Very true I tend to be more libertarian leaning in the United States which means I vote conservativeBecause the Libertarian party is not a good party nor will it win. I came to agree with more of the Edmund Burke let people live idea where people will just do what they want to do regardless if government tells them not to or not and it shouldn’t be up to government to hinder them doing what they want to do unless it’s rape murder or theft. I support the free market And I don’t support government control over the free market which is what it seems the liberals in the United States want to do more than they actually want to make United States into a communist or socialist government rather than a free market classical liberal idea of how government should be ran
Just to be clear, Burke was no libertarian. To repeat that quote from him, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do as they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations."Buke said of Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" that is was the greatest work of ECONOMIC philosophy ever written. The modifier matters. Burke drew sharp lines in the economic sphere. The libertarian defines ANY exercise of liberty as by definition good. Burke - and classical conservatives generally - did not and do not.The free market in telephones is fine. The free market in abortions or slaves or... the list goes on is not thereby made virtuous by being a free market. Burke argued that certain moral considerations must come before freedom and he saw freedom as a means to an end and NOT, as the libertarians do, as an end in itself.Burke was not opposed to free market economics, but he saw its value as utilitarian and prudent, not inherently virtuous and as a good in and of itself.
Yea pretty much, Im count myself as more libertarian unfortunately the libertarian party is kind of a joke, like why have a fat naked guy dance at your convention no one wants to see that. So I vote Republican because I tend to agree with them more, like the abortion thing I’m pro life, and yes we tend to be more extreme in our views, especially when it comes to the role of government, I tend to think the only role of the federal government is to protect our boarders from invasion and keep basic laws like don’t murder steel that kinda of stuff, My tax plan would be only a sales luxury and sin tax. No property or income tax on the federal level. States should have more power then the federal government when it comes to there local population
Yeah, I agree. The LP is a joke. Most libertarians seem to think so. The only ones who like it seem to be the "beltway" type. I'm even more extreme than you though lol. I believe there is no role of government and there should be zero taxes. I'm an anarcho-capitalist.
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Conservatives: Tend to have more traditional values, like no sex outside marriage, or men can’t be women or low taxes and smaller government they tend to be more religious but not always the case, they tend to support the military and banning the use of drugs.Liberals: Tend to be more on a Social side of things they claim they are open minded but in my option goes to far like men can be women or men and women are the same, They also tend to support gay marriage legal weed climate change, Independent tend to not fit the main political parties they agree with something the Democrats agree on and republicans but disagree with other issues, they can also be more left or right leaning, like Bernie Sanders runs as an independent in Vermont but a democratic outside Vermont There also leftist a which pretty much hates the country they don’t like free speech they want to shut down information that they don’t agree with and call it disinformation they also tend to be more authoritarian and this is the direction where I think the Democrat party is going. (These guys tend to get lumped in with Liberals think BLM and Antifa)Then you have the old rate which is like leftist except they’re actually racist pieces of shit who believe if your not white your inferior. (These guys time to get lumped in with conservatives) Then you have libertarians again times to get ranked and more with conservatives they tend to be more fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Now of course you can I have a mix of beliefs concerning these issues with the left like AOC and the alt right like David duke you can’t but the rest of the views can be mix. Now since we live in a binary political system you’re either voting Democrat or Republican if we had my parties I’m sure you could see a progressive and Libertarian party form that are pretty strong
I think it is only certain people are binary. Of course last election I voted for Biden, but after that, I voted for a mix of candidates. Especially when it came to local elections. I voted for a Republican District Attorney. I voted Green party for State rep. I voted for judges that were Republican or Libertarian.In other words, I voted for folks I had respect for or agreed with. Why on earth anyone would vote straight party is beyond me. Conservatives actually don't get into people's personal lives. Worrying about what people do in terms of sex, etc. isn't Conservative. Conservatives see no place for government intervention when it comes to that. So in other words, he/she may frown upon transgenders or whatever. That isn't' the point. The point is a Conservative would not support government intervention beyond guaranteeing the basic rights and freedoms we all have. That's why they don't support AA or similar programs. But in this weird age. . . you have folks who think they are Conservative and the attempt to meddle with a community's attempts to seek redress on its own. Real Conservatives have always supported empowering communities to resolve their own issues. If transgenders got together and formed a community where they could ensure employment, prosperity, etc. for them and theirs, that is something traditional Conservatives love.Because it is done without government intervention.What you engage in isn't Conservatism. It is totalitarianism.Conservatism is something anyone of any ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, etc. could understand and support.
please explain to me how Joe Biden is not racist? because I'm pretty sure you're referring to trump beyond that you would be independent
I feel it I’m pretty libertarian but we get lumped in with conservatives
I think for some independent I think the size changes now using my mom as an example she voted for Bushes she voted for Bill Clinton voted against Reagan voted for Carter both times and I think she voted against LBJ during her first vote, she voted Trump 2016 since she didn’t like Hillary and she didn’t vote for either joe Biden or trump in 2020 she picked 3rd party, I think she is going to continue to do that vote third-party I mean because she’s basically doesn’t like either side at this point, Honestly if this was the 90s I would probably be voting Democrat I like bush as a kid, I wanted obama to win in 08 and voted for him in japan in 2012, I didn’t like Hillary in 2016 want thought it would be fun to have Trump since I began paying attention after 2016 I found myself agree more with the Libertarian party because it seems like it’s a mix between conservatives with a free market aspect and Democrats as far as being social aspect, But that’s just me, Right now I’m on the Republican side because i don’t like the socialism being pushed by the left right now, or the huge taxes they want to implement, Also I don’t have big government control there 3,000 miles away, why should they have more power than the state government at that distance
Libertarian lol same here even though we get lumped in with conservatives
Better be careful you’ll be kicked out of the party.
The question is- which one?
Have fun in China lol