Should conservatives adopt Antifa Tactics?

- No, it would not work. Antifa has the support of academia, media, politicians and massive corporations! Take the capital riots for example... Antifa has be responsible for more deaths, more violence, more private property damage and more public property damage! They were not only supported but they were bailed out of jail through coordinated efforts! Then dozens of attorney generals across the nation refused to press charges!!!
As soon as right wing people protest, riot and loot...”which they did do” the full force of the law, the media, socia media and multi-national corporations is brought against them!! They are being arrested, prosecuted, censored, banned and put on no fly lists like terrorists!!!
“now if you mean should they start wearing masks and hiding their identity, the. Yes they probably should if they value their freedom. But I’m against that. I believe that the only way out of this is non-violent civil disobedience.
MLK has shown us the path to win America’s hearts and minds. There is a reason why MLK succeeded where malcom X failed. the civil rights movement faced all the same powers that conservatives now face; media, corporations, democrats and permanent bureaucrats! MLK succeeded through non-violent civil disobedience and by winning the hearts and minds of the American public. He shinned a light on the evil that was taking place in this country and the American people stood up and said enough!
That is the path out of this problem, not violence, not civil war and not secession! but that is the difficult path and the humble path... do people have the strength to take it”?0|70|1Is this still revelant?@ThisDudeHere I know man! We need some actual leaders in this country right now, desperately. Leaders in our community’s, leaders in culture... not politicians.
- remember antifa benefits from media propaganda. we won't. Something more clever will need to be done. those media and social media companies need to be stopped though. destroyed really.
above all remember this "the death of any cause is its most avid supporter" if violence were done hopefully the people doing it would be clever enough to go into media lockdown months before hand, delete their online presence, and build a fake persona and reason for their actions dressed up as a far left cause0|20|1Is this still revelant?
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220- I would support that as long as the protests are not violent.0|10|0
Good Point. I would expect Antifa/Marxist infiltrators to blend in and cause violence. The protestors should take a hard position that they will subdue anyone in their midst who commits this type of violence in their name and then turn them over to authorities, hands and feet bound with zip ties and video evidence of their activities.
- I have a feeling that, after being cornered and given little other choice, that this is how it will end up anyway. Difference being that they will be labelled far more negatively than the far left.0|10|0
- Anonymous4 dIt wouldn't be effective. I wish people would get a clue about how all of this works and the games that are being played here. This is a chess game and you're all playing checkers.
Antifa are funded by rich elites such as George Soros. They're also funded by left-wing politicians. They're allowed to do what they do for the most part as the police are ordered to stand back, and any who are arrested will be helped by those who fund them.
While they pretend that they're fighting against the system, and many of them (along with most people who aren't antifa) probably are stupid enough to think that they're fighting against it, they're actually fighting for it.
They claim to hate the rich, they claim to hate the banks, they claim to hate big corporations, but they're fighting in their interests. You're not a real revolutionary if almost every politician, every big business and mainstream society as a whole agrees with you.
Conservatives, and particular those who are patriotic/nationalistic, are the enemy of the rich. For the simple fact that the elites want and profit off of globalism. A nation of united people is also harder to control than a nation of divided people - divide and conquer.
If the right were to use antifa tactics they'd be crushed. Sure, before I go on, those who went into the Senate were not at the beginning, in fact they were allowed in. Like I said, chess game, checker players. That was deliberate. They purposely let a bunch of idiots taking selfies in there and declared them to be "white supremacist terrorists" (important, take not), and that has given them the excuse to de-platform not only Trump but many right wingers, and has gotten a lot of right wing politicians apologising and cucking out.
But otherwise right wing groups get crushed. They don't get the same treatment as antifa do. If the right did that they'd be playing right into the hands of the elites, just as those who speak about civil war are too. They'd be labelled white supremacist terrorists in the media, and they'd come for your guns next, along with a lot more censoring and talk about the "problem of whiteness".
They're always 10 steps ahead of you.0|20|0 - No. The mainstream media will always side against conservatives no matter what tactics they use, so all they would be doing is alienating every one else too.
IF you are to do an "uprising", it should be done in the same way our forefathers did it. When the boston Tea party happened, the protestors threw out tea from england (england if memory serves, wouldn't allow colonists to grow their own and forced them to buy the states tea at inflated prices), they borded the ship without any violence, they broke the one lock on the cargo hold and then promptly replaced it as it was private property, they then threw out all the tea not keeping any of it for themselves as it was a demonstration and they were protesters not looters. They made sure no private property beyond that lock was damaged and again, they replaced it promptly. This showed that they were morally righteous in their cause, but also willing to fight back against tyranny without themselves becoming tyrants. This is the only way it can be done and be legitimate.
So what conservatives need to do is what their name implies, conserve the constitution, conserve our heritage and our culture and act in accordance to that, even if it means they violate unconstitutional laws, even if it means they risk repraisel for doing so.0|10|0 - Never.
Stooping to the level of those whose logic is already so skewed as to ignore and even to rationalize the clear domestic terrorism that occurred over this summer will solve nothing.
All it will do is demonize the conservatives who truly want what's best for everyone, not just their pockets.
Protesting can be effective when done right, but when protesting turns into rioting, looting, and destruction of private property is when we have a problem.
Not to mention that with the way the media already slanders the GOP and Republican party it will only make it worse for the majority.0|20|0 - No, they would use their platforms to call the actual patriots terrorist. They turned a blind eye to blm and antifa, but won't do the same for conservative (real) patriots. They had a meltdown over the anti-mask and lockdown protest which were the definition of peaceful, and even had the audacity to equate them with the thuggery in Portland, Chicago, New York, Kenosha, and throughout Minnesota. They control the media, I say the patriots should hack into the media and hijack the streams to show the Truth for once. The left controls a lot of the narrative, but fortunately not all of it. We are playing a different game, but we should definitely step up efforts.0|10|0
- Maybe lol we’d have everything we’ve ever wanted 😂. On a more serious note if we did they’d treat it the way they did at the capitol because the left is in line with the main stream media, the right is not. Therefore we are the enemy even if we are not.0|20|0
You are completely right. No matter what we do it will be painted as wrong, sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, Pelosiphobic, fascist, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, and racist
- It would be more effective if the 74 million who voted for Trump (note I did not say conservative, or Republican) all got together and they all dropped any use of Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Amazon and hit them in the ONLY thing they care about - their bank balance, for once it hit the financial markets that those four have each lost 74 million customers on the same day, it will have a crippling effect on the share prices of all four companies0|10|0
If all 74 million drop them all at once, cause the market to plunge, purchase the stock at record lows, vote out the current board members ands replace with neutral or conservative members
- I neither support nor condemn it. I don't want to see anyone physically harmed, but the leftist media and their brownshirts on the street have set the precedent that it should be encouraged and celebrated. So I'm not really bothered by if the other side starts doing the same. We didn't avoid WW3 during the cold war by dismantling all our nukes, and telling the commies now they have to disarm all theirs. We kept the peace through mutually assured destruction. Just saying.0|10|0
- Anonymous4 dbad idea. we've already seen them give the okay to use live ammo against these people, while they cried for the last year that it would be unethical, inhumane, and violations of human rights to use it against their Antifa and BLM rioters. Trump is right; there are better ways to fight this battle than with violence at this point.0|20|0
I hope that people do. Having your freedom of speech removed by tech monopolies is no better than having it removed by a government. The end result is the same type of information control and warfare
- Nah, as another said they don't have the media and big corpo backing them. What right leaning people need to do is start getting violent in mass numbers. Forming militias and taking territory and resources from the corrupt state and offing anyone who supports the Marxist state.0|00|0
- Mass protests are out best option, as long as they are peaceful. Violence should be for self defense only.0|10|0
- We should certainly *defend* ourselves and *respond* forcefully when the Demunist Commiecrats start it. Indeed, AntiFA has become their paramilitary wing.
But alas, we will always be painted as the bad guys if we start it. So we should not.0|10|0 - Should we no. Is that eventually going to be the only way they’ll listen to us yes0|10|0
- Are we really that kind of a low lifer? Conservatives are respectful people with pride. Never take the road of a Liberal, where has no manners and no respect for other people where has a different World view than them.0|10|0
- The difference is that Antifa has the mainstream media on their side and they know it.0|30|0
- Anonymous2 dNo, I want Antifa to fall squarely on Bozo Bidens shoulders and that pathetic governor of Oregon. He and the rest of the dems and libs encouraged those anti American commies, so I want to see how they handle it, IF they even do at all.0|10|0
- Anonymous4 dThe most effective tactic for conservatives would be to stop worshiping a demagogue gameshow host, abandon his lies and conspiracy theories, and start acting sane for a change.0|00|3
they never worshipped him. they just liked his policies. the fact you think they worshipped him is proof you watched media propaganda
you were wrong about the first part. you can't be right about the second
he doesn't lie very often (your wapo list is fake, it contains hyperbole and dishonest interpretations of his speech) and just in general your framing is wrong- Show All Show Less
You believe the media disinformation - truly sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMrEzqwffEs
- Conservatives have jobs they'd risk losing.0|20|0
Very good point. So many of the violent Antifa rioters were ex cons. They didn't have to worry about losing anything. I wondered if they were there because many anarchist groups are part of Antifa or if they were paid to destroy
- Absolutely not!0|10|0
Turns us into them, and they suck. Don't measure to their out of control emotional insanity, see how they use it against the other side in media? They ignore all of antifa and BLM and pander to them (for they care for their concerns... but "White supremacists" and trump followers are nuts... in their view.
For example, don't kill or beat cops to death, don't burn down and loot and riot. Be peaceful, be forceful. Should have marched right into the WHITE HOUSE. Done a sit in... stay there... no way Biden can move in... game over!:) once they get past SS and ominous dogs.
- Well to match Antifa they would need to wear masks0|10|0
Well if the Vice President-Elect is serious about the protests continuing after the election, then I guess we can be incited to protest/riot.
apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9579800331
hopefully, I don't get her meaning wrong.Here is a massive point of contention. She and many other democrats were calling the people who were looting, burning, attacking and burning protesters. They were being heralded as peaceful protesters. The AP is playing loose with their fact checking.
If the republicans called the capitol hill protesters who were involved in the violence peaceful protestors and then said that should continue after the inauguration then would AP have the same reply? The were talking about protestors not rioters
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I did the look ups on the Brett Kavanaugh protesters. Somehow they got into Senate offices also. Screamed and shouted in a Senator's face as he was going into an elevator. I know over a 100 arrests were made. Hopefully, they lost jobs also.
Now these violent extremists that came loaded with pipe bombs, already planned it all out. They didn't need President Trump to tell them for four years, they have been waiting for much longer. You can't just get Zip ties and IEDs made during a speech at Noon and have them ready in an hour.
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