos-like monsters as saviors.

The way this is unfolding is demonic.

[linds34]

I don't know what they want out of him - I've been on vacation and just got back to work. But if you want to play a game, let's say my last Boss wasn't very good and this one is good. Still, it kind of sucks if you showed up to work and the building was on fire.

[Virginmartha]

I don't wanna get into politics. So lemme just say this. Joe is one sexy ass man. If it weren't for the C-19 I'd try and get tickets and I'd throw my panties at him like it's a concert and he's Janet Jackson. I'd do that man any day of the week.

[OlderAndWiser]

Joe is not tough enough to take on the Squad and put them in their place. The Democrat party is as fractured as the Republican party and the opportunity is ripe for the emergence of a third party which would be nore centrist.

[pajamasam]

I voted for him but honestly don't feel he is going to be a savior or anything. He will probably be a decent president but he's simply too old. I highly doubt he will even run for a second term. The biggest benefit is going to be that the executive office is actually going to be interested in doing the job well. Where the former administration was basically just running a 4 year long re election campaign.

I feel he might do some great things but im not expecting him to be some political savior or anything.

[guesswhoseback]

He’s just an empty shell and a senile puppet. He would of been obliterated if he ran against anyone else. No one is “excited” about Joe Biden being president. Everybody is just “relieved” that Trump is out of office.

Say all you want about Trump but our country could easily be thrown out of the frying pan and into the fire when it comes to the economy. As crazy as Trump was he is a business man. He understood free enterprise, markets and economic policy. Prior to the pandemic we had one of the best economies and lowest unemployment rates in American history.

Now I predict mass inflation and stagnate recovery at best with Biden.

[snowboarder720]

Will he be the ‘savior’? No. I know that not every politician is perfect. However when there’s a POTUS that refuses to condemn white supremacy and racism in this country while promoting domestic terrorists to break into the nations capital with Confederacy flags... I cannot support him AT ALL. That was an embarrassment to me and speaks more about the morals of the POTUS and his followers. I’m proud that there wasn’t any counter protesters and the POTUS followers were left alone to have their own actions speak for themselves. Absolute children.

[msc545]

I sincerely doubt he will give the Savior that very Progressive Democrats are hoping for. He has a bad history of warmongering and being on the side of Corporations as opposed to the side of real people and I don't think that's changed much based on his cabinet appointments. He voted for the United States to become involved in the war in Iraq and it's not had much to say about that. He is probably one of the more conservative Democrats that have ever been elected to office. All that being said he is still a lot better than Trump. Almost anyone would have been better than Trump and he basically got elected on that basis.

[lightbulb27]

he will be the savior of Hunter:)

If he enjoys choc/vanilla twist... I like him more. But I recognize that is ice cream bias.

He already is in the reality he beat the other guy whom they despise and wanted dead or alive.

Could have been better, but could have had a worse pick. To his credit, he's a seasoned politician with 45+ years training in BS, lying, deceipt, and reading teleprompter. I'm concerned about who is writing the stuff he reads. That should be public knowledge for sake of national security.

[BCA6010]

He will roll over for whoever pulls his strings. Expect his presidency to be like the Mandarin from Iron Man 3- some mentally deficient puppet who occasionally gives out very short, heavily scripted speeches from a remote location (his mansion, camp david, or the white house) "to avoid risk of COVID" while the party elites and benefactors make all the actual decisions, and his press secretary speaks on his behalf 99% of the time. Remember, Obama practically locked this guy up in a closet for 7 of the 8 years of his presidency, and he was far less inept back then. Eventually they'll announce that he has sustained an incapacitating injury or some other excuse, and then try to force Harris and probably Andrew Cuomo as a new administration by 2024.

[KrakenAttackin]

Joe owes the radical left EVERYTHING and they are already looking for payment.

Joe has never stood for anything all he has really had is a big smile and smooth voice. Joe has stayed on office by taking wealthy widows out of their money for campaign contributions. Now Joe will have to actually make decisions and he is really not up to it.

The angry black woman, Kamala, will not stand being sidelined like a regular VP, so I predict significant tension between Joe and Kamala. Of course the media will never show this.

[jshm2]

Put it this way.

He could turn up to congress, shit on the lectern, then go back home. Do this alone for his whole term and he'd STILL have done a better job, and earned more respect, than Donald Trump.

Trump just shat on every post in government, during his term, and still had enough shit in him to go to the toilet at the end of the day. That's how full of shit Trump was.

[TeeBar]

It is going to take a lot more than this senile female-molesting Alzheimer's victim to "save" the unsalvageable Dimocratic Party. Joe was the lesser of two evils as their candidate as the alternative was crazy Bernie Sanders. Pervert Joe is a pathetic excuse for a man and a national politician. He is so far gone that I wouldn't be surprised if he appointed pre-pubescent girls as his "personal aides".

[Anonymous]

Probably not, but he's a step in the right direction. The bar has been set very low. Just don't be a piece of shit dictator who tries to destroy democracy and don't commit a crime while in office every week. If he can accomplish that, it's a drastic improvement over what came before and that's a victory. As depressing as that sounds. Joe's job is to lay the groundwork. It's the next one who will really turn things around. Though it will take decades to completely undo the damage that has been done.

[chubbycrow]

most democrats and centrists wanted yang in the white house or bernie j yang was out because he didn't have a big enough previous following (yang sadly wasn't a big name altho he is now) and bernie was too far left many thought, to beat trump, also his campaign was screwed by the virus

[Anonymous]

All they were hoping for was "not Trump", as only as it's an establishment approved butt in the chair then they're fine. They don't give a fuck as long as the guy in charge will play all with whatever they want do. Once the dementia ramps up, they'll invoke the 25th and install Kamala.

[masonderek6994]

He's not done anything to help in the 47 years he's been in government. Why would anyone expect him to actually do something now. He didn't have the mental capacity to hold the highest office in the land. He's also a suspected child molestator. He like both young boys and girls. That should scare people right there but everyone thinks he's the greatest savior for abbeys. He's going to usher in socialism and remove most of our freedoms and rights.

[Anonymous]

No way! Honestly, the Dems haven't had a strong candidate since Truman. Clinton and Kennedy were too corrupt, Carter had very weak domestic policy and Obama was fun, but had weak policies and leadership.

If Biden is the best the Dems can put forth, they're fucked!

[slatyb]

Savior? That’s not how Democrats look at candidates. We’re certainly he will be a better President than Trump.

[b5fan]

Biden is going to pivot to the middle as fast as he can. He should do that as well in an attempt to heal this nation. We should not have mass protests every presidential election, it's childish and massively dangerous for democracy.

[Bananaman177]

Not unless they're all hoping he "saves" them by rotting in a cell in Guantanamo for the rest of his life.

[oddwaffle]

At least Twitter hasn't banned his bony ass yet!!!

They banned the blond mop head as soon the guy turned into a lame duck. Not sure who's next.

[Celtero]

Yep. Regardless of what he accomplishes, good or bad, they'll fellate him regardless because he represents their team.