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Another good post. I also believe they're jabbing the control group for 'ethical reasons', so it won't be possible to monitor comparable health impacts fully.
With regard to the covid passport, we're definitely in the calm before the storm.They're likely straining every sinew, in the background, to get this rolled out without glitch.
Dogs and kids are next aren't they?Nice new market opportunity.This sickness knows no bounds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CaxUocmeNA
I don't get why people aren't more incensed about small businesses being ruined, while huge corporations are making mega profits? Even those whose livelihoods are being pounded into dust don't even seem to give a shit? No one is getting angry.
@Levin I don't understand it either. The grand irony is the people who cry about how evil and bad the rich are, how terrible our wealth gap is, not only just watched but fully supported the largest transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class to the wealthy that has ever occured in history. Makes me think those people are either complete tools or they don't actually care about the things they say they do.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Do you understand you’re more likely to drown in a swimming pool than die from covid?
So in that case the promises of the vaccines haven't materialised and effectively the people have been misled.Human beings can't stand to be 2 metres apart for eternity. We're social creatures. There's literally no point in being alive in the context we're currently living. I don't get why people can't see this is an absolute and total assault on our humanity, these idiotic, ineffectual and dehumanising measures.As always people want to turn this into a good versus evil fight, and believe they're doing good. To paraphrase the famous quote, the most dangerous and enduring of all tyrannies are those where the perpetrators believe they are doing good.
My cousin died last year from covid just a few days after he turned 18. So excuse me for being scared that young people will also be affected.And plus, everyone knows that the vaccines aren’t 100% efficient, they were all in the news when they were first created so anyone being misled just hasn’t read/watched the news. They’re literally easing lockdown now so no point complaining, they just needed to close the travel borders last year, but I’m sure there will be plenty of stupid people who may bring back variants or spread covid because they think they’re immune
You can be scared. What you have to learn to do at your age is to evaluate risk. You already do it with many other things. You get in a car without any thought, you walk down stairs, you take showers, you swim in a pool. All of those things are deadlier to people your age than Covid. If your cousin was killed in a car crash, you wouldn’t seriously consider never getting in a car again.
Yes but I can do things to make sure I’m safe in a car like wearing a seatbelt and not drinking and driving. This is the same in situations where i have control, I won’t drown in a pool because I can swim etc. Don’t tell me what and what not to be afraid of when covid is a global pandemic and either killing or seriously impacting billions of people. vaccines aren’t 100% so there’s no point in risking it all
You are letting fear dominate your life irrationally.
I really doubt it. Wearing a mask and keeping socially distanced is hardly irrational or a problem for meI also think war and the end of the world is inevitable but you don’t see me go out and stock up on shit or just become a hoarder and shut in do you? I’m also scared of the various possibilities of vaccines and how it’ll risk my future but I’ll still take it because I don’t want to harm the people I know or strangers.People like you who claim your civil liberties are being invaded or whatever just want problems and something to complain about. Masks don’t do anything to you and neither does social distance
Masks don't do anything for me, either.
I must say I am a bit surprised that your cousin succumbed at such a young age. I was of the understanding that under 18 there was literally a handful of covid related deaths. And in the next age category, very few, too.
With regard to these mitigating measures, the science strongly suggests they don't work. They're more like a psychological comfort blanket for a deeply afeard population. It's important we don't conflate different issues. But I'm sorry to hear about what happened, anyway. In fact, the science around much of this pandemic is deeply shoddy, but that doesn't help people who have perished, I suppose.
@Levin yeah the circumstances were weird to say as he was in hospital for two weeks or so and had two surgeries and it seemed he was getting better. They said it was officially covid but it was back in may/June when hospitals weren’t 100% in dealing with covid so who knows. The whole dealing with the pandemic has been shoddy to be fair
And again, on the subject of conflating different issues. On one hand, we have the virus, which poses some risk.But it's my firm belief that masks are damaging to peoples' health, and have practically zero efficacy in real world conditions. Plus, it wouldn't surprise me if there are issues down the line with people breathing in these synthetic nano and microfibres that are just pouring out of these low grade and non-standardised masks.By the same token, we simply don't know what the long term effects with these vaccines will be. One should never make decisions in life on the basis of fear and desperation. We don't know what the long term consequences will be. And we've traded a bit of temporary cheap safety, for god knows what down the line.
So he got infected with covid while he was having surgery for something unrelated?
@Levin yeah, of course nothing like this has ever happened before so people are unsure and we don’t know the long term impactsI don’t know, I just know that he was had digestive problems or something and went to the hospital, had two surgeries within two weeks and died apparently from covid...
You use the word apparently?
Whatever you do, do what is right for you. Don't feel pressured.
But if they aren’t very vulnerable then they probably won’t end up in the ICU. Also there are three ways of achieving herd immunity: 1. Everyone gets the virus and recovers from it (or at least most recover), 2. Everyone gets vaccinated and 3. Some get vaccinated and some catch the virus. So it doesn’t have to be most.
@Catlover1999Yes the 3 ways you mentioned towards reaching herd immunity is right. I agree.
@Catlover1999Yes if they are not vulnerable they will recover with mild to even no symptoms despite being infection.True.
@Catlover1999Overall you are right.
If you had it bad that means that your immune system wasn't great.
My immune system was fine until I had it. That was the first time I ever got sick. Before that I had never caught the flu or even a cold. If I did it was literally just a stuffy nose for a day or two. But before Covid I had never gotten ill.
Especially living with a little brother who always caught a cold and got sick often, I never caught any of his colds either and we live in the same house.
From the virus? Because most doctors and nurses wouldn’t be in the vulnerable age group and if you mean preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed who are these people going into hospital with coronavirus when as I said all of the most vulnerable people have been jabbed with at least one dose.