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By "support", I mean, like, are you okay with our existence, do you believe that we're the gender we say we are etc.
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1026I am required to tolerate their choice, but I am not required to approve of it.
This is the essence of the problem with the LGBTQ or whatever it is called now movement. Tolerance is not enough for them. They demand APPROVAL. They have no right to approval and THAT is the reason so many people hate them. They try to force people to approve through intimidation, name calling and disgusting public displays of sexuality intended to offend people who do not approve of their activities. Who would not dislike people like that?
I support tolerance. I DO NOT support forced approval. People have a right not to approve.
I certainly do not believe that a transgender person is the gender they say they are. If you can define words to mean anything you want them to mean, language has no meaning. And I will not support the destruction of the language by going along with that agenda.
The science dictates that there are only two genders, male and female and that all human beings will remain the gender they were born for their entire lives. Surgically altering your genitalia, or fantasizing that you are the opposite gender does not alter the DNA in every cell in your body that carries the record of the gender you were born.
I am tolerant of transgenderism. But I will not be forced to accept a fantasy and make believe it is reality. And any attempt to coerce me to do so will be met with pushback. If you don't respect me and my views, don't expect me to respect you and yours.
Aaw, poor bubu who is forced to act like a decent human being 😔😔😔😔
Just letting them live their lives and treating them kindly yes.
Certain things no.
If you are a male high school student as a freshman (born a boy) who decides to transition to female... you should never be allowed to compete on the girl's team against other girls.
In the same situation you shouldn't be allowed to go shower with the girls.
If you want to live your life as the other sex that is fine but there are some limits to where and how that can be lived out or expressed. Having a trans man to woman kicking the crap out of girls on the wrestling team or dominating them in track and field and showering nude with them in the school locker would be an area in which certain lines would have to be drawn.
Outside of some specific situations I support them.
That being said, I support people's right to express themselves in whatever way they want, even if sometimes find it off-putting.
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2nd) Support as in support that they went through hormone therapy, surgery, breast reduction, genitalia change, and etc? I don’t support this, but I support the first one.
Hormone replacement therapy makes it perfectly fair.
It really doesn't, like lowering your testosterone doesn't charge the affects of male puberty. Aka larger and denser bones, height, a large heart and lungs, larger hips and etc.
All of these little things make the difference at the highest level. Why do you think that trans female atheist are breaking womens worlds records and coming first in nearly all events constantly?
It's not bc there all genius, it's that they have a biological advantage thanks to male puberty. If you stop male puberty with hormones blockers (which i don't agree with since 11 year olds are idoits) then it would be more even.
So what about cisgender women with these traits? Like Caster Semenya? Should we exclude them as well or is that a different story?
And when did you know your gender?
Well cisgender women wouldn't have these traits or at least not as many..
While yes there is an argument that cisgender women who have traits suited to different sports should also not compete bc it's an unfair advantage.
However no we shouldn't exclude them since she still had the same biology as other women. Like if she's so well suited why doesn't she compete in the mens middle distance?
Bc men have so many more advantages over her that she wouldn't stand a chance.
Like i said a women who is well suited to a sport has one or two advantages over her completion that makes her better, a trans women has those same advantages and much more.
Also i was born a guy and am happy with that, while i still support trans rights and one of my best friends is trans i still believe there needs to be a different solution to this rather than ruining womens sport bc the only people who will win would be trans women.
Why is the pronoun thing silly? Anyone has pronouns, even cis people
Because I don't tell people what pronouns they have to call me. If you see yourself as something different, that's one thing. But it's an entirely different thing to ask other people to see you different.
Would you correct others when they call you she
I would, because I do have both an x and y chromosome. I am objectively a male. It is not a feeling.
Most women also have an X and a Y chromosome.
No, female chromosomes are xx and male are xy.
Damn autocorrect. I mean trans women, lol
Yes. They are men. They see themselves as women, but they objectively are not. I support their right to dress how they please, undergo surgery if they please, call themselves what they please, and generally do as they please, but that in no way effects me. Asking me to change my pronouns because they see themselves as something that they are not does effect me, so that I do not support.
What the heck does "judge you based on your sex" mean
It is their own business to live the life they want.
Why would I ever have a problem with that?
There are people who hate us for existing.
I don't think people hate trans people.
I think they can't comprehend the concept.
I myself believe body dysphoria is a psychological issue similar to anorexia/bulimia. They both have to do with not accepting one's body as it is.
You *can* help it. Being self-aware is the first step to getting better!
I am self aware, actually i am over aware.
I believe that the first thing to do to get rid of transphobia is to educate yourself on trans people. And use sources by trans people for that
Why would i when i already know what they are?
I mean more like educate yourself on transphobia
Like educate yourself on the challenges we go through etc.
Phobias are natural just like someone's sexuality : )
You can't tell a claustrophobic person to just fit in some small dark area he can't cuz he is naturally claustrophobic.
I don't hate anyone it's just I don't feel comfortable among them
Ooooh. Sorry, I kinda misunderstood. When people say they're transphobic, they usually mean that they hate us and discriminate against us. Phobia has two meanings.
If you're actually afraid, exposure can help. But make sure to learn how to handle fear before you expose yourself
Yeah ig, society developed so fast that we never actually got any time to adjust to anything
Trans people have existed for millennia, people just decided to hate us at some fucked up point in history
I remember it being illegal and treated as some sort of disease
Yup. And people still murder us over it in 2021
Uhh? Haven't heard about that
There's a list of people who were killed for being transgender. You should look it up. I can't post it yet because I'm only XPer level 1
Oh alright
We remember them on Nov 20th every year. That's the Transgender Day of Remembrance (TDOR).
There's also a website that monitors trans murders worldwide. It's called TDOR[dot]info
They're kind of like furries in my mind.
You do you.
Just don't use it to cheat at competitive sports.
And you are not mentally ill? Because you are. It's even worse because you dont know it.
If they have work or money, I'm even more okay with them.
So yoh talk to god and he it she answers you? Continue to be man's slave.
Like, are you okay with our existence, do you believe that we're the gender we say we are etc.
You're allowed to live. I don't think encouraging the delusion that you're a different sex is good for your mental health in the long run. I don't believe I should have to entertain your opinions of what sex you are. You're always going to be what your chromosomes are at birth, regardless of the amount of hormones and surgeries you get.
Me too
Cool 😃
I'm a trans guy 😊
Which one are you MTF or FTM?
Trans guy is when you were assigned female at birth, but you're a man on the inside. I much prefer that over FTM because I've always been male. People just thought I was female because of my genitals
What determines whether you are biologically female or male ARE your genitals, hormones and all of that stuff that is sex-specific. You can't claim you were male at birth if you were born with female genitals. Why did you decide to become a man anyways?
Why shouldn't you
I only support transgender people who dont make it their sole identity, people whose entire identity are based around being transgender are pretty cringe.
I dont think its natural really either unless you're born with both genitals
That's intersex, which is completely different
Ok but the point stands their body has both which means they can choose which unfortunately you cannot if you're born with one
1. Intersex people are often forced into one gender long before they can tell others what gender they are.
2. Gender is different from genitals.
3. Trans people don't choose to be trans.
1. True doctors usually do this at birth, they probably never even realise it as they grow up
2. Ok?
3. That is true.. there are many things mentally about people that they dont choose. :)
C'mon, don't be a jerk.