The truth is that you really don't have to tell him anything. That is your right. If the car is under your name then they would have to get a warrant in order to force you to step out, and that could take all day at least. the bottom line is that if they're just pulling you over for a routine checkup then there's absolutely no reason for them to pull you over. Best not to say anything. Make sure that you bring out your cell phone and record the entire encounter from start to finish. Remember the only four words you have to say are "I don't answer questions". Be smart and don't volunteer any information, ever.
"IF you ARE legally armed, VOLUNTEER this information"I got pulled over once and had a gun stuffed between the front seats. I was out of state so they wanted me to follow them to the court and pay the fine on the spot, which I did. As we left the court one cop said he wanted to search the car for signs that it was stolen ( I had just bought the car. I had a signed title and bill of sale but hadn't transfered it yet.). When he said he was going to search the car, I told him about the gun.Everything was cool. They put the gun in the trunk. They told me that if I had not told them about the gun they would have arrested me for concealed weapon.
First of all you didn't have to follow them anywhere least of all to the courts. Second of all if you don't give them permission to search your vehicle then they have to get a warrant and in order to get a warrant they need to be looking for something specific. So in other words this whole mess was because you couldn't keep your mouth shut and simply just say four simple words "I don't answer questions." Fifth amendment people, look it up. there is nothing illegal about those circumstances and they took full advantage of you. You have the right to bear arms, the right to bear arms does not mean that you have to carry openly. If you're really that worried about it there is such a thing as a concealed weapons permit. You have the right to remain silent and I recommend that you use it. Always record your encounters with the police from start to finish because that will level the playing field. Otherwise you were at their mercy on whether or not they decide to release the videos from their body cams. Your car is your personal property and they cannot legally search it without your consent unless they have a warrant. Also, because your car is your personal property you have the right to stay in it even if they tell you to step out of the car. On top of all of that when they asked to see your license and registration you don't need to hand it to them. All you need to do is show it to them. 1 in of clearance is all you legally need to give them when you open your window.
Want to try it out? Let's do some roleplay. You be the cop and I'll be the guy you pull over. You're at the window and I'm already holding my cell phone and recording you. Go!
@JKingOff I had no reason to hide anything from them. I had no reason not to follow them to the court. I'm quite certain that it worked out better the way I did it than if I had acted like a dick and refused to cooperate. It escalates things for no reason.I've had many dealings with the cops, including a number of arrests. I make a judgment call when to keep my mouth shut. If they ask "Who did you buy it from?" they aren't getting shit.Those cops were going to search my car whether I gave them permission or not. They would have found the gun whether I gave them permission or not. If they found it, I would have been in jail instead of on my way home. If the court later let me off the hook because the cops didn't have probably cause, it doesn't change the fact that I spent some time in jail awaiting trial instead of going home.When you cooperate and chit chat with the cop, you are playing the odds. You could potentially say something that's used against you. But unless you say something REALLY stupid, the odds are that you're better off being the guy that helps lower the tension, and has a friendly chit chat. Because the next guy the cops meets might be a total ass. I'm going to treat the cop like a human, not like he's the enemy, and the only thing I can give him is name rank and serial number.
It's not about having a reason to hide anything. It's about exercising your rights. And it's about them having to have a reason to pull you over in the first place. If they don't then it's just harassment.
@JKingOff If they see something in plain sight, smell something suspicious, or find you to be under the influence, they can detain you and search your vehicle. Depends on what state of course
Look the law is the law. If the car is in your possession and registered under your name if they don't have your permission they cannot enter or search it without a search warrant. If there is a real reason for them to be pulling you over and talking to you they will invest the time and energy to get the warrant. If they're just pulling you over to rub some dirt on you we'll bust your chops then they're not going to bother spending most of the day trying to get a warrant to harass you. Once again know you're rights. "I do not answer questions" that's all you got to say. Don't incriminate yourself. Record the entire encounter and make sure that they do their job properly. Otherwise it's their word against yours with no proof. The last person you should trust to give you real information on how law enforcement officers operate is a current or former law enforcement officer. do the research for yourself and don't take other people's words for it. It's literally in the Constitution. You can look it up. Hell you can even YouTube it. YouTube "How to get rid of police with four easy words". Seriously guys it's not a brain buster. You can do it!
@JKingOff The law can be very flexible at times. Lawyers wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t. Law enforcement tactics are typically discretion based. There’s tools cops can use to get what they want out of a situation. For example, look into casual encounter laws. Just thought I’d chime in. I worked as a former sheriffs deputy. Not trying to fight you, but rather bring you some insight.
Of course, and I completely agree with you. You have to account for the human element, and you have to understand that not everyone that wears a badge has the greater good at heart. There are those few people that are essentially wolves and sheep's clothing. I completely agree with you that not all law enforcement are enherently good or bad. The fact of the matter is that the laws are put into place to protect people in circumstances where you do get someone who doesn't uphold the integrity that they're badge would indicate. Stating that you don't answer questions is not the same as refusing to cooperate or being combative, or even having something to hide. It is you letting the other person know that you fully understand that you have the right to remain silent. it's that right that grants you the ability not to give them anything that they could use against you because anything you say regardless of the intentions behind it can and will be used against you in a court of law. As you stated before, the laws can be very flexible and so can the lawyers that enforce them along with the law enforcement officers. Always know you're right! Always record your encounters!!! It's that simple.
wow... good info...
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And you Lose. Everytime. Judge gunna side w a cop not you...999 times out of a 1000... It's not worlt fighting non criminal stuff in court.
This gives me a thumbs up to go wild and be polite.
Ya cops who don' slow on to court... that's a good defense strategy.. just hope the cop don't show up. DUMBASS cops are always gonna show up to court. They don't not show up like ever In Wisconsin. It's sucks here ...
@John_GaltI have two friends who are cops and they both said they teach in the academy to decide if they are writing the ticket before first contact. This is to minimize bias.
That so not the same thing.. not even close
LOL I do know a lady who tried that and she got a ticket right off. It's like the policeman probably thought, "OK this is my 7th one today trying to play dumb"...
i think just saying no (even though you know why) is better, cause i think they can construe a case of "intentional" offense, which makes a regular offense slightly worse.
generally it's best to speak as little as possible while being as cooperative as possible.