Yes because treason and insurrection against your own country is an abomination
Tell that to antifa and blm
They were the ones committing anarchy, treason and insurrection on capitol hill though. Can't you even bring yourself to acknowledge reality even for a moment?
Either its antifa or some very foolish maga supporters. Either way trump never incited anything
Trump claims he won the election by a landslide and his dumb supported believe whatever he says. He said "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" - when right wing Nazi maniacs heard this it emboldened them to break the law and storm the Whitehouse.
Maxine waters was encouraging people to push people. Liberal leaders have been doing nothing but egging on riots
Whats emotional about wanting to stop anarchy, treason and insurrection? So you think this behaviour is conservative do you?
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So you agree these thugs should be locked up - that needn't cause a civil war
These thug yes the thus in BLM and antifa yes they should all be locked up
You forgot to mention the anarchists and insurrectionist Trump voters. Conservatives normally believe in law and order or have you forgotten your principles
That’s what I meant by these thugs, I also pointed out BLM and antifa which the left seems to think aren’t thugs even though they literally burn down a police precinct in the Seattle
Fair enough their are some thugs on the left but it's a whole new level when the President encourages thuggery and can't accept legitimate defeat in a democratic election
See this is where I disagree I don’t think Trump insisted violence, What democrats are using to push that narrative is when he said “you gotta fight and fight like hell otherwise your not going to have a country”. What there saying is by using the word fight he incited violence. But I will point out that both sides use the word fight. Example we got to fight for women’s right or we got to fight for healthcare. Fight could be interpreted as physical or verbal, It up to the people who hear the message and interpret it the way they see it, The way the asshole who stormed the capital interpretation was that we have to physically fight what others took that to mean fighting by setting up our own stuff, like an alternative to Hollywood or ESPN or Facebook and Twitter and fight back with our own news sources not actually using physical force, So my attitude is if you’re going to arrest Donald Trump for inciting violence then you have to arrest Chris Cuomo for inciting violence you have to arrest Don lemon for inciting violence and so on I could name at least 10 people who use the same language as Trump. Or I can have the standard that if someone take someone else’s words to enact violence then that the person who in in Enacted the violence are assholes and deserve to go to jail regardless of their on the left or right. Now people use the excuse that he was saying the election was rigged (getting into a little bit of what aboutism here but). What about the Democrats who said the 2016 election was stolen it’s the same language if Democrats aren’t guilty of inciting the riots in 2016 when Trump then Republicans aren’t responsible for using the same language on their side or alternatively we’re all guilty and most of our political leaders should be in jail.
Interesting points, Trump claims he won the election by a landslide and his dumb supported believe whatever he says. He said "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" - when right wing Nazi maniacs heard this it emboldened them to break the law and storm the Whitehouse. No decent civilised society wants an angry hateful mob controlling the agenda
This is correct (by the way those neo-Nazis and Albright supporters make up 1% of our party it’s not the entire Republican Party). However I will say that the entire Republican Party does believe the election was stolen but the The Democrat party did the same thing a 2016. I think we’re at a point where neither side trustee election unless their guy wins which isn’t good for a democracy now arguably democracy is the worst form of government except all the other ones. (How to throw in a Churchill quote) What needs to happen is both sides need to stop the rhetoric of division when Don lemon gets On CNN and says all Trump supporters are responsible for what happened at the capital and we do voting for Trump was going to cause it that’s an out right lie and that’s going to cause people who are not that one percent of Nazi to actually start fighting back. You probably don’t like Ben Shapiro but go back on YouTube and watch his last couple episodes that will give you a good look at what the Democrats are doing and how Republican feel about it and the consequences of the continuous divisive rhetoric. His point is basically that we need to stop looking at the other side as the devil and realized we just disagree with that. Think if you actually think your political opponent is a Nazi then you’re going to do anything to stop the Nazis I’m getting into power or alternatively if you think your political opponent is an actual communist you’re going to do anything to stop the communist from getting into power. This is why unless you’re AOC or Bernie Sanders I’m not gonna call liberals communist in general. I will be specific in whoI say it’s an actual communist. (Socialism and communism are basically the same thing)
Sensible points made and yes in essence compromise and acknowledging the other side is a more grown up way of getting things done. But I disagree that the Democrats thought they won the 2016 election - they did not think that - they just didn't like Trump and everything he stood for. The difference this time is the majority of the Republican party actually believe they won. It's interesting they weren't complaining about voter fraud in 2016, only when they lose do they cry fraud. That's the difference. Ben Shapiro can be reasonable at times but he is incredibly partisan as per his awful performance here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk
That was hilarious must be talking about the right side of history it’s a really good book he divides into Greek philosophy and Judaism and how those to society come to gather to make what is know as the west today. But yes he is pretty partisan he admit it to he states on his show all the time he’s conservatives bias, I wish don lemon would do that, What irritates me about him is they are opinion journalists but they call themselves objective when there not this is why I don’t pick on MNSB. As much because they admit there bias same with TYT. As far as the 2016 election f they thought the election was far why did they push the Russian collusion narrative for the first two years? The 2020 election was weird I subjected that we postpone the election until 2021 because of the pandemic, My state of Washington has done mail in ballot since 1971 so we know what we’re doing I trust my state to make sure there doing it right, But there are states that have never done mail in balloting primarily the states that matter like Pennsylvania and Georgia, During the first time Washington we had massive issue with the vote, over time it got better, So imagine there was voter fraud in this election they fought a mailman toss 111 ballot in the trash in Kentucky in the trash, we caught him imagine the ones we didn’t catch, so it’s no wonder why people are questioning it, Also in California Ben got his ballot in California and Florida (he moved last October). He turned the California ballot in because he wasn’t voting in that state but imagine the ones who didn’t people aren’t good at checking stuff like that, there was some evidence in Georgia that dead people voted Democratic, So I don’t think there was a coordinated effort for voter fraud but it was individuals who did stuff like what I mentioned and there was enough to change the election.
No, treason and insurrection against one's own country is far far worse!
We cannot pick and chose what to serve justice...
Most of us can tell the difference between right and wrong.
Or castration to stop the stupid.