I definitely wouldn’t vote for him even if I was dead
The only dead people that were found to have voted in this last election, were a couple of Republicans. For real. They did not find any Democrat voted cast by dead persons. Of course, someone cast the vote in the dead person's name.
They also didn't call it that when the Left invaded and occupied the Wisconsin State Capitol for weeks in 2011 or when the Secret Service was attacked last summer by BLM thugs, wounding over 50 officers.
You are leaving out that Trump and Giuliani incited the insurrection in Washington. Not major political figures that were Democrats encourage looting or an insurrection. In fact, they spoke out strongly about the destruction of property and harming people was wrong. Biden was very clear about calling riots wrong and to stop. When Trump's people rioted and looted, and deliberately stopped the peaceful transfer of power, Trump specifically said he loved them and appreciated the insurrectionists.
@kkirk4442 yeah right Biden didn't say a thing
Well, as long as you cling to the false claim that they incited the riots, you’ll keep showing a fundamental misunderstanding and keep defying common sense. Common sense tells us if you were inviting a riot, why did only a tiny minority (maybe 1% or less) of the attendees of his rally in DC that day take part (and we know they were incited by those on site to enter the Capitol, which other rally attendees actively discouraged them from entering the Capitol). Why would you invite a riot at a building you’d expected to be heavily protected? Makes no sense. Nor do any other of the Democrats‘ lies. Do you really think that the Wisconsin Capitol occupation would have been permitted that long if Democratic politicians and the oligarchs that control them didn’t want it to happen? And we’ve had numerous high-ranking Democratic politicians cheer on Antifa/BLM riots and violence.
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That’s the most obvious propaganda I’ve ever read.Given what a traitorous and corrupt sellout Biden is, I guess it’s not surprising a European would be so eager to propagandize for that stooge.
@Avicenna of course
@Avicenna Ha! Prove it! Biden has been president for like what? 3 days? On what basis are you judging his performance aside from your baseless speculation? I personally give him the benefit of the doubt like its only rational to do. Since I can't know the results of his actions I can only judge him for how serious he appears to treat this situation and how many actions he has taken.Since he has made it such a high priority of his presidency and because we can't know the results of his actions until much later I am forced to accept that he is following a higher standard than Trump ever did. Of course if you are an expert in the topic (which you are not) and you looked into the specific changes which Biden has enacted (which you have not) you could then start to make an educated analysis on how well these changes will work but. Its worth noting however that these are also just speculations.So yeah. Nice job making yourself look like a total fool.
LOL, you get called out for your slobbering worship and now say it's "just giving him the benefit of the doubt". And then you speculate further about what I know or have looked into (something you couldn't possibly know). Biden's corruption is well-known (except in far left echo chambers). Read up on his dealings with an executive of MBNA Bank in the 1990s, Joel Hyansky, and his son's business dealings with China and Ukraine (especially see what his former business partner Tony Bobulinksi had to say) and his role in using the withholding of foreign aid to get a prosecutor fired who was planning to investigate the Ukrainian company whose board his son sat on. And so on. But I'm sure you'll remain deliberately obtuse. www.thenation.com/.../
@Avicenna I am not giving Biden the benefit of the doubt because I want to, I am forced to do it because of lack of data and evidence. It is part of being intellectually honest which I am sure is a novel concept for someone like you.I mean in all your insane ramblings on here you have yet to provide me a single reason why his actions as president on the topic of covid19 is bad. I think the thing that speaks the most of your insanity is how you fell back on corruption conspiracy theories regarding Bidens supposed connections with China and Ukraine when that is utterly irrelevant to this.You are completely devoid of knowledge and understanding on this topic so you are just spouting buzz words you heard from someone else. It reminds me of the whole "Orange man bad!".Want to prove that you are more than just a mindless shill? Show why Biden has done wrong on covid19 as president.
So to you, well-documented and eyewitness evidence are conspiracy theories. It goes to his character, and that is a large part of the standard to which we hold a President, something you are too arrogant to even notice. A reminder: the question the asker posed was: "Should we hold Biden to the same standard as the Left held Trump"? Even if you believe (as doesn't seem likely) that Biden has focused primarily on COVID, there is no evidence to suggest he has done anything better than Trump did or would do anything better, especially considering Trump's efforts in Operation Warp Speed to develop a vaccine. Then again, you're probably too clueless to understand that in a federal system of government, the President is not alone in dealing with a national crisis. Nice to see you using Soviet tactics- people who disagreed with the Communist Party there were declared "insane". Judging from your childish reaction here as well as your propagandizing, I'd say it's you who could benefit from a visit to a psychologist. As if you're some kind of expert or have some monopoly on the truth when it comes to current events. I didn't state Biden had done anything wrong regarding COVID, just that your worshipful tone was propaganda. What specifically is he doing that Trump didn't to save lives? How about YOU tell us that first.
@Avicenna You can claim there is evidence and eyewitnesses until you are blue in the face but none of them has been confirmed even during official investigations headed by the GOP. Also you do not hold presidents on their character, there are plenty of presidents and leaders with terrible characters and personalities that make great leaders. You hold them on their achievements and work. You know, the shit that actually matters and makes a difference.As for holding Biden to a higher standard than Trump? Well that is easy, he has objectively been more productive than Trump in these 3 days and like you say, we have no evidence that what he has done will help but we also have no evidence that it has not so we can only judge it on the quantity of work.As for operation "warp speed" it has been an unmitigated disaster. First of all you did not support the vaccines that actually has come out, secondly you failed to procure and distribute them and lastly at the rate you vaccinated people it would literally take decades to stop covid19.This is why I say you are insane, because everything you say is debased from truth. You are living in an alternative world with alternative facts. You are a prime example of the dunning kruger effect where you are too stupid to realize how stupid you are.
The reason why you think Biden is “productive” is because you don’t know what’s good for you
@Sozerus, Im not going to waste my time schooling some propagandist. Fix your own country, „The Rape Capital of the World“ before you propagandize about mine. Go move to Rinkeby while you’re at it.
@ninaneedshelp Well then, since you dare to step up you should put your proof where your words is. What proof do you have that the actions that Biden has done in his 3 days a president would be below the standard "set" by Trump?
He resigned the Paris agreement which would make the Chinese richer and Americans poorer not to mention it isn’t sustainable and they’d end up having to use natural resources to be able to use green energy which would in turn make the earth uninhabitable
@ninaneedshelp Do you have any idea what the Paris accord is? It means nothing, like literally nothing. Its like countries pinkie promising to do better with the environment but you can literally just ignore it afterwards without consequences.
So he’s a liar and a fraud for signing it then basically that’s what you just implied
Ha! You think I expect USA to care about the environment? Good joke. So yeah, USA is a disgusting den of villainy and corruption but that is not evidence against Bidens work against covid19. I am still waiting for you to provide evidence.
Sizers, you must have heard what your deity Biden said about the trajectory of COVID. He said he had a plan, but he lied, to your applause, and You’re still propagandizing for him. Plus, there’s a Reuters article out that blames career bureaucrats in the CDC for their poor performance in the battle against COVID. Your house of cards propaganda is falling apart.
@Avicenna Considering how many decisions and changes he has made in only 3 days he did have a plan. This is just getting more and more pathetic the longer you talk.
Oh, sure, he had a "plan"- it was to violate his own order to wear masks in federal buildings. But to a pathetic leftist European, that probably does sound like action. www.reuters.com/.../special-report-how-u-s-cdc-missed-chances-to-spot-covids-silent-spread-idUSKBN29R1E7Maybe you should trying fixing your own country, first, Soteris, especially those speech laws.
@Avicenna So did he or did he not have a plan?
He claimed he had one. Now maybe you can tell me what it is. Then we can evaluate it. Now, I don't usually take a claim made during an election campaign totally seriously, but if he has one, surely you would be able to tell us what it is, right?
@Avicenna I can just quote you his manifesto. Do you admit that he could not have accomplished nearly as many changes and decisions as he has without a plan?
That's not necessarily true, because that's ultimately about what was accomplished and how. Now, I certainly don't think his performance can be judged at this point: however, we can certainly have an opinion about his plan. So what is it?
@Avicenna Joe Biden signed 30 executive orders in the first 3 days. Do you think he just doodled on those? Grow up and admit you are wrong. Say what you want about Biden but its pretty fucking clear he at least has a plan of action.
Then you should be able to tell me exactly what it is. You mentioned a plan for COVID, and obviously not all of those executive orders dealt with COVID. Furthermore, executive orders aren't plans.Don't conflate everything he's done (much of which was simply reversing Trump's executive orders) with "having a plan for COVID'. If you can't detail what it is, then simply admit you don't know or care what he does, you just trust it is against the interests of the people of the US since Biden is a corrupt traitor. If someone who hates the US as much you do approves of a US politician, that person is obviously a traitor. You've got your chance to produce his plan (s) in detail.
@Avicenna I am just stating the obvious that you dont simply pull 30 executive orders out of your ass in 3 days. He had those executive orders pre-planned and ready to go long before he became president most likely because they were part of a plan. After all you seam to think a plan is simply piece of paper but forgetting it outlines courses of action.. such as executive orders.. which would allow him to use his time efficiently. I can read his manifesto which talks briefly about what he wants to do which includes covid19 but the actual plan is undoubtedly much longer than that and more detailed. Since I can't read his personal notes on this I can't judge its success. Since I dont know what the effects will be I can't judge the results yet. What I can judge is if Biden has a plan and if that plan involves enacting imminent change which this crisis demands and 30 executive orders in a day is far and beyond what I would expect from a lazy incompetent bum such as Donald TrumpSo yes. With the limited information we have of ONLY 3 DAYS I can comfortably say Biden is doing well. Maybe that will change in the future but you with all your bullshit you have failed to disprove this simple fact that Biden is doing SOMETHING when SOMETHING has to be done.
LOL, you must never have taken a logic class. Then again, propagandists are never given one. Well, just because someone issues a flurry of executive orders, many of which merely undid the predecessor's doesn't mean they have a GOOD plan or that they're competent. But a brick wall is more logical and listens better than you do. Thanks for confirming he doesn't have a plan other than merely undoing what Trump did. I have to laugh at your plaint that people in the US don't care about the environment. Your overlords in Mainland China pollute more than the US and EU do PUT TOGETHER. But we all know it's not concern about the environment- it's about causing the US economic pain (some of your countrymen admitted this back in the 1990s) and some other nasty things. But continue your worship of Corrupt Joe Biden as you take your propaganda lessons.
His plane for Covid is to vaccinate 100 million people in 100 days but if you do a bid of searching you’d find the rate Trump had in is last days was about 1 million per day which is more 1 million per day or 100 million in 100 days?
@Avicenna Speaking of failing class, assuming something will fail in the absence of evidence is as illogical and unscientific as things gets. It also shows which one of us actually looked up all of those executive orders and which of us simply pull shit out of their ass to try win an internet argument. You literally know nothing about any of this.
@ninaneedshelp HAHAHA! Yeah, about that. USA was supposed to vaccinate 100 million people by the end of 2020 according to the plan set out by the Trump administration. This was later lowered to 25 million and then they only received 14 million doses (you need two to be vaccinated) and even then they only vaccinated 3 million people with the FIRST dose. The rest? Oh they were either never delivered or its in some random warehouse somewhere. Talk about the distribution of the vaccine being an unmitigated disaster thanks to Trump and his administration.
Thanks to Trump you actually have a vaccine to distribute
I know you don’t realize that you’re embarrassing yourself, but you clearly researched nothing, as your vague claims make clear. You say he has a plan but you apparently can’t articulate it, which gives no one confidence you actually know what you’re talking about, particularly since your political bias is so obvious and so immense. I think you should spend time on your country’s huge and growing integration problems, especially since those communities stemmst affected by COVID. Your country also has a huge problem with allowing people to discuss some political issues, and that as well as the high rape rate should concern you more than what goes on in some foreign land. That would be much more productive than being an anti-US propagandist.
@ninaneedshelp No you dont. Do you have ANY idea how much vaccine had to be destroyed because of Trump? His failure to deliver them rendered them expired. Thanks to Trump you imported less than you should have and you vaccinated even fewer. It is a disgraceful display of ineptitude.
@Avicenna AHAHAHAHA! Articulation? You sound like a raving madman both in rationale and in rhetoric. You bounce around irrelevant topics, bring up opinions in place of facts and uses insults instead of arguments. You are about as articulate as a kid and you have brought forward about as much evidence as can be expected of one.That is why I call you pathetic. Where as I have provided actual verifiable evidence and logic you have just been sitting here believing yourself to be correct. Like an idiot would do.
LOL, you have provided no evidence and definitely no logic, but if you want to continue to delude yourself, there's nothing anyone can do about it. You simply lack the maturity or intelligence to discuss adult topics, and it was an unforced error on your part to fail to back up your own claims. The game of accusing people who disagreed with the Communist Party line of being insane occurred all the time in the former Soviet Union (as was anti-US propaganda). I don't know why you have this seemingly pathological hatred of the US, but you should seek professional help for it.
@Avicenna There you go on another worthless tangent just like you did with my country and rape statistics or conspiracy theories or these baseless claims that I am being illogical and provide no facts which is in itself a baseless claim since you can't disprove anything I have said nor have you attempted even once.
You haven't actually said anything of any use to any discussion but I have responded to what you've posted. I clearly was willing to hear you out, but you're a propagandist and don't actually think. Again, your focus on the US and the hateful way you express yourself is not good for you, so I'm just trying to get you to focus on things more relevant to your life. That your country has problems is not a conspiracy theory, it's reality. It's 0400 in Sweden and you're online spewing nonsense. That's not good for you.
@Avicenna Here you go again deviating from the conversation. I have provided plenty of claims, I do not care if you think they are credible since that is not for you to decide, I presented them and you refused to even acknowledged their existence. With that you forfeit any logical right to claim I am providing false facts or faulty logic. You have no legs to stand on.You are simply another unhinged keyboard warrior on the internet at this point. Pathetic.
You need life advice, Soteris, and that's what you were given once you passed up your opportunity explain what Biden's alleged "plan" is. You're an angry young man with a hatred for my country that I find worrisome, also for your well-being.
@Avicenna Does it matter what his plan is if he has one? Neither of us are qualified to make an educated prediction and its too early to see any results. I have pointed towards Bidens manifesto but as I have stated this is entirely irrelevant. We can only ever determine if he has a plan or not which I have gotten even you to admit.Again, pathetic
No, it’s pathetic to trumpet a non-existent plan. He doesn’t seem to have one, and doesn’t seem to be fully aware of what he’s signed. He set record for executive orders in his first few days in office, which suggests a scattershot approach. Furthermore, it looks bad when someone as anti-US as you approves of a US President‘s Blitzkrieg of Executive orders. Ultimately, it’s how he governs,, but his executive orders, one of which greatly damaged relations with Canada, don’t bode well.
@Avicenna "Scattershot approach", "No plan", "Set record for executive orders in his first few days in office". These does not compute.
It’s about being consistent
No they treat Biden differently
It's not surprising that Biden is treated somewhat differently. He doesn't tell bald faced lies at every turn. Biden also hasn't incited an insurrection. And Biden hasn't help kill 400,000 Americans, because he wants to pretend covid is a hoax.
He tell people what they want to hear
Nope Trump didn’t cause it China did so we should blame China
So you think downplaying it and asking his supporters to drink bleach as a cure is the right way to deal with it? Righht 😒
You and the media took that statement way out of context
Did Joe Biden say that 😂
his press secretary did
😂 well can’t trust any of them
taking credit for trumps vaccine
Well to be fair the media blamed him even though he didn’t create the virus they blamed him for things he had nothing to do with
Fair point. He certainly wasn't the media's preferred candidate (unless you count Faux News).
Yeah lets just forget that Trump managed to get vaccines developed in a year, when you trump haters were denying that it was possible and some of the "experts" and fake news were saying it would take 5 years. Trump and the experts did not know how to handle this. They all came out with different opinions. What worked best was not shutting down the economies in some of the states which were republican run. Dumb and Dumber were the democrats who put infected old people in using homes so they could infect other old people who were the most vulnerable and kept the shut down going which we are finding out now, did to make a difference. Also, in the beginning Trump shut down travel from China, and this genius we have for president now put him down for it. Give me a break. If you voted for Biden you got what you deserved.
Let them come over the second amendment is in place for a reason although legally they would be breaking laws if they stepped foot where I live
blaming biden for not cleaning up trump's mess when he's been on the job for 2 is absurd.
been on the job for 2 days (typo)
I think we need to be consistent
left wing media is never fair
@007kingifrit you're not wrong.